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Reply #90 posted 09/01/08 8:57am

midnightmover

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- Corey Feldman & MJ in their underwear in a hot tub together:
Came from a direct live interview on the Howard Stern Show! Howard asked Corey if it was true in he told Martin Bashir that he was in a hot tub with MJ and you two were in your underear?? Corey was in shock and said "How did you find that out!" & then admitted that it was true and he did say he said that in a never shown part of his Bashir interview.

- 1995 MJ GAVE WINE to 13 year old Frank Tyson LAY IN BED TOGETHER as MJ tells him GRAPHIC SEX Stories!

http://www.contactmusic.c...%20a%20kid

MICHAEL JACKSON - JACKSON'S AIDE ADMITS HE SLEPT WITH THE POP STAR AS A KID

One of MICHAEL JACKSON's closest aides has revealed he too slept in bed and drank wine with the troubled superstar.

FRANK TYSON has been ordered to testify before the Grand Jury in Jackson's child molestation case, following claims that he was among the King of Pop's assistants who kept the accuser's family at NEVERLAND against their will.

And, in an exclusive interview with American TV scandal show CELEBRITY JUSTICE, Tyson reveals stunning new details about underage drinking and sleepovers that could prove pivotal in the child molestation case against the 45-year-old singer.

In a 45-minute phone interview conducted yesterday morning (12APR04), Tyson told TV journalist HARVEY LEVIN he has known Jackson since he was 13.

The interview will air today (13APR04), but Celebrity Justice spokeswoman LISA PHILLIPS says, "Tyson says he and Jackson, while in bed, would frequently have graphic sexual conversations about women, but was quick to add that Jackson never laid a hand on him.

"Tyson also admitted to Levin that, while underage, he occasionally drank wine with Jackson. Tyson claims he was the one who introduced Jackson to wine but that it was Jackson's idea to drink from soda cans, so that no one would know the singer was consuming alcohol.

"Tyson told Levin he believes Jackson is straight and went on to reveal that the singer has been secretly seeing the same woman for years. He told Levin that when he was a Jackson employee, he often arranged liaisons between the two."

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family.

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Spin it !! lol Spin it !! Spin it !! Spin it !! Come On lol You fools totally crack me up with your points of view!

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Explain to all how a Elephant can hang off the side of a cliff with it's tail tied to a daisy without falling.

rolleyes

You need to check out some of the excuses they've got for his poor live vocals and lip synching. You'll be rolling around on the floor. My favorite one is that the record company forced him to use the worse microphones on the Dangerous Tour so that he would sound bad no matter how beautifully he sung. lol I'm not making that up. One of these fools seriously said that. The same excuse was trotted out for his WMAs fiasco in 2006. Superstars just can't get good microphones these days. lol Oh, and he lip synches so that he doesn't have to go through the strain of memorizing the words. Because memorizing words is a superhuman thing that even the mighty MJ can't be expected to do. lol
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Reply #91 posted 09/01/08 9:00am

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dag said:


All that this article proves to me is that MJ is STRAIGHT and if he is straight I don´t understand why he´d wanna molest boys.

Drinking wine with him while being underage and talking about woman might not have been the best behaviour, but he could have testified against him in court and say that. I am not sure if he did, but if he did, he sure would not help Mike, yet still Mike won the case. It case was closely watched by the media, the transcripts are available, so the jury could not mess around and let a criminal walk away. They let him walk away and watching the case, I agree with the jury´s result.
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falloff LOL! Of course, what straight man hasn't at some point laid in bed with a 13 year old boy drinking alcohol and talking about sex? I mean come on, nothing could be more heterosexual than that. falloff You guys crack me up. lol

Read the article again.

MICHAEL JACKSON - JACKSON'S AIDE ADMITS HE SLEPT WITH THE POP STAR AS A KID

One of MICHAEL JACKSON's closest aides has revealed he too slept in bed and drank wine with the troubled superstar.

FRANK TYSON has been ordered to testify before the Grand Jury in Jackson's child molestation case, following claims that he was among the King of Pop's assistants who kept the accuser's family at NEVERLAND against their will.

And, in an exclusive interview with American TV scandal show CELEBRITY JUSTICE, Tyson reveals stunning new details about underage drinking and sleepovers that could prove pivotal in the child molestation case against the 45-year-old singer.

