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Reply #90 posted 09/13/08 8:35am

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Bewdy said:

Well he was on Jonathon Ross last night (uk talk show) and I've got a few more comments to make after having seen that.

From the interview point of view, i thought it was extremely contrived and insincere. The fact that he was saying things almost verbatim that he said in the concert makes me think that he has been rehearsing what he says, and it makes me question someones sincerity. I also think he is pretty boring to listen to.

Then the performance, although the set on TV was pretty short, but long in Jonathon Ross's standards, it was much more upbeat and seemed to have more life to it than the gig in Manchester. But again bizarrely, Stevie let Jonathon Ross play along at the front with an electronic drum kit for the first track (Superstition). Man I know it is supposed to be an entrainment show, but where is Stevie's sense of dignity, i thought it was pretty foolish. Kudos for Jonathon Ross for having a laugh, major lack of kudos for Stevie letting him have it at his expense. Fair enough the electronic drums were very low in the mix but come on!

Anyway, I think I've established the crux of why I'm not digging Stevie live. On the one hand, i think there is too much going on in the drums and percussion, and I think it really blurs the sound in a live situation, and makes it very difficult to pick out what's going on, from a musical point of view. Secondly, although I dearly love his albums, I think as person I just don't get him.

I'm happy to separate the man from the music, and I think I just won't go see him live again. Lets hope he continues writing great albums.
[Edited 9/13/08 1:36am]


eek WTF . Stevie Wonder was brilliant on the show. He was funny and engaging unlike many other guests. It was cool how he talked about Motown, his mother and and the jokes relating to his blindness were humorous.
What is wrong with letting Jonathan Ross play the Drums? It didn't diminish from Stevie's performance and it was hilarious watching Ross beating those drums. It wasn't undignified at all. It just shows the guy is good natured and not stuck up.
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Reply #91 posted 09/13/08 9:30am

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curioso said:

Bewdy said:

Well he was on Jonathon Ross last night (uk talk show) and I've got a few more comments to make after having seen that.

From the interview point of view, i thought it was extremely contrived and insincere. The fact that he was saying things almost verbatim that he said in the concert makes me think that he has been rehearsing what he says, and it makes me question someones sincerity. I also think he is pretty boring to listen to.

Then the performance, although the set on TV was pretty short, but long in Jonathon Ross's standards, it was much more upbeat and seemed to have more life to it than the gig in Manchester. But again bizarrely, Stevie let Jonathon Ross play along at the front with an electronic drum kit for the first track (Superstition). Man I know it is supposed to be an entrainment show, but where is Stevie's sense of dignity, i thought it was pretty foolish. Kudos for Jonathon Ross for having a laugh, major lack of kudos for Stevie letting him have it at his expense. Fair enough the electronic drums were very low in the mix but come on!

Anyway, I think I've established the crux of why I'm not digging Stevie live. On the one hand, i think there is too much going on in the drums and percussion, and I think it really blurs the sound in a live situation, and makes it very difficult to pick out what's going on, from a musical point of view. Secondly, although I dearly love his albums, I think as person I just don't get him.

I'm happy to separate the man from the music, and I think I just won't go see him live again. Lets hope he continues writing great albums.
[Edited 9/13/08 1:36am]


eek WTF . Stevie Wonder was brilliant on the show. He was funny and engaging unlike many other guests. It was cool how he talked about Motown, his mother and and the jokes relating to his blindness were humorous.
What is wrong with letting Jonathan Ross play the Drums? It didn't diminish from Stevie's performance and it was hilarious watching Ross beating those drums. It wasn't undignified at all. It just shows the guy is good natured and not stuck up.


Bedys opinion on the funny interview shows once again, that he doesn't think like most of us.
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Reply #92 posted 09/13/08 11:46am

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Well not wanting to get dragged into this... but fuck it I'm gonna anyway.

I saw Stevie on the opening night. I have no albums but am aware of his hits. I thought I was gonna cringe through I Just Called but it wasn't that bad. Quite nice actually. I got up and danced at the end when the funky numbers were played just like everyone else.

Some songs dragged on, audience participation was a little too frequent and I really can't be arsed singing (badly) "la dee la la leeee do do doooo" and so on. Never can at concerts. I'm there to hear them sing not a few thousand others.

