Allnall said:

Exactly. I can't believe in his artisic integrity if he (ath the age of 50) wants to sing songs from a 20 year old... I wished he would have become a true songwriter at this age and try to stop thinking of sales and records.

Wow, how about you guys slow it down with calling Michael deluded!

Where did Ne-Yo say that Michael wants the new album to sell more than Thriller?? The word "sales" is not mentioned! All he said was "This album needs to be better than Thriller. He wants killer melodies.", so that suggests that Michael is talking about the quality of the album being better than Thriller!

Let alone the fact that the source is the Daily Mirror!

Timmy84 said:

Not to mention Sony haven't updated the sales of Thriller OR Bad since like 1994

Maybe he wants to top the album in terms of quality.....
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well as long as it's carefree and melodic music that's easy to sing along to and representative of his musical talent, it should be good.

I don't know. I honestly don't know why it's so difficult for him to compile 12 to 15 songs. If it's true he records as many songs as he does per album surely he's got plenty left over. He may not even need to record barring that the tracks don't sound too dated.

But every album is a spectacle, a comeback or a big event because of the space between projects, the anticipation, the rumors and whispers, false leads and speculation. And I think this just puts more pressure and weight on the album to perform hugely not to mention the fact that it's Michael Jackson instead of it just being a simple release that can become a wonderful album.

JackieBlue said:

i think the same way... he could easily release a new album with preious unreleased songs...

But first, there's a reason why he left them out. I would say Jackson had some really cool outtakes that COULD have been on an album. He also seems to like to keep some songs in the vaults to improve them (i.e. Earth Song).
But the first problem is, they are dated or he wants to "create" new songs and doesn't always milk the INvinicible songs.

But in all honesty right now I'm sure it would be great if he'd reworked some of his early 80s songs.
Peiople would love it! Since the 80s are everywhere since 8 years...

I agree with this decade being so much like the 80's....minus mj himself though, and replaced with impersonators for now.

I do not think Michael Jackson will ever have another huge album. He has a better shot getting back up on the charts with a good single....than another Thriller. Michael has managed to mess his own career up & now hopes it can be restored with a comeback album. Is this the same album that was suppose to drop 2 or 3 years ago? Or is it another re-release of Thriller with some more new songs remixed?

He's already beaten Thriller a couple of times IMO

if he wants to push him selve to make quality music again then its good. let it come mike but if its overproduced stuff with no tempo changes , cheesy lyrics etc better leave the music business alone

I want 2 hear an album Written, Arranged and Produced by Michael Jackson. ALONE

motownlover said:

This is what I tried to explain to the zealots before. The thing they don't understand is just what a procrastinator Michael is, and just how scared he is. That's why the album is taking so long. That's why only a fool would make predictions about when it's coming out. Of course that don't stop them though.

P.S. I can't help laughing that Mike wants to make an incredible album and is expecting NeYo and Akon to give it to him.

WHY does anyone else have to work on this album but Michael Jackson??? If this guy 1/16th of the talent he pretends to have he wouldnt need producers - other people's ideas.

Do it yourself!

Turn you mic on and just sing - isnt it sad that this guy is respected and we dont have 100% proof he can actually sing anymore or lets be honest for the last 20 years! Sure he can carry a tune but that tune never sounds in key and its never like the album.

So simple...

Walk on Stage.
Go to the Mic.
TURN THE MIC ON.
and...
Sing.

Simple.

Question:

Why doesnt he do it?

No Gimmicks.

If he could do that he wouldnt need a new album. A new album that SOMEONE else is going to make and MJ is just going to put his name on it.

Graycap23 said:

graecophilos said:

ElectricBlue said:

If it´s that easy, why don´t you do it yourself?

I am sick and tired of this MJ bashing and questioning his talent. Sade hasn´t released anything in ages, do we question her talent? No. Prince has released ton´s of stuff - hardly any great ones recently. Do we question his talent? No.

MJ´s not chasing Thriller sales. He wants the album to be great¨and he knows he HAS to. Answer this question for yourself honestly? Would you be happy with anything average from him? Of course, not. So don´t pretend you want him to release just anything as long as it´s released now.

Can somebody call Mike for me and let him know, if he wants to beat Thriller, and he's relying on a guy called Ne-Yo to do it, he should just hole back up in the Palms and call it a career.

Does Michael truly believe that he can make a great album with the likes of Ne-Yo and will.i.am? Somebody get him away from these lame,trendy "producers"!

The past few days,I've been listening to the new Robin Thicke CD and I think it's truly the type of music that Michael should be doing.I'm not saying it's one of the greatest albums of all time,but it's just good music without any gimmicks,guest stars or any type of hip-hop influence.The songs are mature,genuine and sincere.It's not an album that's gonna change the world,but it's good,unpretentious music...something that I don't always hear on Michael's recent albums.

SoulAlive said:

for real, I'd like an old-school, mid-seventies soul vibe from Mike. He can do it, he was part of it.

I don't want no beeps and whistles or any modern RnB/shithop sounding crap.

WildStyle said:

I'd take Off The Wall, Dangerous and Invincible over Thriller in a heartbeat.

Marrk said:

Exactly.Robin's CD has a full-band sound.He uses real instruments throughout,giving the album a genuine retro feel.That's what Michael should do! Bring some real musicians on board and make a REAL ALBUM again! He used to work with truly talented,gifted guys like Quincy Jones and Rod Temperton and now he's settling for the likes of Ne-Yo and will.i.am?!

Marrk said:

Well, Invincible was that for me.
He delivered a mostly soulful R&B based album with Vince, just with a modern day twist to it.
Still great work, imo.

Oh wait, I'm on the Org. I have to bash everything post Thriller to be taken seriously.

SoulAlive said:

Oh, give it up, man. You say this shit at least a dozen times a week here.
Mike is gonna make the album that Mike wants to make and there's nothing that you can do about it.

Cloudbuster said:

True,'Invincible' was a mostly soulful affair and a few of the slower tracks are reminiscent of his 'Off The Wall' era ("Break Of Dawn","Butterflies",etc).So I know that he's capable of some cool retro sounds.Just wish he would go all the way with it,you know? Put a funk/R&B band together,get in the studio and come up with 12 dazzling tracks,without the assistance of shit hop producers.

SoulAlive said:

It's. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Cloudbuster said:

question: on the MJ message boards,what do most of his fans talk about? Does anyone say the stuff that I say? Just curious.

SoulAlive said:

You might find this hard to believe but I don't actually check out any MJ message boards, so I can't help you.

Cloudbuster said:

I guess there's no point,when you discuss MJ on this forum all the time

SoulAlive said:

I think you talk about him far more than I do. There's many threads I just ignore now.
I just watch to see which names appear on the side bar and think "Nah, no point. It's just the haters saying the same tired shit again" and just leave well alone.

But most MJ message boards are as scary as the Prince Music forum here so I don't bother with them anymore.

Cloudbuster said:

I'm trying to see if there are other fans who feel as I do Surely I can't be the only one...lol...