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Janets opening act is... Watch this to find out ^ Janet gives attitude to JD 
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 at the last thing she says | |
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Cinnie said: at the last thing she saysIf only she substituted "here" for "my life," all would be right in the world. | |
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I can't believe she still has opening acts and I normally can't stand them but I'll definitely take him. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Finally Madison Square Garden is on the list!  | |
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this is why i get annoyed with these acts, you charge big $$$ then hit us with a 90minute show sometimes 2 hours and give us opening acts?? I can see if you have 2-3 albums, but after that, theres no reason for an opener "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: this is why i get annoyed with these acts, you charge big $$$ then hit us with a 90minute show sometimes 2 hours and give us opening acts?? I can see if you have 2-3 albums, but after that, theres no reason for an opener
Yeah, she doesn't need an opening act at this point. I'm surprised. I'm also surprised at how much JD is involved. Is he her unofficial manager? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: this is why i get annoyed with these acts, you charge big $$$ then hit us with a 90minute show sometimes 2 hours and give us opening acts?? I can see if you have 2-3 albums, but after that, theres no reason for an opener
Yeah, she doesn't need an opening act at this point. I'm surprised. I'm also surprised at how much JD is involved. Is he her unofficial manager? opening acts ruin shows like this for me. When i went to see MC on the MIMI tour a few times, i was psyched for her and her amazing look on that tour and then i get hit with Sean paul or Busta Rhymes for 45 minutes which seemed like 3 hours. All i know is if i paid 100-200 bucks for Prince or Elton John or whomever that commands that much $$ and they hit me with some new jack id want half the money back "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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she shoulda said that to the channel 2 commentator that went off on her in that interview w/Tyler Perry.... (that last part) | |
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who is the opening act? I can't sit through another stupid jd clip | |
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lastdecember said: JackieBlue said: Yeah, she doesn't need an opening act at this point. I'm surprised. I'm also surprised at how much JD is involved. Is he her unofficial manager? opening acts ruin shows like this for me. When i went to see MC on the MIMI tour a few times, i was psyched for her and her amazing look on that tour and then i get hit with Sean paul or Busta Rhymes for 45 minutes which seemed like 3 hours. All i know is if i paid 100-200 bucks for Prince or Elton John or whomever that commands that much $$ and they hit me with some new jack id want half the money back I sat down the whole time Sean Paul was on. I don't mind showing up late or not going in for an opening act. Every now and then it'll be a great opener like Tony Toni Tone or Cyndi Lauper but other than that I hate 'em. When the house lights go down the only person I want to see is the person I paid out the ass for. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: opening acts ruin shows like this for me. When i went to see MC on the MIMI tour a few times, i was psyched for her and her amazing look on that tour and then i get hit with Sean paul or Busta Rhymes for 45 minutes which seemed like 3 hours. All i know is if i paid 100-200 bucks for Prince or Elton John or whomever that commands that much $$ and they hit me with some new jack id want half the money back I sat down the whole time Sean Paul was on. I don't mind showing up late or not going in for an opening act. Every now and then it'll be a great opener like Tony Toni Tone or Cyndi Lauper but other than that I hate 'em. When the house lights go down the only person I want to see is the person I paid out the ass for. Yeah i agree, and then there are events that are set up that way, like when Chicago tours with Hall and Oates or Earth Wind and Fire, or Styx tours with REO etc...its billed as co-headliners and thats really a different story. But if im paying 125 bucks for Mariah, i dont want 85 minutes of her and 45 minutes of Sean Paul, as much as i love her and her look on that tour, i felt let down when i remembered all the money spent getting near the front of shows. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Hmm... I don't quite understand the bitching about the support act... a concert ticket will cost what it costs and a show of the main attracts will have the same length, regardless of there being a support act or not, so I view the support act as a added value... sure, sometimes it's annoying, because you don't care about the support act... but sometimes you get... I don't know... Usher, Cyndi Lauper, Brian May, Faith no More, AC/DC, Megadeth, Offspring, Slipknot, Chaka Khan, die Ärzte.... or maybe a unkown band you turn out to like!
