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Reply #30 posted 09/07/08 12:20am

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estelle81 said:

purplesweat said:

I wanna hear your voices while you're dancing!



She's not doing much dancing in most of that video to be sounding like that and there are breathing techniques that can be learned to help with breath control, I guess she figured nobody would notice if she was half dressed and surrounded by dancers. shrug

That "It's hard to dance and sing at the same time excuse" went out the window when I saw Beyonce and Christina Aguilera performances...both of them do a lot of dancing, in 3 inch heels, and neither of them sound this winded. Hell, even Madonna, who has never been much of a vocalist, can rip a stage apart and sound better than this and she's 50.


She's not dancing much in that part of the video because she's already done the routines, hello?!

Britney's voice was "changed" by Jive records when they decided they wanted her to have a more commercial friendly voice. Before that, she sounded almost the same as Christina in terms of vocal strength and sound.

After a year or so of grooming at the hands of Jive, her voice became what we know today.

There's still evidence of her old/real voice in some early performances, but at the stage this tour was, her voice was beyond repair.

Now, she only really seems to perform well vocally in the studio, where she can do multiple takes and of course has back up and auto tune to help her along.

Since she rebelled from pretty much everyone in her life, I think she started working on strengthening her voice again. If you listen to the clip Rebellion on youtube, her voice is quite deep. Also Let Go, while awkward sounding, still sounds like she wants her old voice back.

Blackout, vocally, is fantastic. I don't know why most complain about how "robotic" it sounds when these are some of the most natural vocals she's recorded. The demos hardly sound different from the end result. She seems to still have her falsetto, have a listen to Break The Ice, her voice sounds great on that track.

I hope she sings live at the VMAs, she hasn't sung live for almost 5 years now shake And her live voice was never what fans fell in love with and has never done anything to dampen her popularity or star power.

I agree Beyonce can dance and sing live but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference in vocal strength between Beyonce and Britney.

As for Christina Aguilera dancing : falloff
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Reply #31 posted 09/07/08 2:37am

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is she actually prforming or just presenting?? i thought this clip was pretty good. is there any album coming out soon? anyone know?? love me some britney. i hope if she does perform that she rocks it and shuts these MF's talking shit about her down.


New album is definitely coming out soon, she's working on it with a huge amount of people including Lady Gaga.

As for the VMAs, she'll definitely be there and is definitely opening the show, it's just being kept secret HOW exactly she's going to open it.



cool i can't wait to see the VMA's tomorrow. i hope she rocks it whatever she does. love me some brit brit yo!
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Reply #32 posted 09/07/08 5:05pm

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She's not dancing much in that part of the video because she's already done the routines, hello?!


That's why I made the comment about voice control by learning proper breathing techniques.

Britney's voice was "changed" by Jive records when they decided they wanted her to have a more commercial friendly voice. Before that, she sounded almost the same as Christina in terms of vocal strength and sound. After a year or so of grooming at the hands of Jive, her voice became what we know today.


I've seen old footage of both Christina and Britney before they hit the big time and they have never sounded anything alike. Anyone with the ability to hear can hear that their vocal strengths and ranges are nothing alike at all. Brit had a very unusual voice as a child, but nothing to throw a party or pee yourself over. The fact that her voice is now hidden by all that cancer stick residue doesn't help any. I never understood why artists smoke. Why destroy your voice? It's your meal ticket. neutral

Now, she only really seems to perform well vocally in the studio, where she can do multiple takes and of course has back up and auto tune to help her along.


True. All those professional producers and audio technicians could make mating cats sound like the Tabernacle choir. That's why studio artists will never compare to live artists to me. It's alot harder to sound good when you have to sing live without the option for multiple takes.

Since she rebelled from pretty much everyone in her life, I think she started working on strengthening her voice again. If you listen to the clip Rebellion on youtube, her voice is quite deep. Also Let Go, while awkward sounding, still sounds like she wants her old voice back.



When Brit rebelled, that's when her life fell apart. The point of rebelling is to take control of your life. She had not a bit of control when she dumped everybody and now she's back to where she started...relying on others to keep her from falling off. If you're going to rebel, you have to be ready to stand on your own two feet, otherwise you'll be a lost and out of control child. She obviously either wasn't ready to jump out of the nest, or she didn't really know how to walk on her own to begin with, because nobody ever taught her how and/or she never took it upon herself to really learn.

