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lastdecember

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Further proof that MTV has no relevance anymore(SHOW DETAILS)

Todays awards show is their 25th Anniversary show, and yet, there has been no mention or very little of that in the press. WHY? they have nothing to show for it, they cant even capitalize on this, because they have no status anymore. Todays show will opened by Britney Spears who will NOT PERFORM, she will just make an appearance that is said to be "fun and interesting", Christina Aguilera will perform a new version of "genie in a bottle" that is to be on her Best of set, it is also the only nod to the "anniversary" of the show? Really, performing a song barely 9 years old is your "anniversary" celebration.

Those of you thinking of tuning in dont be surprised to not see much, alot of acts are not there, despite being nominating, due to performing at the Fashion Rocks show and not being able to work it in the schedule (remember when these acts CARED to make the show?) Fasion Rocks airs Tuesday night, in edited form on CBS, and madonna fans get ready to get your HATE on as Rihanna Covers "Vogue", but most of the performances are pretty good, with the exception of maybe Chris Brown's "Lysynching" number.
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Reply #1 posted 09/07/08 3:04pm

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MTV has not been on tv for 35 years - no matter what they try to say.

2008-1981=27
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Reply #2 posted 09/07/08 3:08pm

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Wowugotit said:

MTV has not been on tv for 35 years - no matter what they try to say.

2008-1981=27


25 sorry, typing error, but its a huge surprise that there is almost no mention of it.

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Reply #3 posted 09/07/08 3:09pm

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35th anniversary? what?

i think you mean 25th. and even at that, it's the 25th awards show, not 25 years since the first one.


and they don't mention it because it's geared toward a youth culture and advertising the fact that it's been around for 25 years doesn't mean anything to the kids they're trying to get to watch this.
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Reply #4 posted 09/07/08 3:27pm

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35th anniversary? what?

i think you mean 25th. and even at that, it's the 25th awards show, not 25 years since the first one.


and they don't mention it because it's geared toward a youth culture and advertising the fact that it's been around for 25 years doesn't mean anything to the kids they're trying to get to watch this.


Well they arent getting any audience that they are targeting, MTV awards show has had slumping ratings every year, though they are touting that last year was a 26% rise of an all time low the year before, what they fail to mention is that that rise was due to Britney Spears, the demographic of that 26% rise was 30+ years of age, and after her performance the ratings for the show declined 40% which put them lower than the year before.

Which is why they begged her to open this year so they can "tout" a gain once again, but watch those ratings fall to shit the minute she leaves the stage.
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Reply #5 posted 09/07/08 3:36pm

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lastdecember said:

errant said:

35th anniversary? what?

i think you mean 25th. and even at that, it's the 25th awards show, not 25 years since the first one.


and they don't mention it because it's geared toward a youth culture and advertising the fact that it's been around for 25 years doesn't mean anything to the kids they're trying to get to watch this.


Well they arent getting any audience that they are targeting, MTV awards show has had slumping ratings every year, though they are touting that last year was a 26% rise of an all time low the year before, what they fail to mention is that that rise was due to Britney Spears, the demographic of that 26% rise was 30+ years of age, and after her performance the ratings for the show declined 40% which put them lower than the year before.

Which is why they begged her to open this year so they can "tout" a gain once again, but watch those ratings fall to shit the minute she leaves the stage.
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The same can be said for the other music award shows as well. The Grammys, The BET awards, The SoulTrain and the AMA's ratings have all been in the toilet for the past few years. Why, I think the answer lies, in the type of music that is being produced as well as the artist that are making it. That's the reason why, these shows are so low in the ratings. I remember one could not wait to see who was going to perform, now it is more like..."When is the shit going to end. Dick Clark realized this a few years ago, when he moved the AMA's from Jan to Nov., in the hopes of not only having to compete with the other shows, but he figured that it was thankgiving and more people would be home. It did not do any good.
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shorttrini said:

lastdecember said:



Well they arent getting any audience that they are targeting, MTV awards show has had slumping ratings every year, though they are touting that last year was a 26% rise of an all time low the year before, what they fail to mention is that that rise was due to Britney Spears, the demographic of that 26% rise was 30+ years of age, and after her performance the ratings for the show declined 40% which put them lower than the year before.

