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Thread started 09/10/08 10:32am

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Why doesn't Janet ever sing like she did on Scream?

I don't know if that song bought something out in her, but usually her vocals sound rather weak and strained (somewhat pathetic live)... but she sounds so strong on this track.

Maybe she pushed the boat out because she knew who else was singing on that record and didn't want to be showed up...

What do you think? Did she steal the show on Scream?
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Reply #1 posted 09/10/08 10:46am

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I love her voice on this song, it sounds so harsh and rough, it sounds great. I know MJs voice sounds like that a lot, I really think if she sung any other way the song would have sounded horrible. I mean, MJs grunts with a shy weak little voice would have sounded ridiculous. I agree with you, her voice is very weak, although shes an OK singer, I think she needs to project more when she sings.
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Reply #2 posted 09/10/08 10:55am

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A lot of people who have worked with Michael have said that he pushed them extremely hard, and that it helped them produce some of their best work as a result. Maybe he didn't go easy on her in the studio just because she's his sister?
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/08 11:00am

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Really great thread.

I have always thought this too. She did sound great even on What About she did sound all strong. Maybe because if she sang like that she would not sound cute. But then she sings about sex. lol
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Reply #4 posted 09/10/08 11:07am

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Isn't there an interview when someone ask Janet why they could not hear her on this track and she says she wondered the samething, alluding that her vocals were somehow mixed down... she said she knows when she left the studio she heard herself just fine, but whe the finish product was released it was a diffrent story
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Reply #5 posted 09/10/08 11:21am

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banks said:

Isn't there an interview when someone ask Janet why they could not hear her on this track and she says she wondered the samething, alluding that her vocals were somehow mixed down... she said she knows when she left the studio she heard herself just fine, but whe the finish product was released it was a diffrent story



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Reply #6 posted 09/10/08 12:18pm

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Have you ever listened to "Let's wait a while" -it doesn't sound like her at all... confused
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Reply #7 posted 09/10/08 12:28pm

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I wonder the same thing. Back in the day her voice seemed stronger than today. Most of the time is sounds very weak and "timid". i still love her but I just waish her voice were like it was b4... mad
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Reply #8 posted 09/10/08 12:41pm

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Why doesn't Janet ever sing like she did on Scream?


Because she sounded like a screaming toddler on it?
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Reply #9 posted 09/10/08 12:51pm

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PleasurePrinciple said:

I wonder the same thing. Back in the day her voice seemed stronger than today. Most of the time is sounds very weak and "timid". i still love her but I just waish her voice were like it was b4... mad



Its not weak she just doesnt progess her voice and make use of it. Last time she did it was on Show Me
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Reply #10 posted 09/10/08 1:03pm

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Because it was Michael.
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paisleypark4 said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

I wonder the same thing. Back in the day her voice seemed stronger than today. Most of the time is sounds very weak and "timid". i still love her but I just waish her voice were like it was b4... mad



Its not weak she just doesnt progess her voice and make use of it. Last time she did it was on Show Me



I didn't really notice this until I started listening to her debut album. It seems like she sang with more confidence back then than now. Maybe she strained her voice on Scream.
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Reply #12 posted 09/10/08 1:18pm

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she always sound the same.
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Reply #13 posted 09/10/08 1:29pm

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I think she sounds her most powerful here.
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Reply #14 posted 09/10/08 1:31pm

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paisleypark4 said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

I wonder the same thing. Back in the day her voice seemed stronger than today. Most of the time is sounds very weak and "timid". i still love her but I just wish her voice were like it was b4... mad



Its not weak she just doesnt progess her voice and make use of it. Last time she did it was on Show Me

well,w/e is...she sounds even weaker on her per4mances.My friends know Im a big music fan and Jackson fan and after her BET per4mance a couple yrs ago they were like "why the fuck was she whispering" lol redface
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Reply #15 posted 09/10/08 3:11pm

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christopherlala said:

Why doesn't Janet ever sing like she did on Scream?




as in "barely audible"...? because i think that's how she usually sings! sad
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Reply #16 posted 09/10/08 7:22pm

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Oh wow, I was just about to start a thread with the EXACT same title!

I really wish she would sing like this again, the thing I hated about Discipline was the stupid girly whispery vocals. SCREAM it girl!

I think it would have to do with keeping up with MJ's vocals...
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Reply #17 posted 09/10/08 7:42pm

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banks said:

Isn't there an interview when someone ask Janet why they could not hear her on this track and she says she wondered the samething, alluding that her vocals were somehow mixed down... she said she knows when she left the studio she heard herself just fine, but whe the finish product was released it was a diffrent story


I guess they are implying that MJ had something to do with that, no doubt. Always blaming him, but what else is new? I never believed that though. I don't know what Janet or that person is talking about because I can hear Janet fine on "Scream". Vocally, it's one of her best songs to date and many of her fans agree with that. Anyway, Janet may not be the best singer, but she has a sweet, soothing voice. I've always liked her voice. I really just wish she would stop whispering tho.


christopherlala said:



What do you think? Did she steal the show on Scream?