In a 45-minute phone interview conducted yesterday morning (12APR04), Tyson told TV journalist HARVEY LEVIN he has known Jackson since he was 13.

The interview will air today (13APR04), but Celebrity Justice spokeswoman LISA PHILLIPS says, "Tyson says he and Jackson, while in bed, would frequently have graphic sexual conversations about women, but was quick to add that Jackson never laid a hand on him.

"Tyson also admitted to Levin that, while underage, he occasionally drank wine with Jackson. Tyson claims he was the one who introduced Jackson to wine but that it was Jackson's idea to drink from soda cans, so that no one would know the singer was consuming alcohol.

"Tyson told Levin he believes Jackson is straight and went on to reveal that the singer has been secretly seeing the same woman for years. He told Levin that when he was a Jackson employee, he often arranged liaisons between the two."

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family


Nice kid who introduces an adult to alcohol. It was alleged to be the other way round. So they talked about sex, not appropriate, but obviously the guy was not a baby.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #92 posted 09/01/08 9:11am

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dag said:

...stuff...


I don't know why you bother, hon. Us MJ fans are idiots and fools.
We only see what we want to see. (Unlike the irritating cunts who ruin almost every thread created about Mike. Apparently they know the truth.)
You should just acknowledge that and move on. wink
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Reply #93 posted 09/01/08 9:14am

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midnightmover said:

BaileyWalker said:

- Corey Feldman & MJ in their underwear in a hot tub together:
Came from a direct live interview on the Howard Stern Show! Howard asked Corey if it was true in he told Martin Bashir that he was in a hot tub with MJ and you two were in your underear?? Corey was in shock and said "How did you find that out!" & then admitted that it was true and he did say he said that in a never shown part of his Bashir interview.

- 1995 MJ GAVE WINE to 13 year old Frank Tyson LAY IN BED TOGETHER as MJ tells him GRAPHIC SEX Stories!

http://www.contactmusic.c...%20a%20kid

MICHAEL JACKSON - JACKSON'S AIDE ADMITS HE SLEPT WITH THE POP STAR AS A KID

One of MICHAEL JACKSON's closest aides has revealed he too slept in bed and drank wine with the troubled superstar.

FRANK TYSON has been ordered to testify before the Grand Jury in Jackson's child molestation case, following claims that he was among the King of Pop's assistants who kept the accuser's family at NEVERLAND against their will.

And, in an exclusive interview with American TV scandal show CELEBRITY JUSTICE, Tyson reveals stunning new details about underage drinking and sleepovers that could prove pivotal in the child molestation case against the 45-year-old singer.

In a 45-minute phone interview conducted yesterday morning (12APR04), Tyson told TV journalist HARVEY LEVIN he has known Jackson since he was 13.

The interview will air today (13APR04), but Celebrity Justice spokeswoman LISA PHILLIPS says, "Tyson says he and Jackson, while in bed, would frequently have graphic sexual conversations about women, but was quick to add that Jackson never laid a hand on him.

"Tyson also admitted to Levin that, while underage, he occasionally drank wine with Jackson. Tyson claims he was the one who introduced Jackson to wine but that it was Jackson's idea to drink from soda cans, so that no one would know the singer was consuming alcohol.

"Tyson told Levin he believes Jackson is straight and went on to reveal that the singer has been secretly seeing the same woman for years. He told Levin that when he was a Jackson employee, he often arranged liaisons between the two."

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family.

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Spin it !! lol Spin it !! Spin it !! Spin it !! Come On lol You fools totally crack me up with your points of view!

Next
Explain to all how a Elephant can hang off the side of a cliff with it's tail tied to a daisy without falling.

rolleyes

You need to check out some of the excuses they've got for his poor live vocals and lip synching. You'll be rolling around on the floor. My favorite one is that the record company forced him to use the worse microphones on the Dangerous Tour so that he would sound bad no matter how beautifully he sung. lol I'm not making that up. One of these fools seriously said that. The same excuse was trotted out for his WMAs fiasco in 2006. Superstars just can't get good microphones these days. lol Oh, and he lip synches so that he doesn't have to go through the strain of memorizing the words. Because memorizing words is a superhuman thing that even the mighty MJ can't be expected to do. lol

On July 16, 1996, Michael Jackson held a special concert live at the Jerudong Park Amphitheatre in Brunei. This was a special, private concert arranged by the Sultan of Brunei and had an attendance of 60,000.