Which is why they begged her to open this year so they can "tout" a gain once again, but watch those ratings fall to shit the minute she leaves the stage.
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The same can be said for the other music award shows as well. The Grammys, The BET awards, The SoulTrain and the AMA's ratings have all been in the toilet for the past few years. Why, I think the answer lies, in the type of music that is being produced as well as the artist that are making it. That's the reason why, these shows are so low in the ratings. I remember one could not wait to see who was going to perform, now it is more like..."When is the shit going to end. Dick Clark realized this a few years ago, when he moved the AMA's from Jan to Nov., in the hopes of not only having to compete with the other shows, but he figured that it was thankgiving and more people would be home. It did not do any good.


Exactly, i explained this in the Fashion Rocks event post, that show airs tuesday, but i got a chance to be in attendance, and though most of performances were good, there was no WOW there at all, and there is the issue, all these shows whatever they may be, always get the HYPE machine rolling weeks in advance, whether its a reunion, a duet, an appearance of some sort, they ROLL OUT the HYPE carpet weeks before, did they ever do that before? Does anyone remember the Hype machine before Michael Jacksons moonwalk? of course not. Now true, there wasnt the media you have now, back then, but the only way to build a rep in this business is to do a killer performance, not to hype yourself up and deliver with just OK, and thats what most do now.

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Reply #7 posted 09/07/08 3:52pm

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shorttrini said:

lastdecember said:



Well they arent getting any audience that they are targeting, MTV awards show has had slumping ratings every year, though they are touting that last year was a 26% rise of an all time low the year before, what they fail to mention is that that rise was due to Britney Spears, the demographic of that 26% rise was 30+ years of age, and after her performance the ratings for the show declined 40% which put them lower than the year before.

Which is why they begged her to open this year so they can "tout" a gain once again, but watch those ratings fall to shit the minute she leaves the stage.
[Edited 9/7/08 15:28pm]


The same can be said for the other music award shows as well. The Grammys, The BET awards, The SoulTrain and the AMA's ratings have all been in the toilet for the past few years. Why, I think the answer lies, in the type of music that is being produced as well as the artist that are making it. That's the reason why, these shows are so low in the ratings. I remember one could not wait to see who was going to perform, now it is more like..."When is the shit going to end. Dick Clark realized this a few years ago, when he moved the AMA's from Jan to Nov., in the hopes of not only having to compete with the other shows, but he figured that it was thankgiving and more people would be home. It did not do any good.



I think another problem is that there are just too damn many of them on TV. They used to be an annual event because they were relatively rare. You had the Grammys, the Oscars, the Emmys, and that was it. Then the Golden Globes, the AMA's, the Tonys, etc.

When MTV introduced the VMA's and even their movie awards, they were fresh alternatives to the stodgy standards.

Now you've got what... the world music awards, the bet awards, the naacp image awards, blockbuster, people's choice, nickelodeon's kids choice, divas live, vh1 rock honors, rock n' roll hall of fame, vibe, fashion rocks, and about 8000 other ones that aren't rolling off the top of my head at the moment.

There are just so many of them that NONE of them mean anything anymore. shrug
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Reply #8 posted 09/07/08 4:01pm

Harlepolis

Its their fuckin' bed,,,,might as well lay in it.

Had they shown REAL artists with real stage presence and real singin',,,,people would watch it AND support it too.

People might get fooled but not for too long,,,anything without credibility or substance will lose its flicker sooner than you think.
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/08 4:38pm

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lastdecember said:

Todays show will opened by Britney Spears who will NOT PERFORM, she will just make an appearance that is said to be "fun and interesting"


So, just like last year? biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 09/07/08 4:44pm

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Cinnie said:

lastdecember said:

Todays show will opened by Britney Spears who will NOT PERFORM, she will just make an appearance that is said to be "fun and interesting"


So, just like last year? biggrin

Well, she did get MTV to say "Gimme More." lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/07/08 6:21pm

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well Britney has just won her first Best female Video ever... and this is the 25th anniversary and they are coimg live from the Paramount lot in Cali.... shit looks wack
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Reply #12 posted 09/07/08 6:32pm

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well Britney has just won her first Best female Video ever... and this is the 25th anniversary and they are coimg live from the Paramount lot in Cali.... shit looks wack


30 minutes into this show and heres what i realize...

