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Thread started 09/28/08 5:13am

Jeffiner

Joe Satriani Flying in a blue dream

I just heard this, and I was em... a tad impressed! I've never really heard of him before boxed Don't laugh at me musician people! Or anyone else for that matter. lol But it's so BRILLIANT!
I love it...

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Reply #1 posted 09/28/08 5:24am

Jeffiner

Oooh, I rather like all this too... I was just thinking there's probably been a million threads on him or something, already, but I've just discovered him razz so I don't care ! wink

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Reply #2 posted 09/28/08 5:47am

Jeffiner

Yeah, it's good, I don't think it 'moves' me nearly as much as Prince though, or some other people's guitar playing!


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[Edited 9/28/08 5:48am]
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Reply #3 posted 09/28/08 5:54am

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Reply #4 posted 09/28/08 6:04am

Jeffiner

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Hmmm....nice, I think I'm kind of stuck on Flying in a Blue Dream though.. wink
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Reply #5 posted 09/28/08 9:29am

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one of my favorites in high school confused



i think this will always be my favorite Satch tune, though. i'm sure his guitar combusted in the studio by the end of this song. bunch of pull offs, hammer ons, taps, whammy bar, & harmonics, what's not to like? lol
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Reply #6 posted 09/28/08 9:39am

Jeffiner

eek WOW!
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/08 12:55am

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Joe is bangin'....No doubt about it. Very very good guitarist. Would like to see him get more props actually. Lot of musicians are hip to him and dig him though.
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Reply #8 posted 10/02/08 1:56am

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I didn't know you had taste Jeffiner.

headbang
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Reply #9 posted 10/02/08 2:21am

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Mystical Potatohead Groove Thing was always my favourite from Flying



Check out Circles



and Midnight is a favourite too. Both are from Surfing With The Alien

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Reply #10 posted 10/02/08 5:20am

Nightcrawler

My favourite is "Satch Boogie" (hadn´t heard it in over ten years, it still rocks):

http://www.youtube.com/wa...1MJAyRN3Lg

My favourite guitar player is Steve Vai though:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DZuNM3HmU4
[Edited 10/2/08 5:28am]
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #11 posted 10/02/08 7:33am

Jeffiner

G0d said:

I didn't know you had taste Jeffiner.

headbang


eek Well, you haven't been paying attention then ....! wink
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Reply #12 posted 10/04/08 9:50am

Jeffiner

My favourite guitar player is Steve Vai though:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DZuNM3HmU4
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Yeah, that's really impressive!
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Reply #13 posted 10/04/08 10:54am

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Nightcrawler said:

My favourite is "Satch Boogie" (hadn´t heard it in over ten years, it still rocks):

http://www.youtube.com/wa...1MJAyRN3Lg

My favourite guitar player is Steve Vai though:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DZuNM3HmU4
[Edited 10/2/08 5:28am]



Good stuff. I believe Vai took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani, right?
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Reply #14 posted 10/06/08 8:02am

Nightcrawler

uPtoWnNY said:

Nightcrawler said:

My favourite is "Satch Boogie" (hadn´t heard it in over ten years, it still rocks):

http://www.youtube.com/wa...1MJAyRN3Lg

My favourite guitar player is Steve Vai though:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...DZuNM3HmU4
[Edited 10/2/08 5:28am]



Good stuff. I believe Vai took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani, right?


Yes, that story is actually true! Vai also played in Frank Zappas band and learned a lot from him:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...W53fiwyskA
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/08 8:30am

iloveannie

Nightcrawler said:

uPtoWnNY said:




Good stuff. I believe Vai took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani, right?


Yes, that story is actually true! Vai also played in Frank Zappas band and learned a lot from him


Actually Satch plays down the lesson (not plural) that he gave Vai. They were both quite young and it consisted of nothing more than a few chords.

Vai was credited on Zappa's material as "stunt guitarist". Vai's Passion and Warfare has been heralded as the greatest guitar album until very recently when Paul Gilbert took the crown.

I was sat second row back earlier this year watching Satch, who had Gilbert as his support act. Awesome to see and hear the tunes I loved as a young 'shredder' played with such technique before me.

Vai was my favourite as a kid but now I favour Satch for his harmony and bluesy licks. He also knows how to communicate with his fans wink
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Reply #16 posted 10/06/08 11:15am

Nightcrawler

iloveannie said:

Nightcrawler said:



Yes, that story is actually true! Vai also played in Frank Zappas band and learned a lot from him


Actually Satch plays down the lesson (not plural) that he gave Vai. They were both quite young and it consisted of nothing more than a few chords.