What makes the concert distinctive is the unique set list, as it includes songs from Jackson's previous Dangerous world tour and the then upcoming HIStory world tour, which the concert took place just a month before.
Man in the Mirror - Live
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #94 posted 09/01/08 9:15am

dag

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dag said:

...stuff...


I don't know why you bother, hon. Us MJ fans are idiots and fools.
We only see what we want to see. (Unlike the irritating cunts who ruin almost every thread created about Mike. Apparently they know the truth.)
You should just acknowledge that and move on. wink

Yeah, I know. Sometimes I am just fed up and don´t feel like doing anything and sometimes I can´t help myself.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #95 posted 09/01/08 9:22am

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dag said:

Cloudbuster said:



I don't know why you bother, hon. Us MJ fans are idiots and fools.
We only see what we want to see. (Unlike the irritating cunts who ruin almost every thread created about Mike. Apparently they know the truth.)
You should just acknowledge that and move on. wink

Yeah, I know. Sometimes I am just fed up and don´t feel like doing anything and sometimes I can´t help myself.


Your patience and ability to remain civilized despite all the insults thrown at you astounds me. hug
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Reply #96 posted 09/01/08 9:22am

midnightmover

dag said:

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family[/i]

Nice kid who introduces an adult to alcohol. It was alleged to be the other way round. So they talked about sex, not appropriate, but obviously the guy was not a baby.
[Edited 9/1/08 9:01am]

eek So now it's the kid's fault for corrupting a thirty something year old man? Wow! Here's a newsflash. A thirteen year old boy is not "a guy" as you call him. A thirteen year old boy is A CHILD! confused I'm shocked that you're actually criticising the kid for Michael's behaviour. And you wonder why victims rarely come out and tell their stories. It's precisely because they know ignorant people like you will blame them for it.

This guy (he's now old enough to be called "a guy") is now on the payroll and I'm sure has genuinely convinced himself there was nothing sordid about what happened. But most objective adults will look at that and see one thing only. Your idol is a dangerous pervert. But so as not to ruin your love affair with MJ you are willfully blinding yourself. I find some of you fans almost as disturbing as MJ himself.
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Reply #97 posted 09/01/08 9:26am

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midnightmover said:

dag said:

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family[/i]

Nice kid who introduces an adult to alcohol. It was alleged to be the other way round. So they talked about sex, not appropriate, but obviously the guy was not a baby.
[Edited 9/1/08 9:01am]

eek So now it's the kid's fault for corrupting a thirty something year old man? Wow! Here's a newsflash. A thirteen year old boy is not "a guy" as you call him. A thirteen year old boy is A CHILD! confused I'm shocked that you're actually criticising the kid for Michael's behaviour. And you wonder why victims rarely come out and tell their stories. It's precisely because they know ignorant people like you will blame them for it.

This guy (he's now old enough to be called "a guy") is now on the payroll and I'm sure has genuinely convinced himself there was nothing sordid about what happened. But most objective adults will look at that and see one thing only. Your idol is a dangerous pervert. But so as not to ruin your love affair with MJ you are willfully blinding yourself. I find some of you fans almost as disturbing as MJ himself.

I am not blaming anyone. I am just saying that that innocent child did NOT ack like a child.

Right, all the hundreds of MJ´s victims have managed to convince themselves that it was OK. Thank God YOU know what happened.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #98 posted 09/01/08 9:31am

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dag said:

midnightmover said:


You need to check out some of the excuses they've got for his poor live vocals and lip synching. You'll be rolling around on the floor. My favorite one is that the record company forced him to use the worse microphones on the Dangerous Tour so that he would sound bad no matter how beautifully he sung. lol I'm not making that up. One of these fools seriously said that. The same excuse was trotted out for his WMAs fiasco in 2006. Superstars just can't get good microphones these days. lol Oh, and he lip synches so that he doesn't have to go through the strain of memorizing the words. Because memorizing words is a superhuman thing that even the mighty MJ can't be expected to do. lol

On July 16, 1996, Michael Jackson held a special concert live at the Jerudong Park Amphitheatre in Brunei. This was a special, private concert arranged by the Sultan of Brunei and had an attendance of 60,000.