The band set piece did drag on. 10 musicians ffs! The one guitarist was ok but generic, the other was better. Three drummers! Look, if you hit them and they make a bong or boom sound then they're drums ok. The keyboard player was good. But let's face it every concert we go to has some sort of solo piece for the band. Why? I don't need to hear them alone I need to hear them making music! I have to listen to myself play guitar each day by myself!

And as for Stevie losing his mum? It is sad but with a few thousand in the audience probably having gone through the same it doesn't need to be said in such length. We all suffer loss. It's not a nice thing for any of us.

And finally, who the fuck was that that wondered on stage to show Stevie that award? It may be the start of some racial intolerance week but I don't need to know. I'm not racist, it doesn't bother me! I've paid £130 for two tickets to hear music and to listen to Stevie Wonder, not some unknown from Brum waffle on about some footballer. Really felt like a discount was in order at that part of the show. Also poor old Stevie and his band with their support for Barak Obama(?). I'm English so why do I give a f? We've got our own bunch of incompetent leaders without caring that America is finally picking a token black guy to show that race is no longer an issue. As if.

So would I go to another Stevie show? Yes, but not this tour (unless it was half price).

Am I glad I went. Definately. I mean let's face it it's Stevie Wonder we're talking about here. Who else has done what he has? Fabulous songs, fabulous music, fabulous night smile
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Reply #93 posted 09/13/08 4:58pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

I'm sorry but when you use "Stevie Wonder" and "dud" in the same sentence without the word "not" in between them somewhere, your credibility is highly questionable. Sorry you didn't like it. Actually, no I'm not.


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Reply #94 posted 09/13/08 5:00pm

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marnifrances said:

Damn. Don't tell me that he sucked. We're paying a shitload to see him in late october. sad


Now, now. This is one person's opinion. Go with an open mind!
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Reply #95 posted 09/13/08 5:10pm

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Claire73 said:

Right,saw the show last night and was worried after reading about the preachy stuff....I shouldnt have worried.Stevie took 2 mins to pay respects to his late mum who passed away in 2006(saying this was when he had planned to do this tour,but put it back 2 years),,and a minutes silence for 9/11.

The music and everything was fantastic. He was hilarious with the audience participation and played all my fav songs. My only critisism was the song played when introducing his band,and the band played in turn. That really dragged. Other than that,brilliant show!!!! biggrin



Wow. I have to say I'm rather surprised that people would react to his band members the way that they are doing here (or maybe I shouldn't be)...Stevie's band is comprised of some of the most notable musicians in the entire music industry. They are highly respected virtuosos with a fair degree of reverence among their peers and serious music students the world over...it's very telling that one wouldn't appreciate the chance to see some of these cats play whofarted...but then after all, this is the org shrug Different strokes for different folks, I guess.


I'm surprised at that too. Here in Detroit--"Spain" got as much of a positive reaction as the rest of his hits! Detroit being a music town and definitely a JAZZ town, the musicianship was *definitely* appreciated. I personally know his trumpeter, Dwight Adams, and it was great to see that Stevie let he and the other musicians stretch out a bit.
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Reply #96 posted 09/13/08 5:12pm

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Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I'm sorry but when you use "Stevie Wonder" and "dud" in the same sentence without the word "not" in between them somewhere, your credibility is highly questionable. Sorry you didn't like it. Actually, no I'm not.

I don't know how fair that comment is. I hear people going on and on about how good Patty Labelle is live. I went 2 see her and all I heard was 2 hours of screaming and adlibed nonsense.

falloff falloff Well Patty has been through a lot too. She's like the only surviving sibling in her family now I believe. I think 3 of her sisters passed from breast cancer, thats a lot to handle emotionally.
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Reply #97 posted 09/13/08 5:12pm

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AlexdeParis said:

Bewdy said:



Just to be clear, Jonathon Ross can not play the drums, fine as a musician you may dream of playing with Stevie, but this was just for comedy no dreams being made, at least not any serious ones I wouldn't have thought.

I'm a singer and can't play a lick of drums (not even Rock Band). Still, if Stevie asked, I'd be banging on those mofos for all they're worth with a Kool-Aid Man grin on my face the whole time! lol


For REAL. lol
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Reply #98 posted 09/14/08 11:52am

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As he gotten older Stevie has become more politically vocal and his voice is not as great as it use to be.

