I don't see any comparisons between the osmonds and the jacksons-except they both had big ass families.

Yes, I love Debarge-and I agree that in the beginning they were stiff, but if you youtube el and chico, you can see that their performing has gotten better, esp el.

I read that the mom of the Debarges did not leave her husband, that he left her for another woman that he later had 3 kids by. Some of the Debarges acknowledge those kids and others of them don't. Chico considers them family.

daingermouz2020 said:

Hello dangermouse, that information you got is private, keep it that way,

I can't wait to see that TVONE show called UNSUNG about Debarge.

I swear that the first time I heard about them was a few years ago when I saw a documentary about janet jackson!

Here in Portugal, radios did not play 80's pop/funk.

Thank the lords of kobol for the org
[Edited 9/28/08 6:34am]

Also,before they crossed over to American pop radio with "Rythym of the Night", for all intents and purposes they really were an r&b group at the time, played only on r&b radio. Because I grew up in household that listened to r&b radio most days of the week, the Debarges were a daily part of my music listening experience as soon as hit I puberty taking me right into my mid-teens. Even if you would have been in the US at the time, you wouldn't have known much about them unless you kept your dial tuned to an r&b fm format. The States were so culturally segregated back then in terms of radio, there's NO way in hell that even my Polish best friend across the street or the Italian-Hungarian kids next door would have known who the Debarges were back then, either.

Vanity and a Debarge? Well, why not, seems she went for everything else. If she had gone for EL, she might have been his babymama.
And I seem to remember that Randy had legal trouble, but for the life of me, I can't remember what about.

I know I am late by a year, but I just finished reading that Vibe article on Debarge. I do not get how in the hell a family that talented and I think they were more talented than the Jacksons (Debarge to me were more musicians and the Jacksons entertainers) just threw themselves away on drugs. I mean every last one of them kids was doing drugs. That article raised a lot of questions:

1) I was a huge debarge fan when i was a little kid in the 80s. I never heard anything about El having 10 kids back then. No rumors, nothing. How in the hell did they cover that up? Plus he never struck me as a "family man" anyway.

2) Their mama seems real self promoting and stage momish-selling Chico's stuff on Ebay

3) I read in a previous post on here that El allegedly raped a girl in 86-anyone know if this is true? And someone else said something about him having a horrific divorce-anyone know about that? El always seemed really soft spoken and mild mannered. I can't imagine him being violent

4) Also, it's odd that they are pretty much forgotten today. Debarge was pretty huge, at least in rnb circles and they made some good music. I don't understand how they fell through the cracks like that.

5) Also, is it true that Berry Gordy took all their publishing royalties from them?

5)P org member JJHunsecker said he used to deal with the Debarges when he worked in the industry and they were all crazy. J, I wanna hear the dirt!
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Where did you read this? Janet may also have been jealous cause Vanity was flawless. Janet was a tubby little thing.

filmnoirdame said:

Long time ago, can't remember where. Vanity confronted her about the baby.

TheWifey said:

If the media can pin-point Joe Jackson's love-child & put her pix all over the media, I find it very diffficult to believe they haven't found Janet Jackson so-called child with Debarge yet, after 20 yrs of searching. Therefore I doubt there is a baby. I think it has become a myth. And if there were a baby I am sure Latoya would have opened her big-assed mouth by now!!

You saying James hit Janet?

TheWifey said:

If the media can pin-point Joe Jackson's love-child & put her pix all over the media, I find it very diffficult to believe they haven't found Janet Jackson so-called child with Debarge yet, after 20 yrs of searching. Therefore I doubt there is a baby. I think it has become a myth. And if there were a baby I am sure Latoya would have opened her big-assed mouth by now!!

You saying James hit Janet?

So Debarge had no impact on the larger world of pop culture in the 80s?