Vai was credited on Zappa's material as "stunt guitarist". Vai's Passion and Warfare has been heralded as the greatest guitar album until very recently when Paul Gilbert took the crown.

I was sat second row back earlier this year watching Satch, who had Gilbert as his support act. Awesome to see and hear the tunes I loved as a young 'shredder' played with such technique before me.

Vai was my favourite as a kid but now I favour Satch for his harmony and bluesy licks. He also knows how to communicate with his fans wink


Which Paul Gilbert-album took the crown? I would like to hear it. Haven´t heard much of him snce his Mr. Big-days.
Unfortunately, Steve Vai hasn´t done a really great album since Passion & Warfare (though there were at least some good songs on most of his albums since). But he´s still great live!
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #17 posted 10/06/08 11:35am

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Nightcrawler said:

My favourite is "Satch Boogie" (hadn´t heard it in over ten years, it still rocks):


that's a fantastic song!
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Reply #18 posted 10/06/08 11:41am

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Nightcrawler said:

iloveannie said:



Actually Satch plays down the lesson (not plural) that he gave Vai. They were both quite young and it consisted of nothing more than a few chords.

Vai was credited on Zappa's material as "stunt guitarist". Vai's Passion and Warfare has been heralded as the greatest guitar album until very recently when Paul Gilbert took the crown.

I was sat second row back earlier this year watching Satch, who had Gilbert as his support act. Awesome to see and hear the tunes I loved as a young 'shredder' played with such technique before me.

Vai was my favourite as a kid but now I favour Satch for his harmony and bluesy licks. He also knows how to communicate with his fans wink


Which Paul Gilbert-album took the crown? I would like to hear it. Haven´t heard much of him snce his Mr. Big-days.
Unfortunately, Steve Vai hasn´t done a really great album since Passion & Warfare (though there were at least some good songs on most of his albums since). But he´s still great live!


That's what I'm wondering, too. No doubt whatever it is has some great playing on it, but Vai was appearing on Letterman at the time and normal people were talking about him. That's part of the album's legend, as with Blow by Blow or Surfing With the Alien. It's more than just the chops, it's the music. I haven't heard anything about a Paul Gilbert album, or seen him anywhere.

As for Vai, I think the first half of Fire Garden is something of a masterpiece, and you're right, every album has something, but the vocals are just not up to snuff. Even when he has a pro, as with Sex & Religion, it was god awful.
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Reply #19 posted 10/06/08 12:38pm

iloveannie

Silence Followed by a Deafening Roar. It's being put at the top by pretty much all the UK guitar mags (Guitarist, Total Guitar, Guitar and Bass etc).

Suite Modale is exceptional.
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Reply #21 posted 10/07/08 12:36am

Nightcrawler

iloveannie said:

Silence Followed by a Deafening Roar. It's being put at the top by pretty much all the UK guitar mags (Guitarist, Total Guitar, Guitar and Bass etc).

Suite Modale is exceptional.


Thanks, I´ll definitely check this out.
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #22 posted 10/07/08 10:04am

Trickology

One thing I will say about Satriani is, he financed Surfing with the alien on his own credit card. Think about that for a second. Everyone told him he couldn't make an album with Silver Surfer on the cover and have it be relevant.
Do you think Prince could have financed his own record? I dont think so.


Think about how that album changed his life and got him his deal with Epic/Sony. Also, think about the fact that over 2 decades later Vai and Satriani are still on the same label. Satriani has always been one of the most impressive musicians, not because he is such a amazing soloist, but his melodies have always been memorable.

I remember the first time I heard "Flying in a Blue Dream", the way it starts and the way it builds. It was ethereal. I think I remember reading that Joe did get that song from a dream. My main complaint with Satriani has been his blues shuffle and power ballad tendencies. I find that Satriani's best work is his oddity experimental harmonic innovations such as "Guitar Ep" which most of is compiled on the "Time Machine" set.

I put Satriani up there with Di Meola,Hendrix,Beck,Santana,Holdsworth,Joe Pass.
But another thing that makes Satriani unique is he knows the pantheon of music history and all the relevant stringed wonders/.

Matter of fact he could probably play note for note Metheny as much as he could Van Halen or AC/DC. And that's something alot of Satriani dismissers would have a hard time squaring. The fact that Satch isn't like Prince or Malmsteen. He really knows the school of music jedis and yodas. And the fact that he is patient with anyone who has relevant questions about music. So, it's not important whether someone likes Satriani or not, it's his passion and sincerity that remains in tact after 20 years.

