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Thread started 09/09/08 2:28pm

alphastreet

Janet's Velvet Rope: masterpiece or not?

Critics called it her best work and although sales were slow and people started hating on janet, I think it's aged well as an album and I still love it, although I don't know if it's her best ever. Sometimes I love it and other times I'm just not in the mood for it.

What is your honest take on this album? Please stick to the music, no jokes about coffee enemas, thanks smile
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Reply #1 posted 09/09/08 2:31pm

viciuzurban

classic definitely. her angst and hunger was what was missing from discipline.
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Reply #2 posted 09/09/08 2:39pm

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Definitely a classic.
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Reply #3 posted 09/09/08 3:19pm

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classic. it's the only janet album i've ever wanted to own nod
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Reply #4 posted 09/09/08 3:40pm

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I love it!!!
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Reply #5 posted 09/09/08 4:37pm

banks

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Classic...
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Reply #6 posted 09/09/08 4:47pm

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Its a classic. The tour is still one of the best tours I've seen to date. That show was incredible.
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Reply #7 posted 09/09/08 4:56pm

Timmy84

Definitely a classic.
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Reply #8 posted 09/09/08 5:31pm

lowkey

classic, her best album and the best concert i've been to
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Reply #9 posted 09/09/08 5:31pm

Ellie

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No. Had potential but there's a hell of a lot of shit on it.
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Reply #10 posted 09/09/08 5:35pm

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Yes.
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Reply #11 posted 09/09/08 5:36pm

midnightmover

It's okay. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Reply #12 posted 09/09/08 5:38pm

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Ellie said:

No. Had potential but there's a hell of a lot of shit on it.


Examples?
There are 16 actual songs on there. Which ones do you think are "crap"?
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Reply #13 posted 09/09/08 5:41pm

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It's a classic. Any CD that has songs like "Together Again" and "I Get So Lonely" on them is a classic in my eyes.
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Reply #14 posted 09/09/08 5:44pm

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yes best album to date from her.

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Reply #15 posted 09/09/08 5:50pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

Ellie said:

No. Had potential but there's a hell of a lot of shit on it.


Examples?
There are 16 actual songs on there. Which ones do you think are "crap"?

My Need
Go Deep (has REALLY dated)
Empty
Every Time (ZZZZZ)
Tonight's The Night
Anything

Had to get the CD out to view them over there because they sure as hell aren't in my iTunes library.
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Reply #16 posted 09/09/08 5:57pm

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Ellie said:

No. Had potential but there's a hell of a lot of shit on it.

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This album has some of Janet's best work. It's probably the last time we've actually seen her do something artistic. What man cannot get a hard-on after listening to "Rope Burn"?
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Reply #17 posted 09/09/08 6:04pm

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Ellie said:

BlaqueKnight said:



Examples?
There are 16 actual songs on there. Which ones do you think are "crap"?

My Need
Go Deep (has REALLY dated)
Empty
Every Time (ZZZZZ)
Tonight's The Night
Anything

I remember that one. lol God, what an awful song. I always hated those silly songs she started doing with "Whoops Now". Yuck! That shit ultimately led to "Just A Little While", one of the most disgusting songs ever. I only heard it two or three times, but I still can't shake the memory. smile
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Reply #18 posted 09/09/08 6:06pm

Graycap23

When I think musical masterpiece.....Janet NEVER comes 2 mind.
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Reply #19 posted 09/09/08 6:08pm

midnightmover

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When I think musical masterpiece.....Janet NEVER comes 2 mind.

Standards are pretty low in orgland. Like I said before, "Velvet Rope" is okay. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Reply #20 posted 09/09/08 6:09pm

Ellie

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midnightmover said:


I remember that one. lol God, what an awful song. I always hated those silly songs she started doing with "Whoops Now". Yuck! That shit ultimately led to "Just A Little While", one of the most disgusting songs ever. I only heard it two or three times, but I still can't shake the memory. smile

Yeah, her older summery danceable songs like Escapade and When I Think Of You are are classics. I even like Because of Love! You can barely even hear her weak voice on Go Deep and like I said, it's really dated.
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/08 6:11pm

midnightmover

Ellie said:

midnightmover said:


I remember that one. lol God, what an awful song. I always hated those silly songs she started doing with "Whoops Now". Yuck! That shit ultimately led to "Just A Little While", one of the most disgusting songs ever. I only heard it two or three times, but I still can't shake the memory. smile

Yeah, her older summery danceable songs like Escapade and When I Think Of You are are classics. I even like Because of Love! You can barely even hear her weak voice on Go Deep and like I said, it's really dated.

I love "Escapade". "Because of Love" is okay, but I have a pair of balls which means I unfortunately can't relate to it.
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/08 6:14pm

Graycap23

midnightmover said:

Graycap23 said:

When I think musical masterpiece.....Janet NEVER comes 2 mind.

Standards are pretty low in orgland. Like I said before, "Velvet Rope" is okay. Nothing more, nothing less.

No doubt.
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Reply #23 posted 09/09/08 6:20pm

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alphastreet said:

Critics called it her best work and although sales were slow and people started hating on janet, I think it's aged well as an album and I still love it, although I don't know if it's her best ever. Sometimes I love it and other times I'm just not in the mood for it.

What is your honest take on this album? Please stick to the music, no jokes about coffee enemas, thanks smile


The Velvet Rope = Janet Jackson's final masterpiece (IMHO)!
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Reply #24 posted 09/09/08 7:56pm

PatrickS77

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Classic!
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Reply #25 posted 09/09/08 8:39pm

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Well I still think that "Rhythm Nation" is Janet's best album to date and I doubt she'll ever top it, but I think "The Velvet Rope" is a damn good album in it's own right. Janet really stepped out of her comfort zone. She took on subject matters that she'd never discussed in great detail before like spousal abuse, sexuality, AIDS, etc. Songs like "You", "Got 'Til It's Gone", "Together Again", "Rope Burn", "Velvet Rope", "What About", "Free Xone" are all top notch. It was so different from anything she had done before. I just love that album and yes the tour was absolutely incredible! I think it's her best tour to date.
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Reply #26 posted 09/09/08 9:03pm

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Ellie said:

BlaqueKnight said:



Examples?
There are 16 actual songs on there. Which ones do you think are "crap"?

My Need
Go Deep (has REALLY dated)
Empty
Every Time (ZZZZZ)
Tonight's The Night
Anything

Had to get the CD out to view them over there because they sure as hell aren't in my iTunes library.
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eek Anything is one of my favourite songs
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Reply #27 posted 09/09/08 9:04pm

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he last good album and the one along with Control I like.
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Reply #28 posted 09/09/08 9:10pm

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masterpiece...one of my favs cool
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Reply #29 posted 09/09/08 9:11pm

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I looooove Rope Burn. The rest is OK to me.
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