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Reply #30 posted 09/03/08 5:31pm

Abdul

KRS
The Furious Five
The Treachorus Three
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Run DMC..... Pretty much any act from the start to about 1998 when Hip Hop started changing...
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Reply #31 posted 09/03/08 6:40pm

Cinnie

Abdul said:

Pretty much any act from the start to about 1998 when Hip Hop started changing...


yeah we started having rappers who barked like dogs as their gimmick, over the worst synth beats imaginable
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Reply #32 posted 09/03/08 6:48pm

Lammastide

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KRSONE and Rakim remain my all-time favorite MCs. I'm not so sure about DJs and producers.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #33 posted 09/03/08 7:49pm

phunkdaddy

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Tribe Called Quest(Q tip)
Common
Brand Nubian(Grand Puba)
The Roots(Black Thought)
DeLaSoul
Rakim
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #34 posted 09/03/08 8:01pm

thekidsgirl

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Run DMC
Missy Elliot
Gym Class Heroes
Mos Def
Jay-Z
The Fugees
Outkast
Lil Kim
If you will, so will I
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Reply #35 posted 09/03/08 8:01pm

phunkdaddy

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vainandy said:

The ones that could actually throwdown and weren't a bunch of dull dead asses. Folks like.....

Egyptian Lover
Soul Sonic Force
Felix and Jarvis
Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde
Divine Sounds
Twilight 22
Pretty Tony
Freestyle
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
The Sequence
Run DMC
Rockmaster Scott and the Dynamic Three
LA Dream Team
JJ Fad
Pretty Tony
Sir Mix-A-Lot
Luke
2 Live Crew
MC Hammer
Oaktown 357
C & C Music Factory
Tag Team
Duice
Quad City DJs
69 Boyz
Dis N Dat


Oh damn vain i can only go with Whodini, Grandmaster Flash, and Run DMC from
this list. You basically have a bunch of one hit wonders on this list. I hated that Miami shit like tag team, 2 live crew, 69 boyz. It was all bullshit to me. Yeah they may have gotten people on the dance floor for 15 minutes but they were weak ass rappers. Hell i can get on the mike and say let me see you ride that donkey donkey about 15 times to a fast beat but it still sounds like shit. Your ass would get creamed in New York City for playing that bullshit. lol
Man i won't even start on MC Hammer. You often talk about rappers who don't have talent because they can't create their own music. Most good rappers cleverly sample from others with dope ass rhymes. MC Hacker or whatever took the whole damn groove and ran with it much like P. Shitty. See Hammer's Prey or You can't touch this. Hammer was a romper room rapper.
I guess your taste in hip hop is different from some others who came up in our
generation.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #36 posted 09/04/08 8:32am

vainandy

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phunkdaddy said:

vainandy said:

The ones that could actually throwdown and weren't a bunch of dull dead asses. Folks like.....

Egyptian Lover
Soul Sonic Force
Felix and Jarvis
Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde
Divine Sounds
Twilight 22
Pretty Tony
Freestyle
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
Whodini
Sugarhill Gang
The Sequence
Run DMC
Rockmaster Scott and the Dynamic Three
LA Dream Team
JJ Fad
Pretty Tony
Sir Mix-A-Lot
Luke
2 Live Crew
MC Hammer
Oaktown 357
C & C Music Factory
Tag Team
Duice
Quad City DJs
69 Boyz
Dis N Dat


Oh damn vain i can only go with Whodini, Grandmaster Flash, and Run DMC from
this list. You basically have a bunch of one hit wonders on this list. I hated that Miami shit like tag team, 2 live crew, 69 boyz. It was all bullshit to me. Yeah they may have gotten people on the dance floor for 15 minutes but they were weak ass rappers. Hell i can get on the mike and say let me see you ride that donkey donkey about 15 times to a fast beat but it still sounds like shit. Your ass would get creamed in New York City for playing that bullshit. lol
Man i won't even start on MC Hammer. You often talk about rappers who don't have talent because they can't create their own music. Most good rappers cleverly sample from others with dope ass rhymes. MC Hacker or whatever took the whole damn groove and ran with it much like P. Shitty. See Hammer's Prey or You can't touch this. Hammer was a romper room rapper.
I guess your taste in hip hop is different from some others who came up in our
generation.


Oh, I agree with you on the Miami bass music. I liked it but after awhile, it all got to sounding the same. I think Luke is still making music today but I stopped buying it because it all started sounding the same. But then again, the Miami bass music all started sounding the same with me when house music (the only other good music of the 1990s) started getting less and less black and more and more European which took out any funkiness in it and turned it into trance, techno, or whatever they are calling it these days. After house music disappeared, that means that Miami bass was all I had to listen to and listening to only one thing will definately get boring after awhile when there is nothing else to turn to. As for all that slow ass shit hop that was on the radio and slow ass adult contemporary to turn to, I grew up on steak and I refuse to lower my standards to potted meat. I also grew up jamming and I be damned if I'm going to accept some slow ass music which is talked over by a bunch of ignorant wannabe hard thugs but their tempo is a sissified Barbara Streisand tempo. That shit would have been laughed out of the place back in the early 1980s.

