I think something's missing. Many songs aren't even released (the stuff with Usher for example) because they think the songs aren't good enough. And that's true.
I think their peak was long ago. Madonna brought the very best of PW (I think he wrote some of his best melodies)...
The early 2000s were best, right? What do you think, will they go on and on and on?? Or will hey quit?
I mean, that's what happened to every producer. Quincy, Neil Rodgers... they will be old fashioned one day. I hope people will get bored by Timbaland very soon.

I like most of The Neptunes productions, including the unreleased ones



Vanessa Marquez- Want You To Know


Natasha Ramos- In The Midnight Hour

I like them too...nothing wrong with them other than the sound is changing and they cant seem to get a hit anymore these days. I really loved their production with madonna. "I Know" on JayZ's American Gangster was top notch..probably their last notable hit. Give It Up by Twista was nice too...but went nowhere.

I liked some of his production with Usher especially "Dont Take It Personal" was HOT. I caouldnt believe it wasnt on Here i Stand..but after hearing it...it wouldnt have fit in.
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paisleypark4 said:

with T Pain, Akon, and Timbaland crowding up the airwaves, how can you get a hit?

bboy87 said:

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my beloved solange's I decided (part 1)...

graecophilos said:

I think Madonna brought the worst out of them. There worst shit to date.
I mean seriously.

Rumours has it that even though they've lost their magic,
they still own a few meager magical leftovers in their pockets:
- a short circuited wand (useless)
- a dried up magic potion (powerless)
- the tiny stubs of a hundred or so magic candles
- and a few last handfuls of magic feed corn (just junk) that can make reindeer fly.

I love their productions,,,pharell and Jay-Z should really just cut a whole album together..they make great music together...would love to have these cuts on my ipod

The Vanessa Marquez track is hot. Whatever happened to her? I thought she had an album coming out. I liked her song on the Presents disc tool.

They've always had good moments and bad moments. I thought they were done for a bit and I was hesitant about Madonna, but it turned out way better than I thought. I think he should work with MJ and then take a break while still on top.

I really love thier work too
They just aren't the flavor of the month right now

popgodazipa said:

No no no no nooo..... Jay Z Just Blaze and Kanye are a force to be reckoned with..with a song or 2 by the Neptunes. But Jay Z and those rare old underground r&b cuts go together like white on rice.

So does anybody know what's up with this Vanessa chic? She's no longer on StarTrak?

paisleypark4 said:

Yeah Just Blaze is underrated, they work really well as a team.

On a diffrent note listen to this. Its just stripped of vocals. The Neptunes do create some outstanding work that is like nothing really done before. http://www.youtube.com/wa...qUWG25RZ_0

paper said:

i find the chords and melodies PW comes up with a often sad or melancholy.

paper said:

why do you think this paper?? I think 4 Minutes, Miles Away and Dance Tonight are some od PW best melodies ever!!!

no, just joking. But I think Heartbeat is one of his pettierst melodies, If you dislike Madonna, just imagine Kelis or someoene singing it.

I still like the Neptunes. There I've said it. I like their beats but most of all I like the dreamy almost ambient sound they have on some of their songs. Their chord progressions work well for me especially seguing into bridges.

They may not be as strong as creative as they were and a bit overused at this point but I still have a place for them.
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graecophilos said:

I think that they are just really weak tracks. I also think if Madonna had less control over the creation of the music and left it to The Neptunes, it could be so much better, It sounds second hand compared to anything they have done with Britney and Gwen. Gwen and PW really have create some of the most amazing pop tracks of the last few years, that has made its mark in pop .

paper said:

funny you think Madonna had too much control. Most say it was the different case. But I don't know how you think she took control over let's say Heartbeat. PW wrote the whole song except the lyrics. Also the heartbeat as a beat was missing on his demo.

it's all about timing. everybody has their moment in the sun. they had to part ways with those chopped snares & clavichords sooner or later. they're sound has always been "out there", "hit" or "miss".

graecophilos said:

Well I did not spend my money on that album, its not worth my cd space but have heard it. lol I think she got out the worst in him.

They are back where they belong.

Graycap23 said:

where is this?

graecophilos said:

Out of the limelight.

graecophilos said:

oh hell naw

the neptunes are still fresh!

Graycap23 said:

I like Chad and Pharrell because they don't sound like everybody else.
They can go from hip hop to music which is cool to and they also have there band too.
fly or dye