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Reply #99 posted 09/15/08 7:08am

Ronnuz

I can't believe you didn't enjoy Stevie in Manchester. I went to Mr. Wonder in Rotterdam (Holland) yesterday, and it was.. AMAZING. Very nice setlist (see below). He didn't really talk that much, only little things about his mother and about how we should unite as one. Also he wanted the public to shout 'Barack Obama', which I didn't really like that much (why do that in concert and why in Holland?). Apart from that, he was amazing and I'm really happy I have seen him live.

1 - All Blues (orig. Miles Davis)
2 - As If You Read My Mind
3 - Master Blaster (Jammin')
4 - Did I Hear You Say You Love Me
5 - All I Do
6 - Knocks Me Off My Feet
7 - People Make The World Go Round (on vocoder)
8 - Higher Ground
9 - Introduction band members (not sure which song)
10 - Don’t You Worry About A Thing
11 - Visions
12 - Living For The City
13 - Golden Lady
14 - Ribbon In The Sky
15 - Overjoyed
16 - Lately
17 - I'm Gonna Laugh You Out Of My Life (Aisha Morris)
18 - Signed Sealed Delivered
19 - Sir Duke
20 - I Wish
21 - Isn’t She Lovely
22 - Do I Do
23 - My Cherie Amour
24 - You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
25 - I Just Called To Say I Love You
26 - Superstition
27 - As

The show lasted for about 2,5 hours.
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Reply #100 posted 09/15/08 7:16am

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Ronnuz said:

I can't believe you didn't enjoy Stevie in Manchester. I went to Mr. Wonder in Rotterdam (Holland) yesterday, and it was.. AMAZING. Very nice setlist (see below). He didn't really talk that much, only little things about his mother and about how we should unite as one. Also he wanted the public to shout 'Barack Obama', which I didn't really like that much (why do that in concert and why in Holland?). Apart from that, he was amazing and I'm really happy I have seen him live.

1 - All Blues (orig. Miles Davis)
2 - As If You Read My Mind
3 - Master Blaster (Jammin')
4 - Did I Hear You Say You Love Me
5 - All I Do
6 - Knocks Me Off My Feet
7 - People Make The World Go Round (on vocoder)
8 - Higher Ground
9 - Introduction band members (not sure which song)
10 - Don’t You Worry About A Thing
11 - Visions
12 - Living For The City
13 - Golden Lady
14 - Ribbon In The Sky
15 - Overjoyed
16 - Lately
17 - I'm Gonna Laugh You Out Of My Life (Aisha Morris)
18 - Signed Sealed Delivered
19 - Sir Duke
20 - I Wish
21 - Isn’t She Lovely
22 - Do I Do
23 - My Cherie Amour
24 - You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
25 - I Just Called To Say I Love You
26 - Superstition
27 - As

The show lasted for about 2,5 hours.



wow, thank you very much! I'm gonan see him next week in Munich and I guess it will be almost the same. The setlist is cool, as sais before, you can't please everyone.

But I agree, I would be emberassed to shout Barack Obama. He's really popular her ein Germany, and I'd liek him to be prsident and we all know how SW supports BO but he shouldn't ask his fans to sing BO!!
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Reply #101 posted 09/15/08 12:12pm

Slave2daGroove

Saw him this summer and the set started off a little slow but a quarter of the way into it the people were up and dancing until the end.

Sorry your experience wasn't as fun. ; - (
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Reply #102 posted 09/15/08 12:19pm

Empress

Graycap23 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I'm sorry but when you use "Stevie Wonder" and "dud" in the same sentence without the word "not" in between them somewhere, your credibility is highly questionable. Sorry you didn't like it. Actually, no I'm not.

I don't know how fair that comment is. I hear people going on and on about how good Patty Labelle is live. I went 2 see her and all I heard was 2 hours of screaming and adlibed nonsense.


I agree with you Gray. I've seen Patti live before too and it was not the great show I was hoping for. I would say that 5-6 songs were awesome and the rest were nothing but a screamfest. I was disappointed with Patti.

I can see how someone would be disappointed with a lot of religious talk too. When that happens, I usually visit the ladies room. If people are actually hecking, maybe Stevie will change his show a little. shrug
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Reply #103 posted 09/15/08 1:06pm

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Empress said:

Graycap23 said:


I don't know how fair that comment is. I hear people going on and on about how good Patty Labelle is live. I went 2 see her and all I heard was 2 hours of screaming and adlibed nonsense.


