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Reply #30 posted 09/18/08 11:05am

MrSoulpower

DiamondGlove said:



Looking at those videos now, I find them.....boring.


Ok, I stopped reading right here. Nevermind then. razz
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Reply #31 posted 09/18/08 11:07am

bboy87

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No one mentioned the Kang yet?
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #32 posted 09/18/08 11:09am

Timmy84

^ falloff
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Reply #33 posted 09/18/08 11:15am

DiamondGlove

MrSoulpower said:

DiamondGlove said:



Looking at those videos now, I find them.....boring.


Ok, I stopped reading right here. Nevermind then. razz


They are. biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 09/18/08 11:18am

Annika

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MrSoulpower said:

DiamondGlove said:



Looking at those videos now, I find them.....boring.


Ok, I stopped reading right here. Nevermind then. razz


You stopped reading because someone disagrees with you? confused

I disagreed with your original post, but I still took the time to watch the videos and consider your point. I still disagree, but at least now I know exactly what I'm disagreeing with and I'm able to respect your point of view.

/emo - back to fun thread!
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Reply #35 posted 09/18/08 11:20am

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Timmy84 said:

^ falloff

YOU KNOWS IT BE TRUE! lol

^^yes, that's Free from 106 and Park

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Reply #36 posted 09/18/08 11:22am

MrSoulpower

Annika said:

MrSoulpower said:



Ok, I stopped reading right here. Nevermind then. razz


You stopped reading because someone disagrees with you? confused

I disagreed with your original post, but I still took the time to watch the videos and consider your point. I still disagree, but at least now I know exactly what I'm disagreeing with and I'm able to respect your point of view.

/emo - back to fun thread!


My quote obviously was not meant literal. Of course I read his/her comment. But it's obvious that he/she has long made up his/her mind, so I really see no point trying to debate taste.
We can discuss Brown's historical significance, but there's no way I'm gonna try to convince someone to like James Brown when he/she obviously isn't feeling it.
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Reply #37 posted 09/18/08 11:23am

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The Godfather
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #38 posted 09/18/08 11:23am

Annika

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

^ falloff

YOU KNOWS IT BE TRUE! lol

^^yes, that's Free from 106 and Park



OMG all the years I've wasted on that talentless hack MJ! Where can I trade in my Off The Wall CD? eek
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Reply #39 posted 09/18/08 11:24am

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MrSoulpower said:

Annika said:



You stopped reading because someone disagrees with you? confused

I disagreed with your original post, but I still took the time to watch the videos and consider your point. I still disagree, but at least now I know exactly what I'm disagreeing with and I'm able to respect your point of view.

/emo - back to fun thread!


My quote obviously was not meant literal. Of course I read his/her comment. But it's obvious that he/she has long made up his/her mind, so I really see no point trying to debate taste.
We can discuss Brown's historical significance, but there's no way I'm gonna try to convince someone to like James Brown when he/she obviously isn't feeling it.


Sorry, I get a little carried away sometimes. wink
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Reply #40 posted 09/18/08 11:25am

DiamondGlove

Annika said:

MrSoulpower said:



Ok, I stopped reading right here. Nevermind then. razz


You stopped reading because someone disagrees with you? confused

I disagreed with your original post, but I still took the time to watch the videos and consider your point. I still disagree, but at least now I know exactly what I'm disagreeing with and I'm able to respect your point of view.

/emo - back to fun thread!


That's the mentaility I can't stand.
I don't have to love these old acts; James Brown, The Beatles etc... just because people say they're the best. I don't find them inspiring or entertaining. Big deal. Then people think you don't know anything about music. Pfft. If you think that Suck it!
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Reply #41 posted 09/18/08 11:26am

motownlover

its unfair to compare anyone to michael at his peak i stress his peak but as a whole brown and prince are more consistant and there for greater. stevie wonder might not be a dancer but he is onehelluva singer
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Reply #42 posted 09/18/08 11:41am

motownlover

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No one mentioned the Kang yet?



jackie wilson anyone>?
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Reply #43 posted 09/18/08 11:52am

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Funny, I now find MJ’s Motown 25 performance a little boring. At the time it was the greatest thing ever but looking back at it, I’m not that moved.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #44 posted 09/18/08 11:53am

Timmy84

Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Prince and Michael Jackson are all great performers. I wouldn't compare them. IMHO, all of them are the G.O.A.T.'s.
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Reply #45 posted 09/18/08 11:54am

Timmy84

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Funny, I now find MJ’s Motown 25 performance a little boring. At the time it was the greatest thing ever but looking back at it, I’m not that moved.


His 1984 performance of it was the best one. Marvin's performance on "Motown 25" is actually now my favorite performance from that show.
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Reply #46 posted 09/18/08 12:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

JackieBlue said:

Funny, I now find MJ’s Motown 25 performance a little boring. At the time it was the greatest thing ever but looking back at it, I’m not that moved.


His 1984 performance of it was the best one. Marvin's performance on "Motown 25" is actually now my favorite performance from that show.


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Unfortunately I appreciate Marvin more now than I did then.
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Reply #47 posted 09/18/08 12:12pm

Timmy84

JackieBlue said:

Timmy84 said:



His 1984 performance of it was the best one. Marvin's performance on "Motown 25" is actually now my favorite performance from that show.


nod

Unfortunately I appreciate Marvin more now than I did then.


