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2008 the year ROCK returned...

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #1 posted 09/01/08 8:28am

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"Chinese Democracy - Guns N' Roses" headbang guitar



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Ummm..wait... That never happened...


Silly me. lol
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Reply #2 posted 09/01/08 8:59am

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lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive


can you really say that rock has returned when the combined sales of all of the above is like 30 units?
[Edited 9/1/08 8:59am]
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Reply #3 posted 09/01/08 9:32am

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errant said:

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive


can you really say that rock has returned when the combined sales of all of the above is like 30 units?
[Edited 9/1/08 8:59am]


Well Journey has sold 450,000 with no promotion, Rick Springfield sold enough to give him a top 30 debut which he hadnt had in 20 years, Mpt;ey Crue sold 300,000 to date with no play either, and all are making major money on tour. Sales are useless at this point because of these artists are indie and indie sales dont always count as we know, plus look what is selling now, Fall out boy Gym class heroes and Jonas Brothers, thats what they call ROCK now, those cats coulndt play an instrument or solo if there lives depended on it.
[Edited 9/1/08 9:33am]

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:[quote]Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned

[b]
Extreme- Saudades of Rock
Saudades is a portugues word for missing something or someone in this case missig Rock!
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Reply #5 posted 09/01/08 3:41pm

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mdd said:[quote]

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
Saudades is a portugues word for missing something or someone in this case missig Rock!


Exactly and their album shows that there really hasnt been any real rock going on in the last decade.

As Rick Springfield sings in "Who killed Rock N Roll"
[b]
Rap put the bullet in Rock N Roll's head
Radio Used her and left her for dead

thats sums it up

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:[quote]

mdd said:

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
Saudades is a portugues word for missing something or someone in this case missig Rock!


Exactly and their album shows that there really hasnt been any real rock going on in the last decade.

As Rick Springfield sings in "Who killed Rock N Roll"
[b]
Rap put the bullet in Rock N Roll's head
Radio Used her and left her for dead

thats sums it up

I will be checking on Rick....try to find his album. peace and love!
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Reply #7 posted 09/01/08 4:09pm

lastdecember

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mdd said:

lastdecember said:



Exactly and their album shows that there really hasnt been any real rock going on in the last decade.

As Rick Springfield sings in "Who killed Rock N Roll"

Rap put the bullet in Rock N Roll's head
Radio Used her and left her for dead

thats sums it up

I will be checking on Rick....try to find his album. peace and love!


That track is only downloadable when purchasing the CD and then going to a added feature site, which has asome new video and a 40 minute interview, plus a free download of that song

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #8 posted 09/01/08 4:27pm

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lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive



how are the Extreme and Rick Springfield albums?
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Reply #9 posted 09/01/08 4:54pm

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dancerella said:

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive



how are the Extreme and Rick Springfield albums?


The extreme is amazing, i got it about a month ago, and havent stopped listening. Best tracks are "Interface" "Star" "Peace" and "Last Hour" as for RICK well what can i say, its his best moment, for a 59 year old to sound this fresh and rock this hard, it clearly shows that artists do get better with age, perfect album, good riffs, very catchy, and his band is super tight. Best cuts from RICK though its hard to pick , these are the ones i have played the most. "She", "Warning Shots" "whats victorias secret" "i'll miss that someday" and "Oblivious" but its a perfect album
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Reply #10 posted 09/01/08 8:10pm

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Journey just isn't the same without Steve Perry
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Reply #11 posted 09/02/08 1:37am

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"what's the matter with calamity anyway, right, get the fuck out of my face." Corey from Slipknot


lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive
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Reply #12 posted 09/02/08 5:35am

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u only went and forgot.....
AC/DC rock n roll train
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lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive


But these are all average to terrible bands. And the death of the overblown, overpolished guitar solo was a good thing, IMO.
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MendesCity said:

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive


But these are all average to terrible bands. And the death of the overblown, overpolished guitar solo was a good thing, IMO.