As for the early 80s groups such as Soul Sonic Force or Twilight 22, back when we were listening to it, we really weren't paying attention to or even cared that it was called rap. We simply thought of it as funk that had rapping over it rather than singing, which is what it was. So the point is, it's not that I consider it such great rap, I actually consider it funk and when rap is no longer funk, get rid of it. Actually, if anything is no longer funk, get rid of it. lol I don't give a damn about how rap turned into a new genre of it's own called shit hop. Shit hop ain't funky, but what's worse, whatever funk that was left over after Shitney Houston came on the scene and wasn't killed by her, got snuffed out and killed by shit hop with it's cheap ass. And what's even worse, is shit hop keeps funk or anything else out, so it really needs to go.

As for MC Hammer, I understand what you are saying fully and I agree. I'm much more for real music than I am for sampling. However, if you are going to sample, sample something good. Don't sample something slow and boring as hell. Sample something that will get the asses moving. MC Hammer was definately doing that. He was sampling Rick James and wasn't slowing the tempo down either. These shit hoppers are sampling slow songs and slowing the tempo down even slower. I just can't understand why people, especially people my age, will accept an era where absolutely nothing fast is being made...I mean nothing. It's fucking rediculous. It's like going back to the classical music days.

So to make a long story short, when it comes to music, if you can't dance or fuck to it, don't make it....period. I don't need no midtempo head bobbing shit because the only head bobbing I want to see is someone going down on my dick. Now, if these thugs that are making this head bobbing music want to go down, they can come on. If not, they need to pack up their so-called music and go back to their little corner where they used to sell drugs. lol
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Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #37 posted 09/04/08 8:58am

novabrkr

Tricky
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Reply #38 posted 09/04/08 6:41pm

phunkdaddy

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vainandy said:



Oh, I agree with you on the Miami bass music. I liked it but after awhile, it all got to sounding the same. I think Luke is still making music today but I stopped buying it because it all started sounding the same. But then again, the Miami bass music all started sounding the same with me when house music (the only other good music of the 1990s) started getting less and less black and more and more European which took out any funkiness in it and turned it into trance, techno, or whatever they are calling it these days. After house music disappeared, that means that Miami bass was all I had to listen to and listening to only one thing will definately get boring after awhile when there is nothing else to turn to. As for all that slow ass shit hop that was on the radio and slow ass adult contemporary to turn to, I grew up on steak and I refuse to lower my standards to potted meat. I also grew up jamming and I be damned if I'm going to accept some slow ass music which is talked over by a bunch of ignorant wannabe hard thugs but their tempo is a sissified Barbara Streisand tempo. That shit would have been laughed out of the place back in the early 1980s.

As for the early 80s groups such as Soul Sonic Force or Twilight 22, back when we were listening to it, we really weren't paying attention to or even cared that it was called rap. We simply thought of it as funk that had rapping over it rather than singing, which is what it was. So the point is, it's not that I consider it such great rap, I actually consider it funk and when rap is no longer funk, get rid of it. Actually, if anything is no longer funk, get rid of it. lol I don't give a damn about how rap turned into a new genre of it's own called shit hop. Shit hop ain't funky, but what's worse, whatever funk that was left over after Shitney Houston came on the scene and wasn't killed by her, got snuffed out and killed by shit hop with it's cheap ass. And what's even worse, is shit hop keeps funk or anything else out, so it really needs to go.

As for MC Hammer, I understand what you are saying fully and I agree. I'm much more for real music than I am for sampling. However, if you are going to sample, sample something good. Don't sample something slow and boring as hell. Sample something that will get the asses moving. MC Hammer was definately doing that. He was sampling Rick James and wasn't slowing the tempo down either. These shit hoppers are sampling slow songs and slowing the tempo down even slower. I just can't understand why people, especially people my age, will accept an era where absolutely nothing fast is being made...I mean nothing. It's fucking rediculous. It's like going back to the classical music days.

So to make a long story short, when it comes to music, if you can't dance or fuck to it, don't make it....period. I don't need no midtempo head bobbing shit because the only head bobbing I want to see is someone going down on my dick. Now, if these thugs that are making this head bobbing music want to go down, they can come on. If not, they need to pack up their so-called music and go back to their little corner where they used to sell drugs. lol
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Yes this is the case with hip hop these days. The genre is kind of tired now
particularly the stuff that's being played on the radio. There is a old school
fresh fest that is coming to my area in october featuring whodini, doug e. fresh, naughty by nature, etc.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #39 posted 09/04/08 7:17pm

DirtyChris

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CAM'RON

without a doubt
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #40 posted 09/04/08 7:19pm

DirtyChris

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[there used to be some
really fly pics of Killa Cam
here & I don't know what happened]


sad
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"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #41 posted 09/04/08 7:24pm

TRON

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novabrkr said:

Tricky

Preach!
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Reply #42 posted 09/06/08 10:30pm

estelle81

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Ludacris. Love me some Luda. mushy
Prince Rogers Nelson
Sunrise: June 7, 1958
Sunset: April 21, 2016
~My Heart Loudly Weeps

"My Creativity Is My Life." ~ Prince

Life is merely a dress rehearsal for eternity.
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Reply #43 posted 09/06/08 10:34pm

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graecophilos said:

does anyone like Vanilla Ice? Queen sampled from one of his songs!



No. Vanilla Ice sampled Queen's song "Under Pressure"
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Reply #44 posted 09/07/08 7:23am

CREEP

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