I see alot of people complain about rap and the things rap has created.You are gonna have to accept that the world is changing.I am sure your parents complained when you played that dirty prince song(if you had the guts to play it around them).Or hang up the picture of a man in makeup or lace.Talking like the TIME and so on.Rap is THIS generations rock revolution.Jazz is probably the closest thing to rap as far asa a whole new style with lingo to go with it.I know alot of you want the good ole days.But it's a new day step outside and enjoy or step aside and make a way for those who want to go.The intolerance of people amazes me.As long as i am not forced to do it,i don't care what others do.Whatever floats their boat,ticks their clock,lifts their balloon,etc.

Rap will be old one day.
And boring.
Or is it already getting boring now it's mainstream?
Wish rap would get REALISTIC.
Where are the De La Soul's and Tribes Caled Quests?

gooeythehamster said:

That's exactly what i am saying.Why does the previous generation complain about the next.Do we think we were perfect and that everyone should follow our footsteps.

gooeythehamster said:

you want realistic... SLIM SHADY!!!

00769BAD said:

:LOL:

Some white people are not willing to accept change. If rap had been started by white teenagers it would be totally different. Some white people only want us to entertain them with song and dance, or amaze them with our athletic abilities. Some white people do not see us as equals to them. Some white people will fight tooth and nail to stop change from happening. But let me quote an unknown black author "God is Change". And whether one believes in a "god" or not change is universal. So some white people need to get with the program and change too!
Or not, that's their choice.

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00769BAD said:

I am white. Dug Def Jam back in da day.
Was the whitey with the Def Jam coat.
I don't give a damn about colour.
Started singing Sly when some brothers shoved me around for being white at that PE gig. Oh well.
Slim Shady. I'ld rather DO him than listen to him, hehehe.

Rap was interesting at first, Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow etc. I think it peaked with RUN DMC, Beastie Boys and P.E. It's now become stale and boring IMO.

SexLovely's right, the amount of kids i see walking round with KORN, Limp Biscuit, Manson and Nirvana hooded-tops is incredible.White kids seem off rap now (compared to us in the 80's),apart from maybe the Eminem wannabes i sometimes see.

Thecherryloon said:

maybe i'm confused... i thought both korn and limp bizkit rapped... at least, the last time i checked it was still called rapping... not very good, but rapping nonetheless...

EllisDee said:

Britney sings, but that does not make her a singer.
Maybe a bad one.
Rap was a lifestyle before it became commercial. I miss that.

gooeythehamster said:

britney sings shittily... that makes her a shitty singer... fred durst raps shittily... he is a shitty rapper...

what i'm getting at is that you can't use white kids in limp bizkit hoodies as proof that white kids are moving away from rap...

that said... although i miss the glory days of rap, there is still plenty of good hip-hop music out there... jurassic 5, mos def, common, missy elliot, busta rhymes, xzibit, etc, etc...

gooeythehamster said:

It still is and has been for the past 400 years. This is the very point a lot of people are missing. These rappers are reliving their lives on recorded media. I don't like it and I don't allow my children to listen to it when they are around me, but it's a fact of life and complaining about it and its affects on society does nothing to change the facts and the state of minds of those individuals.

Unless people start changing it will continue to be in our faces in some form or another for the next 400 years.



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Hiphop is still alive and well... with people like The Roots, Common, Talib Kweli, HiTek, Dead Prez, Dilated Peoples... there's plenty of quality rap out there along the commercial top 20 shit. Just like all the other types of music. Plus we still have Public Enemy, De La Soul and other oldies still delivering the goods...

As a kid I grew up on rap music... now I'm older and I don't buy into the fashion, the commercialism, and "the hiphop lifestyle" but there are is a minority of artists putting out some great music.

ian said:

Exactly...seek and ye shall find.
ONE LOVE

ian said:

My exact thoughts!! Are you reading my mind??

SweeTea said:

This isn't always true though. There are some in the genre who compromise their true nature in order to be marketed and sold as the "thug" lifestyle, simply because a lot of that is what's being bought. Don't get snowed by the "we only rap about what we're living" bs, because for many it's just a marketing ploy. And with the way some of these rappers talk about women you'd think they didn't have a mother.

Supernova said:

Is what I meant. To me rap is graffity, break dance, hanging with them skaters etc.
It is not about being a thug or a gangsta. Is okay if you want to use rap as your vehicle, but that was not what it was all about when it started.
It was battling with words. Anyone popping them guns is afraid. And a sissy.
Any rapper with too much jewelry...uhm. Their own clothing lines...uhm. Half naked women in their clips...uhm. Oh well.
Let's just say I like Missy lots these days for not taking it too seriously and being tongue in cheek.

gooeythehamster said:

Actually Hip Hop is about your experience and your world so it's Run DMC, it's LL Cool J, it's NWA, it's Kid n Play, it's Tupac and Biggie, it's Common and the Roots, it's P. Diddy

Like any genre of music, you chose what you like and discard the rest but it doesn't make the others invalid and not true to Hip Hop.

But note: Marshall M...Hip Hop Vanilla Ice...Commericalism... When you see too many Vanilla Ice's...run

In the 80s,I loved rap.The music was simply better back then.We had Run-DMC,Whodini,Salt N Pepa,and other great rap artists doing their thing.But,now I think most of rap music is CRAP.Thanks to idiots like Puff Daddy,the rap movement is now filled with alot of crap music that has nothing to do with art.When I hear a song like Ludicrous' "Move Bitch!",it just makes my blood boil.This is the stuff that our young kids are listening to.

Furthermore,I miss *REAL* bands and *REAL* music,like the stuff I heard in the 70s.Nothing can replace real instruments.Most of today's rap music consists of ego,heavy bass,tons of samples,and alot of cussing.

Maybe I'm just getting old (I'm 33) but I just can't relate to that kinda nonsense.

David...It think it's old age son. Sorry to tell ya...

DavidEye said:

Rhondab said:

Yeah,I figured that...lol...

rap is not music. its spoken poetry, it sucks. that is not music that is played when someone is rapping. its noise it sucks. no notes, no changes, or bridges, just a repeated sound over and over, no creativity just noise, it sucks wher did the music go. read that topic in general discussion. rappers are not musicians please stop calling them that. they a characters speaking on dumn ass topics.because most of them are not cultivated enough 2 write on any other subject. all blacks dont like rap, im proof of that it sucks.

I appreciate rap as an art form,but I just don't see it evolving in any way.Lauryn Hill was probably one of the last artists who could take rap to new heights but even SHE seems to have grown bored with it.

Rap got too Corperate&is a Brand name nowadays.I don't have a Problem with the Content Per Se because everybody in Music once you find out does alot of Acting in the studio taking on another Persona.it's just that with Rap folks really take some of that Acting as too who that person is in Real Life.2Pac was a Great example.but if you ever read on Him there was so much more too Him.but like with any Business folks where many Different Hats&Faces but it's a whole different vibe when the camera isn't on.so all things going on within Rap have there place&Reasoning IMHO.

joelmarable said:

Blues: the devil's music.

1940s bebop: see quote above.

1950s rock and roll: see quote above.

1960s funk: see quote above.

1970s hip hop: see quote above.

Supernova said:

joelmarable said:

what are u implying ?that im lying,when u know its true.rap is so monotonous, music is more fun dont u think