What makes the concert distinctive is the unique set list, as it includes songs from Jackson's previous Dangerous world tour and the then upcoming HIStory world tour, which the concert took place just a month before.
Man in the Mirror - Live

That is not live. As always when he does Man In The Mirror he is miming the first three or four minutes then coming in live towards the end. Even on the Bad Tour he was miming half of Man In The Mirror. Besides, you're not denying that he mimed 90% of the History Tour are you? Or 50% of the Dangerous Tour? And 90% of the MSG concerts and 1999 concerts?
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Reply #99 posted 09/01/08 10:03am

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midnightmover said:

dag said:


On July 16, 1996, Michael Jackson held a special concert live at the Jerudong Park Amphitheatre in Brunei. This was a special, private concert arranged by the Sultan of Brunei and had an attendance of 60,000.

What makes the concert distinctive is the unique set list, as it includes songs from Jackson's previous Dangerous world tour and the then upcoming HIStory world tour, which the concert took place just a month before.
Man in the Mirror - Live

That is not live. As always when he does Man In The Mirror he is miming the first three or four minutes then coming in live towards the end. Even on the Bad Tour he was miming half of Man In The Mirror. Besides, you're not denying that he mimed 90% of the History Tour are you? Or 50% of the Dangerous Tour? And 90% of the MSG concerts and 1999 concerts?


MM,

This is a very good point, and what irks me about MJ and the other MJ influenced artists.. They don't write the songs for the most part, and so that makes them singers/performers.... NOW if you take away the live singing, then what are they ??? good dancers and entertainers?

This will be always be the diff when people argue mj vs prince or mj vs whoever... If you don't write your own songs you already have a strike against you in my gradebook, but then to not sing live.. it's a joke.

Prince imo may have missed on the last few albums, but he still plays every instrument better than most and performs LIVE... end of discussion w/ mj comparisons.

I just don't understand the religious like cult fanatical treatment of a guy who was a wonderful talent in his early and classic years.

If you want to get technical, some of the J5 songs he is way out of key. I'll be there for an example.

He has flaws people, he bleeds, and can moonwalk but not on water. Not too mention last time I saw him dance with one of those boy band he was reaching into his 83 playbook... it's getting very old.


Next thread you will be telling me Usher is the chosen one... LOL
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Reply #100 posted 09/01/08 10:14am

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MM,

This is a very good point, and what irks me about MJ and the other MJ influenced artists.. They don't write the songs for the most part,


That's complete crap. There are only a handful of songs in MJs solo back catalogue which he didn't write and produce himself. The only ones that I can think of that he didn't write are Girlfriend, I Can't Help It, She's Out Of My Life, Thriller, Just Good Friends, Man In The Mirror, Keep The Faith and You Are Not Alone.

The majority of his biggest hits were penned by Michael alone.
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Reply #101 posted 09/01/08 10:48am

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aalloca said:



MM,

This is a very good point, and what irks me about MJ and the other MJ influenced artists.. They don't write the songs for the most part,


That's complete crap. There are only a handful of songs in MJs solo back catalogue which he didn't write and produce himself. The only ones that I can think of that he didn't write are Girlfriend, I Can't Help It, She's Out Of My Life, Thriller, Just Good Friends, Man In The Mirror, Keep The Faith and You Are Not Alone.

The majority of his biggest hits were penned by Michael alone.


Let me be clear.. music. did he write the music and play it?
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Reply #102 posted 09/01/08 10:49am

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dag said:

midnightmover said:


You need to check out some of the excuses they've got for his poor live vocals and lip synching. You'll be rolling around on the floor. My favorite one is that the record company forced him to use the worse microphones on the Dangerous Tour so that he would sound bad no matter how beautifully he sung. lol I'm not making that up. One of these fools seriously said that. The same excuse was trotted out for his WMAs fiasco in 2006. Superstars just can't get good microphones these days. lol Oh, and he lip synches so that he doesn't have to go through the strain of memorizing the words. Because memorizing words is a superhuman thing that even the mighty MJ can't be expected to do. lol

On July 16, 1996, Michael Jackson held a special concert live at the Jerudong Park Amphitheatre in Brunei. This was a special, private concert arranged by the Sultan of Brunei and had an attendance of 60,000.