Lets be honest here, Janet kicked Michael's ass on "Scream" lol. I'm a MUCH bigger fan of MJ's than I am of Janet's, but that's the truth. She was so fierce in it, especially in the video. Whenever I watch that video, i'm always like "Michael who"? lol.
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Reply #18 posted 09/10/08 7:46pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

banks said:

Isn't there an interview when someone ask Janet why they could not hear her on this track and she says she wondered the samething, alluding that her vocals were somehow mixed down... she said she knows when she left the studio she heard herself just fine, but whe the finish product was released it was a diffrent story


I guess they are implying that MJ had something to do with that, no doubt. Always blaming him, but what else is new? I never believed that though. I don't know what Janet or that person is talking about because I can hear Janet fine on "Scream". Vocally, it's one of her best songs to date and many of her fans agree with that. Anyway, Janet may not be the best singer, but she has a sweet, soothing voice. I've always liked her voice. I really just wish she would stop whispering tho.


christopherlala said:



What do you think? Did she steal the show on Scream?


Lets be honest here, Janet kicked Michael's ass on "Scream" lol. I'm a MUCH bigger fan of MJ's than I am of Janet's, but that's the truth. She was so fierce in it, especially in the video. Whenever I watch that video, i'm always like "Michael who"? lol.
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Reply #19 posted 09/10/08 9:35pm

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This thread makes me wanna listen to HIStory. lol
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Reply #21 posted 09/11/08 8:22am

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Because she hurt herself trying to actually sing....she needs to stick to the mumbling, whispering, can't understand what she's saying singing that she normally does.
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Cinnamon234 said:

banks said:

Isn't there an interview when someone ask Janet why they could not hear her on this track and she says she wondered the samething, alluding that her vocals were somehow mixed down... she said she knows when she left the studio she heard herself just fine, but whe the finish product was released it was a diffrent story


I guess they are implying that MJ had something to do with that, no doubt. Always blaming him, but what else is new? I never believed that though. I don't know what Janet or that person is talking about because I can hear Janet fine on "Scream". Vocally, it's one of her best songs to date and many of her fans agree with that. Anyway, Janet may not be the best singer, but she has a sweet, soothing voice. I've always liked her voice. I really just wish she would stop whispering tho.


christopherlala said:



What do you think? Did she steal the show on Scream?


Lets be honest here, Janet kicked Michael's ass on "Scream" lol. I'm a MUCH bigger fan of MJ's than I am of Janet's, but that's the truth. She was so fierce in it, especially in the video. Whenever I watch that video, i'm always like "Michael who"? lol.
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yes she was
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Reply #23 posted 09/11/08 3:47pm

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MJ's voice was much stronger on Scream and I used to sometimes like janet's voice on it and get annoyed with it at other times. In recent years, janet has had stronger melodies in her music than michael, even if he has a better voice, but she really did her thing in that video, dance moves and all.

MJ performed it amazing at the HIStory tour, even if it was being lip synched, the routine was good. I can't wait to see Janet do it if it's true that she's performing it on the tour. I only saw tour pics, I don't want to read the setlist, I want to be surprised.
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Reply #24 posted 09/11/08 5:00pm

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dag said:

I think she sounds her most powerful here.


And here.....
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Reply #25 posted 09/11/08 5:05pm

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^^^^^Young Love is the exact song I think of in how she used to project when she was younger and more inexperienced than she seemingly does now.
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Reply #26 posted 09/11/08 5:55pm

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purplesweat said:



Listen to the acapella make me wonder if the music of Scream was overproduced.
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Reply #27 posted 09/11/08 5:56pm

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TonyVanDam said:

purplesweat said:



Listen to the acapella make me wonder if the music of Scream was overproduced.


Of course it was. lol
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Reply #28 posted 09/11/08 5:58pm

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Cinnie said:

TonyVanDam said:



Listen to the acapella make me wonder if the music of Scream was overproduced.


Of course it was. lol

Anything Jam & Lewis did post-1993 is horrendously over-produced.
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Reply #29 posted 09/11/08 6:01pm

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Cinnie said:



Of course it was. lol

Anything Jam & Lewis did post-1993 is horrendously over-produced.


What? I can't hear you over the sword-swiping, glass-breaking, and endless layers of tambourine. neutral
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