I agree with you Gray. I've seen Patti live before too and it was not the great show I was hoping for. I would say that 5-6 songs were awesome and the rest were nothing but a screamfest. I was disappointed with Patti.

I can see how someone would be disappointed with a lot of religious talk too. When that happens, I usually visit the ladies room. If people are actually hecking, maybe Stevie will change his show a little. shrug


I hope his people have he guts to tell him that. Because I don't know if SW can sense that some people are uncomfortable with his speeches.
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Reply #104 posted 09/15/08 5:12pm

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I was impressed;

Esp. by his voice
His sence of humor
and his gutts to throw his glasses off in front of 8000 or more people !!

Great set list too btw

cool
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Reply #105 posted 09/16/08 12:50am

Ronnuz

graecophilos said:

Ronnuz said:

I can't believe you didn't enjoy Stevie in Manchester. I went to Mr. Wonder in Rotterdam (Holland) yesterday, and it was.. AMAZING. Very nice setlist (see below). He didn't really talk that much, only little things about his mother and about how we should unite as one. Also he wanted the public to shout 'Barack Obama', which I didn't really like that much (why do that in concert and why in Holland?). Apart from that, he was amazing and I'm really happy I have seen him live.

1 - All Blues (orig. Miles Davis)
2 - As If You Read My Mind
3 - Master Blaster (Jammin')
4 - Did I Hear You Say You Love Me
5 - All I Do
6 - Knocks Me Off My Feet
7 - People Make The World Go Round (on vocoder)
8 - Higher Ground
9 - Introduction band members (not sure which song)
10 - Don’t You Worry About A Thing
11 - Visions
12 - Living For The City
13 - Golden Lady
14 - Ribbon In The Sky
15 - Overjoyed
16 - Lately
17 - I'm Gonna Laugh You Out Of My Life (Aisha Morris)
18 - Signed Sealed Delivered
19 - Sir Duke
20 - I Wish
21 - Isn’t She Lovely
22 - Do I Do
23 - My Cherie Amour
24 - You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
25 - I Just Called To Say I Love You
26 - Superstition
27 - As

The show lasted for about 2,5 hours.



wow, thank you very much! I'm gonan see him next week in Munich and I guess it will be almost the same. The setlist is cool, as sais before, you can't please everyone.

But I agree, I would be emberassed to shout Barack Obama. He's really popular her ein Germany, and I'd liek him to be prsident and we all know how SW supports BO but he shouldn't ask his fans to sing BO!!


Yes, the setlist was really nice! I was kinda surprised by 'As' though. Everybody thought the concert was over, and all of a sudden Stevie started singing As. Also, during Superstition, Stevie sang So What the Fuss which I forgot to write down.
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Reply #106 posted 09/16/08 2:13am

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I saw Stevie in Manchester the same night and he totally blew my mind absolutely amazing.

I loved the first half of the show where he played some obscure songs-it really showed what an amazing vocalist and instrumentalist he is. Plus it made the hits bit at the end even more of a surprise by the last hour everyone in the stadium was up dancing, I left there on a high!

His show was like a lesson in how to do a gig real back to basics, no fireworks, costume changes, stunts just stevie, his band and great music!
Oh Princey if your free for a couple of hours...If you aint busy for the next 7 years...Lets Pretend were married, and go all night..
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Reply #107 posted 09/16/08 2:17am

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By the way I thought he was great on Johnathon Ross, he made the show bearable, compared to the likes of Abi Clancy, I felt insulted for Stevie that he even had to share the green room with such a no mark.

He was good humoured, charismatic and charming, not just a great musician but a really nice human being also.
Oh Princey if your free for a couple of hours...If you aint busy for the next 7 years...Lets Pretend were married, and go all night..
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Reply #108 posted 09/16/08 2:23am

SoulAlive

Fhunkin said:

I was impressed;

Esp. by his voice
His sence of humor
and his gutts to throw his glasses off in front of 8000 or more people !!

Great set list too btw

cool


fhunkin,is that you?! Where the hell have you been? lol
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Reply #109 posted 09/16/08 3:34am

iloveannie

bex23 said:

By the way I thought he was great on Johnathon Ross, he made the show bearable, compared to the likes of Abi Clancy, I felt insulted for Stevie that he even had to share the green room with such a no mark.

He was good humoured, charismatic and charming, not just a great musician but a really nice human being also.