Well thats an opinion, but the thing is none of their playing is overpolished, and clearly none that is on these records. I listened to Extreme's album and Nuno's solo's and what he is playing and he is fucking light years above and beyond anyone out there, he makes Prince like a nobody on the guitar. And overpolished is what is out there now, for about 5 minutes i bought into bands like Nirvana and realized they were doing nothing special, and listening to the Foo Fighters im amazed that people call them gods of rock, i mean really? they are barely an average band at best.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #15 posted 09/02/08 4:39pm

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lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive

Well I'm not familiar with the White Lion, Extreme and Journey albums, but I've heard stuff from the other albums and liked some of it... I especially like the Mötley Crüe album and I was surprised how rockin' the Night Ranger album was.
Rick's album is in general very catchy like alot of his stuff but that "Victoria's Secret" song sounds too much like a re-write of "Jessie's Girl" IMO.

But there are other rock albums you might want to look out for in the coming months..... Queen + Paul Rodgers's Cosmos Rocks (out in mid-September in Europe, in October in USA) and the new AC-DC album which will be released in October as well.
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Reply #16 posted 09/02/08 4:40pm

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Wow, I do like the Racontours album, though
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purplehippieonthe1 said:

lastdecember said:

Something happend to rock throughout the 90's and the 00's, it lost more than its balls, it lost its SOLOS, Remember those things? those guitar and drum solos that stretched the track and gave it life and some sort of heart? the problem is that a whole generation has no clue on what a solo is. Well in 2008 something happend.....rock returned


Extreme- Saudades of Rock
White Lion - Return of the Pride
Night Ranger- Hole in the Sun
Journey- Revealations
Whitesnake
Motley Crue- Saints of Los Angeles
Rick Springfield- Venus in Overdrive

Well I'm not familiar with the White Lion, Extreme and Journey albums, but I've heard stuff from the other albums and liked some of it... I especially like the Mötley Crüe album and I was surprised how rockin' the Night Ranger album was.
Rick's album is in general very catchy like alot of his stuff but that "Victoria's Secret" song sounds too much like a re-write of "Jessie's Girl" IMO.

But there are other rock albums you might want to look out for in the coming months..... Queen + Paul Rodgers's Cosmos Rocks (out in mid-September in Europe, in October in USA) and the new AC-DC album which will be released in October as well.


Def looking for both of those, i'll be getting Queen's import, cant wait till october!!, The Rick single is purposely like that, but thats not the first time he has done that, he did it back in 1982 with " I get excited".

The night ranger blew me away, i never knew they could play that well. The White Lion album is strong, the kick off song on that album is called "Sangre de cristo" and its a blistering 9 minute rock song, very raw. The Motley album is excellent and i was surprised too. Extreme is kick ass just from the playing and the harmonies of Cherone-Bettencourt, to me Extreme are the only band to ever really get what "QUEEN" was about.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:

MendesCity said:



But these are all average to terrible bands. And the death of the overblown, overpolished guitar solo was a good thing, IMO.


Well thats an opinion, but the thing is none of their playing is overpolished, and clearly none that is on these records. I listened to Extreme's album and Nuno's solo's and what he is playing and he is fucking light years above and beyond anyone out there, he makes Prince like a nobody on the guitar. And overpolished is what is out there now, for about 5 minutes i bought into bands like Nirvana and realized they were doing nothing special, and listening to the Foo Fighters im amazed that people call them gods of rock, i mean really? they are barely an average band at best.


Foo Fighters are pretty average, no doubt. But I feel like they're mostly average because they've reached back to those cock-rock cliches that Grohl's former band (who I consider 10 times more "rock" than any of those listed above) were trying to break down. But as you said, it's all opinion. Personally, I find virtuosity pretty overrated.
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lastdecember said:

mdd said:


I will be checking on Rick....try to find his album. peace and love!