Rihanna cant sing live still
Sway is a dick
Jamie Foxx needs to chill on this whole "thug" shit, also its cool that him and TI shared a laugh about jail and breaking the law, great image

David Bowie won male video 25 years ago and now Chris Brown did, now you do the math on that shit

This host is fucking annoying and not funny (and i like Brit humour, but he aint got it)

Katy Perry has got some great Legs

What the fuck is Demi Moore doing there? looking for another 9 year old to sleep with?

Jon Norris is still with MTV?

thats it for now

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Reply #13 posted 09/07/08 6:45pm

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i don't know who this "econo-thug" is on the show right now but if you have to censor everything he says, why have him on?

i shouldn't admit it but i've been watching the the troops special on abc...shrug
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Reply #14 posted 09/07/08 6:50pm

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Britney looks great!
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sassybritches said:

i don't know who this "econo-thug" is on the show right now but if you have to censor everything he says, why have him on?

i shouldn't admit it but i've been watching the the troops special on abc...shrug



I changed the channel... I'm now waiting on Janet to perform for the troops
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Reply #16 posted 09/07/08 6:53pm

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banks said:

sassybritches said:

i don't know who this "econo-thug" is on the show right now but if you have to censor everything he says, why have him on?

i shouldn't admit it but i've been watching the the troops special on abc...shrug



I changed the channel... I'm now waiting on Janet to perform for the troops


Im going back and forth between the two shows, and the METS who are bringing it finally

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Reply #17 posted 09/07/08 7:19pm

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banks said:

sassybritches said:

i don't know who this "econo-thug" is on the show right now but if you have to censor everything he says, why have him on?

i shouldn't admit it but i've been watching the the troops special on abc...shrug



I changed the channel... I'm now waiting on Janet to perform for the troops


Janet opened that show.
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Reply #18 posted 09/07/08 7:22pm

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Popularity of this thread kinda says it all about this "award" show.. Hopefully they will stop doing them soon... One can pray, anyway...
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Reply #19 posted 09/07/08 7:25pm

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VoicesCarry said:

banks said:




I changed the channel... I'm now waiting on Janet to perform for the troops


Janet opened that show.


did i miss it?? how was she???
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Reply #20 posted 09/07/08 7:37pm

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wonder505 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Janet opened that show.


did i miss it?? how was she???

amazing! exactly what you would expect from the queen of dance-pop!
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Reply #21 posted 09/07/08 7:38pm

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The stage and the arenas seem to get smaller every year...
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xtina just brought it, though. she betta work it out!!!
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Reply #23 posted 09/07/08 7:42pm

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ok, i haven't watched any of this show but i can rest assured that christina just gave the best show of the night.
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Reply #24 posted 09/07/08 7:45pm

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More things i realized changing back and forth and catching this show


Paramore or whatever they are a Rock Band? Really? Rock?

The producers of this show (if there are any) cant even capitalize on something. Example: Katy Perry has the "so called" "Song of the Summer" and yet they dont show her performance, they let it overlap a commercial?

I hope that Elephant that T Pain rode in on gets loose and tramples that Spencer dick from the Hills or that Chase or Brody guy, thye deserve to die just for those names, as George Carlin would say, those are not REAL names.

that Audrina chick from the Hills has one purpose in life, SEX

Christina Aguilera needs to chill on the eyeliner, she looks like Aubrey from Danity Kane.

Whats with this whole Jonas Brothers thing?

Jordin Sparks is fucking annoying and needs to go already
MTV needs to cancel itself

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Reply #25 posted 09/07/08 8:00pm

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I don't have cable sigh

Did Britney do a number or what?
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Reply #26 posted 09/07/08 8:05pm

wonder505

sassybritches said:

wonder505 said:



did i miss it?? how was she???

amazing! exactly what you would expect from the queen of dance-pop!


cool. hope to catch it on youtube.
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Reply #27 posted 09/07/08 8:09pm

VoicesCarry

LOL @ Xtina trying to be Lady GaGa.
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Reply #28 posted 09/07/08 8:10pm

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sassybritches said:

wonder505 said:



did i miss it?? how was she???

amazing! exactly what you would expect from the queen of dance-pop!


a queen of what?

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Reply #29 posted 09/07/08 8:16pm

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Britney reminded me of 2001. Well done.
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