And if you know in advance that you don't like the support you still might have a chance to show up late! I'm very happy with LL Cool J as the support! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Hmm... I don't quite understand the bitching about the support act... a concert ticket will cost what it costs and a show of the main attracts will have the same length, regardless of there being a support act or not, so I view the support act as a added value... sure, sometimes it's annoying, because you don't care about the support act... but sometimes you get... I don't know... Usher, Cyndi Lauper, Brian May, Faith no More, AC/DC, Megadeth, Offspring, Slipknot, Chaka Khan, die Ärzte.... or maybe a unkown band you turn out to like!
And if you know in advance that you don't like the support you still might have a chance to show up late! I'm very happy with LL Cool J as the support! Usher was cool when he opned for Janet. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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PatrickS77 said: Hmm... I don't quite understand the bitching about the support act... a concert ticket will cost what it costs and a show of the main attracts will have the same length, regardless of there being a support act or not, so I view the support act as a added value... sure, sometimes it's annoying, because you don't care about the support act... but sometimes you get... I don't know... Usher, Cyndi Lauper, Brian May, Faith no More, AC/DC, Megadeth, Offspring, Slipknot, Chaka Khan, die Ärzte.... or maybe a unkown band you turn out to like!
And if you know in advance that you don't like the support you still might have a chance to show up late! I'm very happy with LL Cool J as the support! Not always true, alot of bands cut their sets due to opening acts. Alot of times the opener is added because the artist cant go for 2+ hours. Mariah did a show upstate on her last tour where she played 65 minutes and had 2 openers who played close to half as long as her? This is someone with 10+ albums. There is a difference between openers and co-headliners like i was saying, big difference actually. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I wouldn't say support acts are added in order to cut time from the main act... it is the usual set up to have a support act... it kinda goes against the norm to go out without support acts! It's kinda considered cheap to not have one! Of course it is also cheap to, like in that case Mariah, have 2 support acts and only play 65 mins! Personally I've never been to a concert (and I've been to over 200) where the main act was that cheap.... most of the times I've been to gigs with 2 support acts the main act still played for at least 2 hours! And I did see bands who had a support act on certain dates, but didn't have one on other dates and still they played the same show, same length... so it is added value!
And if a act is physically not able to do 2 hours anymore, but still insists on his/her usual pay check then I also view it as a added value to at least have a good support act! ehuffnsd said: Usher was cool when he opned for Janet. Yeah, I liked his show too! [Edited 8/31/08 12:48pm] | |
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will you get the fuck outta here pls? love it! I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Like I stated, sometimes it's great but more often than not, I don't need it. You can feel like your getting extra value if the main act is sure to do a nice amount of time on stage. But if it's someone you don't care for or isn't a good performer and they're on stage for a long time, it's torture. Especially the time included to break down the set and prepare for the main act.
Most of the artists I saw with no opening acts were the heavyweights. But I don't mind seeing LL Cool J though. Actually, I'm thrilled! [Edited 8/31/08 12:57pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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PatrickS77 said: I wouldn't say support acts are added in order to cut time from the main act... it is the usual set up to have a support act... it kinda goes against the norm to go out without support acts! It's kinda considered cheap to not have one! Of course it is also cheap to, like in that case Mariah, have 2 support acts and only play 65 mins! Personally I've never been to a concert (and I've been to over 200) where the main act was that cheap.... most of the times I've been to gigs with 2 support acts the main act still played for at least 2 hours! And I did see bands who had a support act on certain dates, but didn't have one on other dates and still they played the same show, same length... so it is added value!
And if a act is physically not able to do 2 hours anymore, but still insists on his/her usual pay check then I also view it as a added value to at least have a good support act! ehuffnsd said: Usher was cool when he opned for Janet. Yeah, I liked his show too! [Edited 8/31/08 12:48pm] True. Ive been to a million shows, 73 just Prince, and im more into seeing the artist i paid for, i understand the opening act theory and all that, what i dislike alot of times is getting tricked into an artist, meaning not billing an opener, and finding out when you get there that the artist you wanna see is not going on till 9:30 especially at GA shows, Duran Duran did this one year on their unplugged tour where they had 3 openers and then did a 60 minute acoustic set, which is not in character for Duran, but just saying keeping things like that a secret sucks. Co-headliners is a different thing because your getting the show they would do normally, just getting a more seasoned bill. Hall and Oates and Chicago went out together and did 2+ hours each then did some stuff together, other bands like Journey do the same, usually with Reo or Styx. So there is a difference. Im not knocking Janets choice because LL is old school, and she culd have really had someone shitty like akon open just to get asses in seats. And i can guarantee that almost everyone praising Janets opening choice are gonna be bitching come the day after the shows. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: PatrickS77 said: I wouldn't say support acts are added in order to cut time from the main act... it is the usual set up to have a support act... it kinda goes against the norm to go out without support acts! It's kinda considered cheap to not have one! Of course it is also cheap to, like in that case Mariah, have 2 support acts and only play 65 mins! Personally I've never been to a concert (and I've been to over 200) where the main act was that cheap.... most of the times I've been to gigs with 2 support acts the main act still played for at least 2 hours! And I did see bands who had a support act on certain dates, but didn't have one on other dates and still they played the same show, same length... so it is added value!