That track is only downloadable when purchasing the CD and then going to a added feature site, which has asome new video and a 40 minute interview, plus a free download of that song

Thanks for the info!
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MendesCity said:

lastdecember said:



Well thats an opinion, but the thing is none of their playing is overpolished, and clearly none that is on these records. I listened to Extreme's album and Nuno's solo's and what he is playing and he is fucking light years above and beyond anyone out there, he makes Prince like a nobody on the guitar. And overpolished is what is out there now, for about 5 minutes i bought into bands like Nirvana and realized they were doing nothing special, and listening to the Foo Fighters im amazed that people call them gods of rock, i mean really? they are barely an average band at best.


Foo Fighters are pretty average, no doubt. But I feel like they're mostly average because they've reached back to those cock-rock cliches that Grohl's former band (who I consider 10 times more "rock" than any of those listed above) were trying to break down. But as you said, it's all opinion. Personally, I find virtuosity pretty overrated.


I dont think Nirvana were even "wanting" to be a rock band, Kurt was a huge REM fan so he was more into that, not that REM isnt rock but it was far different kind of rock than what he was doing in Nirvana. Also i dont buy into the whole "tearing down the norm" this was the same argument made for Guns N Roses and honestly, GNR is the most overrated band in history.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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I heard Def Leppard returned this year aswell? I do have some of their recent stuff and its shocking. Luckily I bought them in skips. May need a re-listen, but honestly, they lost it big time after "retroactive" (though I must actually hear "slang", as I do own it, as its meant to be a bit underated)
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Theres been some good rock albums so far this year. I've yet to hear the White Lion or Night Ranger albums but out of all the others..ie Motley Crue, Journey, Whitesnake, Def Leppard and Extreme..the Whitesnake album is the pick of the bunch. It really is very strong. The only turkey out of them is Def Leppard. They're my girlfriends favorite band and shes barely plays it. The songwriting is poor and the whole thing is really insubstantial.
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MendesCity said:

lastdecember said:



Well thats an opinion, but the thing is none of their playing is overpolished, and clearly none that is on these records. I listened to Extreme's album and Nuno's solo's and what he is playing and he is fucking light years above and beyond anyone out there, he makes Prince like a nobody on the guitar. And overpolished is what is out there now, for about 5 minutes i bought into bands like Nirvana and realized they were doing nothing special, and listening to the Foo Fighters im amazed that people call them gods of rock, i mean really? they are barely an average band at best.


Foo Fighters are pretty average, no doubt. But I feel like they're mostly average because they've reached back to those cock-rock cliches that Grohl's former band (who I consider 10 times more "rock" than any of those listed above) were trying to break down. But as you said, it's all opinion. Personally, I find virtuosity pretty overrated.


Foo Fighters were a great rock band for their first two albums. They've become average and the irony is they're huge.
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lastdecember said:

dancerella said:




how are the Extreme and Rick Springfield albums?


The extreme is amazing, i got it about a month ago, and havent stopped listening. Best tracks are "Interface" "Star" "Peace" and "Last Hour" as for RICK well what can i say, its his best moment, for a 59 year old to sound this fresh and rock this hard, it clearly shows that artists do get better with age, perfect album, good riffs, very catchy, and his band is super tight. Best cuts from RICK though its hard to pick , these are the ones i have played the most. "She", "Warning Shots" "whats victorias secret" "i'll miss that someday" and "Oblivious" but its a perfect album
[Edited 9/1/08 16:56pm]


I have the Extreme album and the playing is superb but what has happened to Cherones voice? I remember when he fronted Van Halen and i couldn't believe it was him. He can still sing a great ballad though.
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Reply #25 posted 09/03/08 8:13pm

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So these are the rock bands of today? falloff

Is it the end of the world as we know it?

Remember when Rock was a bad word and the music was stuff your parents hated?

ACDC is the only band I see mentioned that may still do that.

How about the Grammy award winning band Slipknot? How's that grab you?

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