Blackout, vocally, is fantastic. I don't know why most complain about how "robotic" it sounds when these are some of the most natural vocals she's recorded. The demos hardly sound different from the end result. She seems to still have her falsetto, have a listen to Break The Ice, her voice sounds great on that track.


The vocals were heavily altered by producers because she was bearly there after she laid them down, not uncommon in the music biz nowadays. She sounds studioed out on the album, which isn't bad, because that's what she is...a studio produced artist.

I hope she sings live at the VMAs, she hasn't sung live for almost 5 years now shake And her live voice was never what fans fell in love with and has never done anything to dampen her popularity or star power.


True. Her fans fell in love with the image and the girl-next-door personality (something that many Brit fanatics argue isn't true). Sadly, 90% of that image was made by Jive...main reason for the rebellion from what I've heard. She either grew out of that image, never really was that person to begin with, or wanted to be someone else. Jive had her image and career mapped out before the ink dried on that contract. Sad, but many artists start to think for themselves at some point which is why many of them start demanding they get more producing, songwriting, and composing freedom. Britney's last album was written, produced, and composed by other people and it's her what 4 or 5 record. Can't demand control if you have to rely on others for the majority of the work.

I agree Beyonce can dance and sing live but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference in vocal strength between Beyonce and Britney.


Yet, you just said that Britney and Christina had a similar vocal strength and sound in the beginning...uhhh, no.

Christina Aguilera
Voice type: Spinto Soprano
Highest note: C7, G#6
Lowest note: C3, D3
Vocal range: 4 octaves (C3-C7)
Longest note: 20 seconds


Beyonce
Voice type: Full Soprano
Highest notes: D6 , E6, possible F6
Lowest notes: C3, D3
Vocal range: (approx) 3.5 octaves (C3-E6)

E6 - A live 'Whoooooh' after singing her hit "Work It Out"
D6 - She hits it in her song "Happy Face"
C6 - During a live performance of "Emotions", Kodak Theatre, 2002
C6 - The highest note in "Emotions" from Destiny's Child Survivor CD
E3- "Dangerously In Love", Grammys, 2004


Britney Spears:
Voice type: Soubrette
Highest note: A5
Lowest note: E3
Vocal range: 2.5 octaves


Info found in this thread: http://prince.org/msg/8/264879

As for Christina Aguilera dancing : falloff


She sure is dancing her ass off here:




Britney is a good performer, I'll give her that, but if she misses her choreography sessions, she's a fish out of water and that was super obvious on last years VMAs. When you're more a dancer than a singer, going to rehearsals is extremely important....and that goes for any artists from Janet and Madonna to Ciara and the Pussy Cat Dolls. If the dance routine is terrible, the outfits are tacky, and you don't have a Mariah Carey or Celine Dion voice, than hope to save the performance is practically non-existent. Brit needs to worry about getting herself 100% on track and free of a guardian and then work on strengthening her relationship with her babies...everything else needs to take a backseat because she's not hurting for money. Comebacks can wait.
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Reply #33 posted 09/07/08 6:39pm

Sdldawn

christina could sing circles around britcunt spears
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Reply #34 posted 09/08/08 7:14am

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im at work and none of you have said what the song is
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Reply #35 posted 09/08/08 9:39pm

purplesweat

paisleypark4 said:

im at work and none of you have said what the song is


If we knew, we'd tell ya!
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Reply #36 posted 09/08/08 9:57pm

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Sdldawn said:

estelle81 said:



Agreed. Everytime I hear people call it a 'comeback', the only thing that pops into my head is, "Comeback? Where the hell did she go?" They must mean a 'comeback to some similance of sanity', because homegirl only recently stopped being a wacked out attention whore a few months ago and that's only because her dad got appointed her guardian and made her calm her ass down, because daddy Spears holds the credit cards now...kudos to the intelligent judge who put this brilliant plan into action, thus saving her life for the sake of her precious little boys. The only way I'd be surprised by a Britney performance at this point is if she actually opens her mouth and sings live, which probably won't ever happen because she sounded like this:



^^And this was before she started blowing more smoke than a chimney at Christmastime. disbelief boxed



voice of an angel!!!!


Tears of laughter...TEARS, I say... smile Voice of the Angel of Death, I suppose.
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Reply #37 posted 09/09/08 7:21am

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I can't stand her voice, but I liked it a lot when she put out her first album and on the track Satisfaction which is probably her best work. I believe smoking screwed up her voice on the second album.
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