And if a act is physically not able to do 2 hours anymore, but still insists on his/her usual pay check then I also view it as a added value to at least have a good support act! Yeah, I liked his show too! [Edited 8/31/08 12:48pm] True. Ive been to a million shows, 73 just Prince, and im more into seeing the artist i paid for, i understand the opening act theory and all that, what i dislike alot of times is getting tricked into an artist, meaning not billing an opener, and finding out when you get there that the artist you wanna see is not going on till 9:30 especially at GA shows, Duran Duran did this one year on their unplugged tour where they had 3 openers and then did a 60 minute acoustic set, which is not in character for Duran, but just saying keeping things like that a secret sucks. Co-headliners is a different thing because your getting the show they would do normally, just getting a more seasoned bill. Hall and Oates and Chicago went out together and did 2+ hours each then did some stuff together, other bands like Journey do the same, usually with Reo or Styx. So there is a difference. Im not knocking Janets choice because LL is old school, and she culd have really had someone shitty like akon open just to get asses in seats. And i can guarantee that almost everyone praising Janets opening choice are gonna be bitching come the day after the shows. You can guarantee 'cause you think he's going to suck OR because you think her show will be short? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Like I stated, sometimes it's great but more often than not, I don't need it. You can feel like your getting extra value if the main act is sure to do a nice amount of time on stage. But if it's someone you don't care for or isn't a good performer and they're on stage for a long time, it's torture. Especially the time included to break down the set and prepare for the main act.
Most of the artists I saw with no opening acts were the heavyweights. But I don't mind seeing LL Cool J though. Actually, I'm thrilled! [Edited 8/31/08 12:57pm] Its about 25% that i have seen or less that have had opening acts. the matching of LL and Janet is a good one, same era, understandable. What i dont like is when someone like Mariah throws in Sean Paul just to keep people happy or whoever is the hot star at the moment to get extra people there. Sorry but that is "duping" people as oppsoed to giving them a show to remember. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: JackieBlue said: Like I stated, sometimes it's great but more often than not, I don't need it. You can feel like your getting extra value if the main act is sure to do a nice amount of time on stage. But if it's someone you don't care for or isn't a good performer and they're on stage for a long time, it's torture. Especially the time included to break down the set and prepare for the main act.
Most of the artists I saw with no opening acts were the heavyweights. But I don't mind seeing LL Cool J though. Actually, I'm thrilled! [Edited 8/31/08 12:57pm] Its about 25% that i have seen or less that have had opening acts. the matching of LL and Janet is a good one, same era, understandable. What i dont like is when someone like Mariah throws in Sean Paul just to keep people happy or whoever is the hot star at the moment to get extra people there. Sorry but that is "duping" people as oppsoed to giving them a show to remember. I know you're hot with Mariah right now and you know I love her but I agree with you 100% on her show and Sean Paul.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: True. Ive been to a million shows, 73 just Prince, and im more into seeing the artist i paid for, i understand the opening act theory and all that, what i dislike alot of times is getting tricked into an artist, meaning not billing an opener, and finding out when you get there that the artist you wanna see is not going on till 9:30 especially at GA shows, Duran Duran did this one year on their unplugged tour where they had 3 openers and then did a 60 minute acoustic set, which is not in character for Duran, but just saying keeping things like that a secret sucks. Co-headliners is a different thing because your getting the show they would do normally, just getting a more seasoned bill. Hall and Oates and Chicago went out together and did 2+ hours each then did some stuff together, other bands like Journey do the same, usually with Reo or Styx. So there is a difference. Im not knocking Janets choice because LL is old school, and she culd have really had someone shitty like akon open just to get asses in seats. And i can guarantee that almost everyone praising Janets opening choice are gonna be bitching come the day after the shows. You can guarantee 'cause you think he's going to suck OR because you think her show will be short? I honestly think her show is gonna be short and people will be pissed. Just a vibe i have, i dont think he will be bad, i think he will be good, i saw him once at bb kings with a band and everything and he kicks ass. My vibe from Janet is alot of medleys, and a 90 minute show maybe a little longer. But for those going i hope its not. