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Reply #30 posted 09/24/08 10:06am

Cinnie

I refuse to believe that 7 other completed Timbaland songs lost their place on her album to "Spanish Lesson".
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Reply #31 posted 09/24/08 10:42am

MikeMatronik

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By Alien Means was not recorded with Madonna.

Well, you both (Mike and David) have intersting thoughts.

I admit I really like Voices. When we first heard the snippets I thoght it was the weakest song along with Incredible (the snippet only was 30 sec of the first half!). Voices has his own charm I think.

I totally dislike Spanish Lesson. I like Ring My Bell more though I agree, it was born to be a b-side.

Since I like fast and funky songs I'm with David and wished he would have used more fast Timbaland tracks. Although I'm sure they're not as good as we wished, haha!!!

I gotta dmit I'm a bit disapointed by Dance 2Nite. I consider the verse melody weak. The chorus is great though, reminds me of Shalamar or Delegation.


It's lazyness of the chorus and the thumpin' bass that make Dance 2nite a true gem.
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Reply #32 posted 09/24/08 11:19am

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Cinnie said:

I refuse to believe that 7 other completed Timbaland songs lost their place on her album to "Spanish Lesson".



why seven others??? there are 5 songs missing.
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Reply #33 posted 09/24/08 2:41pm

Cinnie

graecophilos said:

Cinnie said:

I refuse to believe that 7 other completed Timbaland songs lost their place on her album to "Spanish Lesson".



why seven others??? there are 5 songs missing.


five then, you missed my point lol
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Reply #34 posted 09/26/08 2:44pm

LiveToTell86

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In an interview by Blackfile Pharrell talks about how Timbaland pushed him to do more then one record for Madonna. “Timbaland was pushing me, he was like ‘I like that one song you did’ and I was like yeah? And he was like ‘u gotta hear the album I did almost the whole thing’ and I was like Yeah?! Then Madonna kept teasing like ‘Tim Got More Sooongs Then You, Tim Got More Songs Then You’ and I was like.. Okay u aint gonna like me when I start turning green.. ”

http://www.youtube.com/wa...rg/page/2/


My newest theory is that Madonna and PW did Candy Shop together (their first song) and probably the eraly Beat Goes On version.

Than Timbaland came in and they must have written many songs including Devil Wouldn't Reckognize, Voices, Miles Away and 4 Minutes (and probably Across The Sky) in April so he mocked PW, who started working on some demos for Madonna, Heartbeat, Spanish Lesson and Ring My Bell.

In the second half of their working relationship Madonna worked on a few more other songs with Timbaland, and PW might have come up with She's Not Me, Give It 2 Me and the new Beat Goes On version and probably some others.

So in the end PW had one more song on the album than Timbaland. And I like Pharrell's songs much more than Timbalands!!

AGAIN, it would be soo cool to have some more songs from that album!!
[Edited 9/24/08 4:11am]


That seems to be a correct theory. Which proves that "Heartbeat" was always FOR Madonna, and not for PCD Nicole as some fans assume...
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Reply #35 posted 09/26/08 3:02pm

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Cinnie said:

graecophilos said:




why seven others??? there are 5 songs missing.


five then, you missed my point lol



haha, no I did, but I was confused? I'm not the best mathematic!!!
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Reply #36 posted 09/26/08 3:07pm

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LiveToTell86 said:

graecophilos said:

In an interview by Blackfile Pharrell talks about how Timbaland pushed him to do more then one record for Madonna. “Timbaland was pushing me, he was like ‘I like that one song you did’ and I was like yeah? And he was like ‘u gotta hear the album I did almost the whole thing’ and I was like Yeah?! Then Madonna kept teasing like ‘Tim Got More Sooongs Then You, Tim Got More Songs Then You’ and I was like.. Okay u aint gonna like me when I start turning green.. ”

http://www.youtube.com/wa...rg/page/2/


My newest theory is that Madonna and PW did Candy Shop together (their first song) and probably the eraly Beat Goes On version.

Than Timbaland came in and they must have written many songs including Devil Wouldn't Reckognize, Voices, Miles Away and 4 Minutes (and probably Across The Sky) in April so he mocked PW, who started working on some demos for Madonna, Heartbeat, Spanish Lesson and Ring My Bell.

In the second half of their working relationship Madonna worked on a few more other songs with Timbaland, and PW might have come up with She's Not Me, Give It 2 Me and the new Beat Goes On version and probably some others.

So in the end PW had one more song on the album than Timbaland. And I like Pharrell's songs much more than Timbalands!!

AGAIN, it would be soo cool to have some more songs from that album!!
[Edited 9/24/08 4:11am]


That seems to be a correct theory. Which proves that "Heartbeat" was always FOR Madonna, and not for PCD Nicole as some fans assume...


that's rubbish. I never believed that. Some fans even thought the PW demo was recoded AFTER the Madonna version. Why should he do that and write new, rubbish lyics when they demo lyrics are obviously pretty ruff and at times just to fill the syllables...
In fact I would appreaciate it if PW had written similiar songs for Nicole Scherzinger. Modern sounding songs but with an actual melody.
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Reply #37 posted 09/26/08 3:23pm

LiveToTell86

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LiveToTell86 said:



That seems to be a correct theory. Which proves that "Heartbeat" was always FOR Madonna, and not for PCD Nicole as some fans assume...


that's rubbish. I never believed that. Some fans even thought the PW demo was recoded AFTER the Madonna version. Why should he do that and write new, rubbish lyics when they demo lyrics are obviously pretty ruff and at times just to fill the syllables...
In fact I would appreaciate it if PW had written similiar songs for Nicole Scherzinger. Modern sounding songs but with an actual melody.


I agree, his lyrics were like improvisational just to show Madonna the melody.
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