I love the story how when Hendrix died Joe quit playing football in High School that day. Just threw his helmet off and said "I know what I must do" Unlike Prince he wasn't pampered. He financed his own damn records by gigging and guitar teaching. Anyone can say anything they want about a particular artist, but the fact that he had Giants in his teaching room: Charlie Hunter and Kirk Hammett and Vai. He wasn't some elitist either. Satriani was a big fan of just vibe. So whether that student was into punk,rock,folk,metal,thrash,funk, Satriani encouraged his students to play how they wanted to play and opened their minds on how to achieve it.


Satriani is a rarity because he can state melody,he can shred, and is an impeccable rhythm player. Very few can do all three well. The fact that Satriani understands how to sell instrumental music. The fact that he can also join groups like he has, shows that he has the ability to mesh with whoever has that passion as well. His harmonic ability is unlike any Guitar Icon out there.
There is no doubt about it that Joe is a visionary genius. And for you Jimi fans out there, If Hendrix was alive he probably would cover Satriani in a milisecond.

Did I mention his song titles are amazing?

I dont know how Joe balances it all. A family,touring,recording,writing,and yet still finds time to record with Sammy Hagar and Chad Smith. There is alot reasons why alot critics dislike Joe. It's because he succeeded being himself and yet he can be critical on himself and his work. At the same time he can give someone advice on how to be a better player.

I just want to say that "Not of this earth" is underrated as a project. The amount of time that he did that in? And the variety? How he ends the damn album? Joe has a visionary mind. Who would end a album with a song titled "headless horseman"? That was so unlike anything at the time it reminds me of how Vai came out a few years later with his solo projects. I think it's obvious that Vai took inspiration from how Joe got his solo deal and decided to be his own entity.

Driving At Night? Even with a drum machine Joe Satriani was killing it.

Crush of Love: (Wah Wah ballad)

http://www.imeem.com/sadi...h_of_love/


He's like Salvador Dali of guitar. You can't pin this guy down. He can play country,speed metal,blues,rock,r&B/soul,funk,avant garde,classical,latin,jazz,prog rock
That's always been a question for me. How in the hell can Joe go from Speed Metal to Fusion with a snap? He must have listened to so many damn guitarists at the same time while thinking up his own compositions. He must have soaked up alot being a guitar teacher seeing the latest styles as well.

http://www.imeem.com/amyr..._playlist/


Listen to Time Machine especially the e.p. where he plays all the instrument parts on the guitar. I've said it before and I will say it again. Joe is a renaissance visionary of the guitar. If Jimi heard "Mighty Turtle Head" he would do a double take what he does with the Jimi influence and how he flips it on it's head. And then how he goes into the bridge? Get the f out you can't mess with that.


How many people do you know who can go from that to Dreaming #11 to Banana Mango to Dweller on the Threshold to Baroque to Crazy to I am Become Death? And before I go think about this. Joe can play like this without a massive pedal board. He is able to get those harmonics with just his fingers,amp and a guitar. Satriani IS the Silver Surfer of the guitar. He surfs on sonic waves through the galaxy of aural chaos.
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Reply #23 posted 10/07/08 11:13am

Jeffiner

Trickology said:

One thing I will say about Satriani is, he financed Surfing with the alien on his own credit card. Think about that for a second. Everyone told him he couldn't make an album with Silver Surfer on the cover and have it be relevant.
Do you think Prince could have financed his own record? I dont think so.


Think about how that album changed his life and got him his deal with Epic/Sony. Also, think about the fact that over 2 decades later Vai and Satriani are still on the same label. Satriani has always been one of the most impressive musicians, not because he is such a amazing soloist, but his melodies have always been memorable.

I remember the first time I heard "Flying in a Blue Dream", the way it starts and the way it builds. It was ethereal. I think I remember reading that Joe did get that song from a dream. My main complaint with Satriani has been his blues shuffle and power ballad tendencies. I find that Satriani's best work is his oddity experimental harmonic innovations such as "Guitar Ep" which most of is compiled on the "Time Machine" set.

I put Satriani up there with Di Meola,Hendrix,Beck,Santana,Holdsworth,Joe Pass.
But another thing that makes Satriani unique is he knows the pantheon of music history and all the relevant stringed wonders/.

Matter of fact he could probably play note for note Metheny as much as he could Van Halen or AC/DC. And that's something alot of Satriani dismissers would have a hard time squaring. The fact that Satch isn't like Prince or Malmsteen. He really knows the school of music jedis and yodas. And the fact that he is patient with anyone who has relevant questions about music. So, it's not important whether someone likes Satriani or not, it's his passion and sincerity that remains in tact after 20 years.