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Why is she acting like such a bitch? Um, okay. I don't hear anybody sweating her new tour like that. LL Cool J? Bleh. Is the tour's setlist out? love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: Its about 25% that i have seen or less that have had opening acts. the matching of LL and Janet is a good one, same era, understandable. What i dont like is when someone like Mariah throws in Sean Paul just to keep people happy or whoever is the hot star at the moment to get extra people there. Sorry but that is "duping" people as oppsoed to giving them a show to remember. I know you're hot with Mariah right now and you know I love her but I agree with you 100% on her show and Sean Paul. I love MC but she is really showing laziness, that tour was great and she was looking better than ever and than she ever will again IMO. But i left the show thinking "if only", and thats my issue with her. I mean what would be so BAD about coming out for a half hour in the beginning of the show with her and a piano player and pounding out some classics she never does, and then doing her "sexy" side 90 minute show after that. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Scorpion said: Why is she acting like such a bitch? Um, okay. I don't hear anybody sweating her new tour like that. LL Cool J? Bleh. Is the tour's setlist out?
Don't know if it's official but Badu had a thread about it: http://prince.org/msg/8/280676 Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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lastdecember said: True. Ive been to a million shows, 73 just Prince, and im more into seeing the artist i paid for, i understand the opening act theory and all that, what i dislike alot of times is getting tricked into an artist, meaning not billing an opener, and finding out when you get there that the artist you wanna see is not going on till 9:30 especially at GA shows, Duran Duran did this one year on their unplugged tour where they had 3 openers and then did a 60 minute acoustic set, which is not in character for Duran, but just saying keeping things like that a secret sucks.
Well, of course that sucks, playing so short... but usually you can at least find out if there is going to be a support act! So you can arrive accordingly... if the venue is seated or you don't care about standing in the front! Co-headliners is a different thing because your getting the show they would do normally, just getting a more seasoned bill. Hall and Oates and Chicago went out together and did 2+ hours each then did some stuff together, other bands like Journey do the same, usually with Reo or Styx. So there is a difference. Im not knocking Janets choice because LL is old school, and she culd have really had someone shitty like akon open just to get asses in seats.
Of course... that's a totally different story! But in most of the cases, also when it's not a co-headlining, but just support and main act thing, you also get the show they would normally do! lastdecember said: Its about 25% that i have seen or less that have had opening acts.
Hmm... maybe 25 % or maybe even less of the concerts I have seen didn't have a support act... dunno, maybe support acts are also more common in the rock world! What i dont like is when someone like Mariah throws in Sean Paul just to keep people happy or whoever is the hot star at the moment to get extra people there. Sorry but that is "duping" people as oppsoed to giving them a show to remember.
From the artists point of view it obviously makes sense to throw in a support act that broadens the audience, so more people will come to see the show! lastdecember said: I honestly think her show is gonna be short and people will be pissed.
Hmm, well... usually her shows are about 2 hours when they are edited down.. of course now shes 7 years older, so we'll see if she still has the stamina, but I don't think we will get a cheapo 65 min show.... I think she still will be close to 2 hours! Especially with her goal of playing most of her singles! But anyway... even if her show is only 100 mins... at least there will be a cool support act, which I'm very much looking forward to see! | |
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omg
thank u 4 this. *sweet penny voice* "Jermaine... *pissed Justice voice* will u get the fuck outta here" | |
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PleasurePrinciple said: omg
thank u 4 this. *sweet penny voice* "Jermaine... *pissed Justice voice* will u get the fuck outta here"
forreal I haven't seen that much anger from her since the character of Justice! | |
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OH my goosh she is hilarious. Janet gets attitude sometimes. But i can imagine how annoying JD must be.
Cause he seems annoying. NO one has the right to call janet a B*** and its because EVERY GIRL has got smart/attitudy with their boyfriend at one point. |
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