What makes the concert distinctive is the unique set list, as it includes songs from Jackson's previous Dangerous world tour and the then upcoming HIStory world tour, which the concert took place just a month before.
Man in the Mirror - Live

It wasn't THIS concert that was live, it was the other Brunei show with the HIStory setlist
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Reply #103 posted 09/01/08 10:59am

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dag said:


On July 16, 1996, Michael Jackson held a special concert live at the Jerudong Park Amphitheatre in Brunei. This was a special, private concert arranged by the Sultan of Brunei and had an attendance of 60,000.

What makes the concert distinctive is the unique set list, as it includes songs from Jackson's previous Dangerous world tour and the then upcoming HIStory world tour, which the concert took place just a month before.
Man in the Mirror - Live

It wasn't THIS concert that was live, it was the other Brunei show with the HIStory setlist

Do you have that one?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #104 posted 09/01/08 12:16pm

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bboy87 said:


It wasn't THIS concert that was live, it was the other Brunei show with the HIStory setlist

Do you have that one?

Nobody except those select fanclubs that are hogging that along with the Berlin 1988 concert. selfish bastards mad
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Reply #105 posted 09/01/08 12:32pm

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MattyJam said:



That's complete crap. There are only a handful of songs in MJs solo back catalogue which he didn't write and produce himself. The only ones that I can think of that he didn't write are Girlfriend, I Can't Help It, She's Out Of My Life, Thriller, Just Good Friends, Man In The Mirror, Keep The Faith and You Are Not Alone.

The majority of his biggest hits were penned by Michael alone.


Let me be clear.. music. did he write the music and play it?


Michael is not an instrumentalist, but I imagine he knows his way around a piano. He is credited as the sole writer of many of his biggest hits, so I would think he knows a thing or two about composing music.
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Reply #106 posted 09/01/08 1:30pm

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MattyJam said:



That's complete crap. There are only a handful of songs in MJs solo back catalogue which he didn't write and produce himself. The only ones that I can think of that he didn't write are Girlfriend, I Can't Help It, She's Out Of My Life, Thriller, Just Good Friends, Man In The Mirror, Keep The Faith and You Are Not Alone.

The majority of his biggest hits were penned by Michael alone.


Let me be clear.. music. did he write the music and play it?



RESULT


Just FYI - Mike won the case.

BTW, I recently looked at the Invincible booklet and Mike is listed there on some songs as playing all the instruments.
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You guys should read this book
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You guys should read this book


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aalloca said:



Let me be clear.. music. did he write the music and play it?



RESULT


Just FYI - Mike won the case.

BTW, I recently looked at the Invincible booklet and Mike is listed there on some songs as playing all the instruments.



Ok. I see he comes up with vocal melodies... but am I wrong or have we never seen a video of MJ playing an instrument in all the videos that exist on youtube. Also just cause liner notes say it doesn't make it true. Don't they give credit to singers to give more cred??
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dag said:




RESULT


Just FYI - Mike won the case.

BTW, I recently looked at the Invincible booklet and Mike is listed there on some songs as playing all the instruments.



Ok. I see he comes up with vocal melodies... but am I wrong or have we never seen a video of MJ playing an instrument in all the videos that exist on youtube. Also just cause liner notes say it doesn't make it true. Don't they give credit to singers to give more cred??

I don´t think he´d risk giving himself more credit than he deserves after all law-suits that he has always won, btw.

And he´s not making just vocal harmonies. He´s composting the whole record. All intruments.

He said that in the finished song that I´ve posted as a result he was playing piano. Well, obviously he doesn´t play instruments onstage cause he´s dancing. And he probably does not consider himself to be that good to show it to the world, but he can manage to play some notes.
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Reply #111 posted 09/02/08 2:34am

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aalloca said:

dag said:




RESULT


Just FYI - Mike won the case.

BTW, I recently looked at the Invincible booklet and Mike is listed there on some songs as playing all the instruments.



Ok. I see he comes up with vocal melodies... but am I wrong or have we never seen a video of MJ playing an instrument in all the videos that exist on youtube. Also just cause liner notes say it doesn't make it true. Don't they give credit to singers to give more cred??

No, you're absolutely right. No footage exists of Michael playing an instrument. The producer who recently worked with Mike as part of the will.i.am collaboration confirmed that Michael can't play an instrument. He can come up with bass lines and riffs though, so he is musical, but he can't play.
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