Yeah, who the hell was (do we care?) that dim-witted blonde. Okay she was fit but just how stupid was she? If she was pretending to be an airhead she did a really good job. Now I don't want to insult the Liverpudlians but (like Brummies) the pretty ones should really never speak. Immediately it ruins everyones impression of them. Except in the case of Abi where no-one was expecting any form of intelligent rapport anyway. Why oh why was she allowed on the show when she had nothing of any interest apart from what was under her dress?
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Reply #110 posted 09/16/08 7:30am

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bex23 said:

I saw Stevie in Manchester the same night and he totally blew my mind absolutely amazing.

I loved the first half of the show where he played some obscure songs-it really showed what an amazing vocalist and instrumentalist he is. Plus it made the hits bit at the end even more of a surprise by the last hour everyone in the stadium was up dancing, I left there on a high!

His show was like a lesson in how to do a gig real back to basics, no fireworks, costume changes, stunts just stevie, his band and great music!


Wow. Same show completely opposite experience. Perspective is amazing.
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Reply #111 posted 09/16/08 8:22am

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I saw Stevie Wonder last night in Manchester too, he rocked! I thought the whole gig was really good. Go and see Kylie if you want to dance all the way through and see 84 costume changs. wink


lol! Made me laugh but that aside glad Bewdy telling it like it is smile
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Reply #112 posted 09/16/08 8:23am

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well to be honest I couldn't careless if someone questions my taste in music because I don't kiss the ground an artist walks on.
[Edited 9/11/08 4:01am]


Good on you! Too many will never find any fault in their fav artists and seem to forget they are human and not some superbeing!
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Reply #113 posted 09/16/08 8:45am

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I haven't seen any official setlists so in no order what my friend remembered:

My Cherie Amour
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Superstition
Blame It On The Sun
Visions
Living For The City
Golden Lady
Higher Ground
Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing
Sir Duke
I Wish
Knocks Me Off My Feet
Isn't She Lovely
As
Another Star
Did I Hear You Say You Love Me
All I Do
As If You Read My Mind
Master Blaster
Do Like You
Overjoyed
People Make The World Go Round
Ribbon In The Sky
Stop Foolin' Yourself Baby Girl
'Aisha's song'
I Just Called To Say I Love You
Do I Do



thats an awesome setlist give or take one or 2!
ive seen stevie live 2ice and both times i was floored at the talent
no silly dancers flashing booty
no crazy pyrotechnics
none of that crap
just great songs / great talent
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Reply #114 posted 09/16/08 9:52pm

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SoulAlive said:

Fhunkin said:

I was impressed;

Esp. by his voice
His sence of humor
and his gutts to throw his glasses off in front of 8000 or more people !!

Great set list too btw

cool


fhunkin,is that you?! Where the hell have you been? lol


Yes it is !! I'm still here but mostly lurking wink
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Reply #115 posted 09/17/08 1:48am

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Bewdy said:

Stevie wonder Live = Big Dissappoinment

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Reply #116 posted 09/17/08 2:07am

SoulAlive

Fhunkin? Dancelot? Wow!

This thread is really bringing back all of the old Orgers lol Haven't seen you guys in a long time.
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Reply #117 posted 09/17/08 2:31am

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SoulAlive said:

Fhunkin? Dancelot? Wow!

This thread is really bringing back all of the old Orgers lol Haven't seen you guys in a long time.


old? OLD?! OLD?!?! mad



oh, now I get it. of course you just mean I've been an org member for quite some time. while personally of course I'm still young and fresh as new fallen snow innocent
hey, I'm younger than McCain. even younger than Palin biggrin
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Reply #118 posted 09/17/08 2:34am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

Fhunkin? Dancelot? Wow!

This thread is really bringing back all of the old Orgers lol Haven't seen you guys in a long time.


old? OLD?! OLD?!?! mad



oh, now I get it. of course you just mean I've been an org member for quite some time. while personally of course I'm still young and fresh as new fallen snow innocent
hey, I'm younger than McCain. even younger than Palin biggrin


You know what I mean lol You're one of the orgers I used to chat with alot.You rarely post here anymore.Remember,we often talked about Earth Wind and Fire.
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Reply #119 posted 09/17/08 2:38am

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well, I just don't really have too much spare time left these days. okay, I admit... I didn't have any spare time in the past either, it's just that back then I didn't care smile
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