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Thread started 10/01/08 12:12pm

sextonseven

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Where are all the female rappers?

From Entertainment Weekly:

BET AND VH1 PRESENT…AWARDS SHOWS WITHOUT WOMEN
Why the channels -- and fans -- aren't buying into the female rap perspective

By Margeaux Watson

Next month, VH1 and BET will air lavish awards shows celebrating hip-hop's finest, including Lil Wayne, Kanye West, and Jay-Z. But here's the catch: Neither the Hip-Hop Honors (airing Oct. 6) nor the BET Hip-Hop Awards (airing Oct. 23) nominated a single female rapper. Next year's Grammys may also follow suit, since the Recording Academy nixed its category for Best Female Rap Solo Performance in 2005. Why aren't hip-hop's leading ladies getting their props? ''Quite frankly, it's a numbers thing,'' says Stephen Hill, BET's executive VP of entertainment, music, and programming. ''There were fewer than five videos submitted for the awards by female artists this year. None of them made the cut.''

It wasn't always like this. From 1998 to 2003, female rappers such as Lauryn Hill, Eve, and Missy Elliott were among the genre's most bankable artists. But nearly all of their successors — including Lil Mama, Kid Sister, Ms Dynamite, and Jean Grae — have struggled to connect with listeners. And it's harder than ever to launch new talent. ''Hair and makeup is killing female hip-hop,'' says a source. ''The grooming cost to break a female rapper versus a male rapper is 10 times as much per appearance. That tends to have an adverse effect on a record company's willingness to even entertain a female rapper.''

Despite the dire times, MC Lyte is campaigning for the reinstatement of the ousted Grammy award. ''I think it destroys [hip-hop] culture to not have the perspective of a woman,'' she says. ''It's like our story is not necessary, our point of view isn't mandatory.'' The lack of awards attention is especially jarring considering that British soul/rap siren Estelle's Kanye West collaboration ''American Boy'' has notched more than 1 million digital sales, and London rapper M.I.A.'s ''Paper Planes'' boasts sales in excess of 1.3 million.

BET, meanwhile, is looking to the past to galvanize the present: The Hip-Hop Awards will include a tribute to female rappers that ''hopefully will remind people of how great it can be when women rock a mic,'' says BET's Hill. It certainly sounds great. But we'd prefer an acceptance speech.

http://www.ew.com/ew/arti...41,00.html
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Reply #1 posted 10/01/08 12:43pm

dancerella

in jail!!
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Reply #2 posted 10/01/08 12:48pm

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I've seen countless "where are they now" articles in regards to female rappers within the last year, you'd think their comeback trail would be imminent.

I'd say the current indistinguishable landscape of pop, hip-hop and r&b, songstresses have phased out the need for a sole female rapper since they're incorporating hip-hop production and their own rhymes into their music.

The notable female mc's are too busy outdoing their male counterparts with the trend of spending time behind bars.
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Reply #3 posted 10/01/08 12:55pm

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That's two votes for "in jail"!
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Reply #4 posted 10/01/08 3:38pm

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Two words: Amanda Diva.
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Reply #5 posted 10/01/08 4:26pm

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namepeace said:

Two words: Amanda Diva.


I'm listening to tracks on her MySpace page right now. She can rhyme.

But what do think of the problem addressed in the article about labels not wanting to sign and groom female rappers?
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Reply #6 posted 10/01/08 4:40pm

namepeace

sextonseven said:

namepeace said:

Two words: Amanda Diva.


I'm listening to tracks on her MySpace page right now. She can rhyme.

But what do think of the problem addressed in the article about labels not wanting to sign and groom female rappers?


I agree that it is a real problem. The decline of the MC as a pure lyricist can be measured against the decline in the number of female MC's in the game. The overwhelming misogyny of hip-hop (which has always had it, but now is infected with it from head to toe) has to be a factor.

thanks for posting the piece.
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Reply #7 posted 10/01/08 4:45pm

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namepeace said:

sextonseven said:



I'm listening to tracks on her MySpace page right now. She can rhyme.

But what do think of the problem addressed in the article about labels not wanting to sign and groom female rappers?


I agree that it is a real problem. The decline of the MC as a pure lyricist can be measured against the decline in the number of female MC's in the game. The overwhelming misogyny of hip-hop (which has always had it, but now is infected with it from head to toe) has to be a factor.

thanks for posting the piece.


That's a good point. There definitely is no balance in hip hop now like there used to be. And as others have pointed out, the few female MCs left seem like they are trying to compete with the brothas for arrests and jail time. disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 10/01/08 4:58pm

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with each other
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Reply #9 posted 10/01/08 5:54pm

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In jail or at Missy's house. (Writing songs.)
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/08 5:22am

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In jail or at Missy's house. (Writing songs.)

or doing other things with Missy....
Seriously, if it requires a lot of money for all the fake weave and make-up for the female rappers, it wouldn't be worth the time or money for a record label to invest in a female rapper. Plus, outside of Missy E, who is very talented, a lot of the females try to be too hard, like their male counterparts. Hardness on a female rapper does not look right, appears very butchy.
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Reply #11 posted 10/02/08 10:43am

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dancerella said:

in jail!!

Eve's not in jail....her album never dropped, though.
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Reply #12 posted 10/02/08 10:44am

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bboy87 said:

with each other

lol
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Reply #13 posted 10/02/08 5:28pm

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their is also a movement started by Ed Lover and Female Rapper Uneek of the Bounce Squad called F.E.M (Females Earning Money) features The Lady of Rage,Lady Luck,and Babs (of Making of the band) a all female Mixtape for F.E.M is in the works...with appearances by Rah-Digga,Amil,Hedonis Da Amazon,Mia X.,Diamond of Crime Mob,Bahamadia,Nikki D.,QueenPen, and several other ladies getting down on the project. I like the concept...Hopefully it flies!


I think Lil'Kim & Foxy pretty much fucked up Female rap...think about every commercially visable chick that came out after 96 on some glam,glitz,over sexed shit...and their material preety much sucks after B.I.G passed and Jay stopped fuckin with the other one.

However those seeking real talent will find it Jean Grae,Bahamadia,Medusa,Lin Que,Anomolies, and quite a few ladies still are puttin it down! their music is just a little harder to obtain because it's not at the commercial forefront.
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