I understand. Marvin was hard to appreciate when he was alive because he was an edgy artist. Now that he's been dead almost 25 years, people are giving him this respect that he never really got in life until near the very end of his life.
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Reply #48 posted 09/18/08 12:16pm

midnightmover

Greatest live performer? Y'all know the answer to that one... wink

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Reply #49 posted 09/18/08 12:19pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

Come on now, how can you ask that question on a Prince site?! lol. Anyway, I believe as of today Prince is the greatest living performer, but at MJ's prime, I believe that he couldn't be touched and was the best. Lip synching and sticking to the same boring, routines on his tours have done some damage to his rep as a performer. I liked how spontaneous of a performer he used to be when he was with his brothers, but everything became too rehearsed when he became a solo artist and the lip synching was downright embarrassing, especially for such a talented vocalist like Michael. The lip synching is why I hardly ever watch the "History Tour". I feel like if you can't sing live then don't even bother performing. There's no excuse for lip synching almost an entire show.

Like I said though, at his peak, he was the greatest-at least to me anyway.
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falloff I was waiting for someone to say that!

Everything you said along with the bolded statement was on point Cinnamon234. clapping
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Reply #50 posted 09/18/08 12:46pm

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For a time I might say yes. But quickly after Thriller, he became so posed & artificial, that he lost this particular fan. How many times can I be excited by the same moves, especially when he's not just dancing from the heart but it's all planned out? Plus he wasn't even singing much of the time. The lack of spontaneity hurt my appreciation.

Not that everyone feels this way. He had a unique ability to create hype, mania. Even Prince, who had a huge wave of excitement follow him, and more on the musicology shows I saw than any since Purple Rain. But it was not the same mania seen at a Beatles or Michael Jackson concert. That particular type of mania is interesting fro a cultural standpoint, but it doesn't sweep me up. The music or the performance itself is what I look at, and James Brown, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, and even Nirvana & P-Funk at times did stuff that is more exciting than post 1987 Michael Jackson.
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Reply #51 posted 09/18/08 12:46pm

motownlover

Timmy84 said:

Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Prince and Michael Jackson are all great performers. I wouldn't compare them. IMHO, all of them are the G.O.A.T.'s.



what does G.O.A.T s mean lol ?
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Reply #52 posted 09/18/08 12:50pm

Timmy84

motownlover said:

Timmy84 said:

Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Prince and Michael Jackson are all great performers. I wouldn't compare them. IMHO, all of them are the G.O.A.T.'s.



what does G.O.A.T s mean lol ?




Greatest Of All Time. biggrin
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Reply #53 posted 09/18/08 12:52pm

midnightmover

Timmy84 said:

motownlover said:




what does G.O.A.T s mean lol ?




Greatest Of All Time. biggrin

hmmm Doesn't having four G.O.A.Ts kind of defeat the purpose then? smile
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Reply #54 posted 09/18/08 12:57pm

Timmy84

midnightmover said:

Timmy84 said:





Greatest Of All Time. biggrin

hmmm Doesn't having four G.O.A.Ts kind of defeat the purpose then? smile


Not to me. razz lol

Well, I often say each of them are the greatest in their own ways. shrug I don't like to play favorites, lol.
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Reply #55 posted 09/18/08 1:01pm

midnightmover

Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:


hmmm Doesn't having four G.O.A.Ts kind of defeat the purpose then? smile


Not to me. razz lol

Well, I often say each of them are the greatest in their own ways. shrug I don't like to play favorites, lol.

Muhammad Ali would be pissed if you said he was one of four G.O.A.Ts. smile
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Reply #56 posted 09/18/08 1:02pm

Timmy84

midnightmover said:

Timmy84 said:



Not to me. razz lol

Well, I often say each of them are the greatest in their own ways. shrug I don't like to play favorites, lol.

Muhammad Ali would be pissed if you said he was one of four G.O.A.Ts. smile


Ali is in his own universe. smile To me he really owns that title. Maybe I should call MJ, JB, Jackie and Prince four of the greatest. biggrin
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Reply #57 posted 09/18/08 1:05pm

namepeace

Okay, some of y'all need to check yourselves. Not naming any names, but James Brown on wax is electrifying, much less live. He turned it out like Goldie everywhere he put his feet down.

I don't recall Prince or MJ ever saving a city from burning with the power of their voices and feet.

Now, the case can be made for MJ. He was, at his peak, colossal. My favorite is Prince, he's jaw-droppingly awesome live.

But let me put a word in for Sammy Davis, Jr. The man could sing, dance, impersonate and play.

I hear people find religion at Springsteen concerts.

Duke Ellington?

John Coltrane?

So many others to consider.
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Reply #58 posted 09/18/08 1:19pm

midnightmover

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Okay, some of y'all need to check yourselves. Not naming any names, but James Brown on wax is electrifying, much less live. He turned it out like Goldie everywhere he put his feet down.

I don't recall Prince or MJ ever saving a city from burning with the power of their voices and feet.

Now, the case can be made for MJ. He was, at his peak, colossal. My favorite is Prince, he's jaw-droppingly awesome live.

But let me put a word in for Sammy Davis, Jr. The man could sing, dance, impersonate and play.

I hear people find religion at Springsteen concerts.

Duke Ellington?

John Coltrane?

So many others to consider.

I nearly did earlier this year when I saw him live for the first time. FUCKING PHENOMENAL! I repeat, PHENOMENAL! Although I think if you didn't know the songs and understand where he's coming from, it would probably be lost on you. But if you know the songs and you know what he's talking about, then you'll see it for the hellfire earth shaking experience it really is. Springsteen has something that neither Prince or MJ has. He stands for something. And it's there everytime he sings (of course, the E Street Band are a big part of that too, both sonically and symbolically). Both P and MJ seem pretty superficial by comparison.
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Reply #59 posted 09/18/08 1:20pm

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funkpill said:

Piiijiii said:

James Brown was the best liver performer without a doubt smile



TAWK!!! cool


Honestly!!! That man could sliiiide across the stage like no ones business.

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