I love the story how when Hendrix died Joe quit playing football in High School that day. Just threw his helmet off and said "I know what I must do" Unlike Prince he wasn't pampered. He financed his own damn records by gigging and guitar teaching. Anyone can say anything they want about a particular artist, but the fact that he had Giants in his teaching room: Charlie Hunter and Kirk Hammett and Vai. He wasn't some elitist either. Satriani was a big fan of just vibe. So whether that student was into punk,rock,folk,metal,thrash,funk, Satriani encouraged his students to play how they wanted to play and opened their minds on how to achieve it.


Satriani is a rarity because he can state melody,he can shred, and is an impeccable rhythm player. Very few can do all three well. The fact that Satriani understands how to sell instrumental music. The fact that he can also join groups like he has, shows that he has the ability to mesh with whoever has that passion as well. His harmonic ability is unlike any Guitar Icon out there.
There is no doubt about it that Joe is a visionary genius. And for you Jimi fans out there, If Hendrix was alive he probably would cover Satriani in a milisecond.

Did I mention his song titles are amazing?

I dont know how Joe balances it all. A family,touring,recording,writing,and yet still finds time to record with Sammy Hagar and Chad Smith. There is alot reasons why alot critics dislike Joe. It's because he succeeded being himself and yet he can be critical on himself and his work. At the same time he can give someone advice on how to be a better player.

I just want to say that "Not of this earth" is underrated as a project. The amount of time that he did that in? And the variety? How he ends the damn album? Joe has a visionary mind. Who would end a album with a song titled "headless horseman"? That was so unlike anything at the time it reminds me of how Vai came out a few years later with his solo projects. I think it's obvious that Vai took inspiration from how Joe got his solo deal and decided to be his own entity.

Driving At Night? Even with a drum machine Joe Satriani was killing it.

Crush of Love: (Wah Wah ballad)

http://www.imeem.com/sadi...h_of_love/


He's like Salvador Dali of guitar. You can't pin this guy down. He can play country,speed metal,blues,rock,r&B/soul,funk,avant garde,classical,latin,jazz,prog rock
That's always been a question for me. How in the hell can Joe go from Speed Metal to Fusion with a snap? He must have listened to so many damn guitarists at the same time while thinking up his own compositions. He must have soaked up alot being a guitar teacher seeing the latest styles as well.

http://www.imeem.com/amyr..._playlist/


Listen to Time Machine especially the e.p. where he plays all the instrument parts on the guitar. I've said it before and I will say it again. Joe is a renaissance visionary of the guitar. If Jimi heard "Mighty Turtle Head" he would do a double take what he does with the Jimi influence and how he flips it on it's head. And then how he goes into the bridge? Get the f out you can't mess with that.


How many people do you know who can go from that to Dreaming #11 to Banana Mango to Dweller on the Threshold to Baroque to Crazy to I am Become Death? And before I go think about this. Joe can play like this without a massive pedal board. He is able to get those harmonics with just his fingers,amp and a guitar. Satriani IS the Silver Surfer of the guitar. He surfs on sonic waves through the galaxy of aural chaos.


I LOVE the way you write, some really interesting info there, thank you! cool biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 10/08/08 12:56am

iloveannie

Jeffiner said:

I just heard this, and I was em... a tad impressed! I've never really heard of him before boxed Don't laugh at me musician people! Or anyone else for that matter. lol But it's so BRILLIANT!
I love it...


Jennifer, now do you understand why we guitarists don't agree that Prince is the most accomplished guitarist in the world? He's one of the best but he's no Joe that's for sure.

And for you other guys n gals how about Sonny Landreth? Let's face it though there are countless awesome guitar players nowadays. Too many to compare and too many to list!
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Reply #25 posted 10/08/08 1:36am

Jeffiner

iloveannie said:

Jeffiner said:

I just heard this, and I was em... a tad impressed! I've never really heard of him before boxed Don't laugh at me musician people! Or anyone else for that matter. lol But it's so BRILLIANT!
I love it...


Jennifer, now do you understand why we guitarists don't agree that Prince is the most accomplished guitarist in the world? He's one of the best but he's no Joe that's for sure.


And for you other guys n gals how about Sonny Landreth? Let's face it though there are countless awesome guitar players nowadays. Too many to compare and too many to list!


Hey, yes I do, I did understand it before, but as many people say, a lot of it is subjective. I love the way Prince plays because it 'moves' me, I think it's very emotional (to me), but I completely understand that there are many incredibly accomplished guitarists out there, like my new friend Joe biggrin
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