See, michael from then didn't give up and his ego would not let his career end with the allegations. Sadly, now it looks that way though.

Hmm lets see here:
- Phone Sex with a underage boy Terry George in the later 70's/early 80's
(if the internet was around in 1979 he wouldn't have had a solo career over this)

-You show a nude std book & sit in a hot tub in your underwear to child star Corey Feldman

- Pays off a boy in 1990 a couple million

- Pays off another boy in 1993 20+ million after finding out this boy drew and described his errect penis! MJ gets the same lawyer as OJ and we see that Johnnie isn't a settling kinda guy when he didnt think twice of settling in the OJ trial - OJ's blood was at the crime scene! The victims blood was at OJ's house? Johnnie didn't settle. BUT he told MJ to settle after clearly finding out MJ's penis was described and draw correctly. WHY else would Johnnie tell him to?

- After loosing your career, your image/name & all your endorsements in 1995 you drink wine - lay in bed - tell a 13 year old Frank Tyson graphic sex stories.

- In 2003 you give a "make a wish"/cancer surviving boy wine.

- You promote Neverland as a place for children - a place of dreams! Every square inch of the outside is catered to children! Except his bedroom a room he "hints" to families & only boys to ask him to sleep with him in - this room as PORN XXX on basically flat surface! Just like in the Corey Feldman "moment". Of course a curious child will ask what this is! If Neverland was so "child like holy" why allow boys to go in an area which is adult? Why have any adult section in Neverland & if you are going to have Straight & Gay & Barely Legal Child Porn everywhere - why allow boys to sleep with you in that room? Neverland is huge! You own condo's everywhere! Why "hint" to fans in TV interviews to just ask and your boys will be allowed to sleep with me - in a room where I have sex toys and porn everywhere??

Oh No he isn't a criminal

BaileyWalker said:

Never heard of that Corey Feldman story in a tub and telling Frank Tyson sex graphic stories.

If I was the parent of a child who was molested i would not take the money. I would want him in jail.

I´ve seen some pictures on net of that alleged MJ´s penis and it looked ridiculous.

If the found porn was illegal, he would have been in jail. Most man have porn and where else do they store them than in their bedroom. And as far as I know it wasn´t proven in court that Mike showed it to the kids.

And as far as I know, giving a minor alcohol was one of the charges, of which MJ was cleared in court.

I don´t understand why you all wanna dig into it. There was a COURT and Mike WON because there was NO evidence despite the hundeds of child "victims" that were interviewed and numbers of times that Neverland was searched, just to remind you

MJ wasn't in his underwear, it was just a scientific textbook on the coffee table. Kids are curious about that stuff during puberty, maybe mj is just liberal talking about sex ed the way schools are when they keep condoms and stuff like that in the resource centre.
[Edited 8/31/08 10:46am]

dag said:[quote]

JackieBlue said:

I'm not surprised. Most people--MJ and LMP fans--are glad that marriage is over and after the mess MJ's been in it's good riddance from the Presley fams. Why would they care that it's his birthday? They don't even have kids together. The marriage is over. He goes in the file draw with Nick Cage.

As for the allegations, I do think most parents would fight instead of taking the money but seeing how the justice system works or doesn't (see R. Kelly, OJ and Robert Blake) and knowing they're going up against a celebrity who can buy anything maybe they wanted it to go away like Michael wanted it to go away. At least with the money they can buy therapy sessions.

JackieBlue said:

Do you think that Prince or Mayte fans would mind people wishing one of them happy birthday?

dag said:

Hmm, I don't know. I know I wouldn't bother. Are they on good terms? Did it end amicably? Once a marriage is over, especially when there's no kids involved people just move on unless they're still friends. Last I saw, LMP wasn't too crazy about MJ and they sure aren't friend. It's been like 10 years. I don't think Jan fans would be too crazy if someone did a Happy B'day thread to Rene.

JackieBlue said:

Well, yeah, but Janet and Rene are different story, mainly because Rene means nothing on his own. While Michael is one of the greatest artists of all time. It may be only natural that there will be poeple among the Presley fans that might like him for who he is. And I still think that people who are fans of LMP got into her either because of Elvis or because of Mike.

See, LMP´s acting she doens´t care and I am not sure if she does that to please her mother and some of Elvis fans or if it´s genuine. I don´t know if they´re still friends, but in her interview with Diane Sawer, she said Mike called her to make sure she was ok after divorce with Nick, so I don´t know if they´re still frinds and what is the real relationship between them now. Mike doesn´t talk about her and LMP changes her statements quite frequently, so I don´t know.

dag said:

Only LMP knows the truth but I just find it odd going to someone's site and wishing HB to their ex-spouse especially when said person has tons of forums of their own. Maybe the thread didn't need to deleted but odd nonetheless.

JackieBlue said:

See, it wasn´t the first time I went there. I just check it here and there to see if she hasn´t dissed him again. And since there has never been a word posted there about him, I wanted to find out how´d they react. I don´t think it was necessary to be deleted.

BaileyWalker said:

There was never any word on this hot tub story


What kid in 1990? The maid's son? That was around the 1993 case


Have you seen that picture? It's basically a picture of a cone That is the most vaque picture I've ever seen. Isn't ironic that at first the kid told police Michael never molested him and his mother co-signed with him....THEN his dad takes custody of him and his story changes.... Not to mention his dad was caught on tape saying he was going to get everything he could out of Michael?
And it wasn't just Johnnie who convinced Michael to settle. Sony played a factor also

[quote]- After loosing your career, your image/name & all your endorsements in 1995 you drink wine - lay in bed - tell a 13 year old Frank Tyson graphic sex stories. [quote]
When was this? Frank never said anything to my knowledge

A kid who, along with his sister, brother, and mother, couldn't keep their story straight on the stand. A kid, who when talking to the prosecution, had a story, but the minute the Defense talked to him, he had sudden amnesia? The kid who got caught sneaking into Michael's wine cellar when Michael wasn't there?


Looking back at the case and the evidence, there was no sex toys or gay/barely legal porn. There was NO child porn. It was all straight porn and one or two girl/girl flicks. And it wasn't just laying around. That shit was in a suitcase
And looking back at both the 1993 and 2003 case, it was said there were girls who spent the night at Neverland. Tom Sneddon went as far to travel to Australia to find "boyfriends" and "victims" and couldn't find anything. So all they had was this kid, Jason the maid's son, and hearsay about Wade Robeson and Mac Culkin, who both testified in Michael's defense. They also tried to get Brandon Adams who defended Michael, Emmanuel Lewis and his brother, Sean Lennon, Michael Gibb, who all defended Michael.
[Edited 8/31/08 13:02pm]

QUESTIONS BY MEZ

Timeline

Q. Do you remember telling Mr. Sneddon and the
19 sheriffs on one occasion that you were molested
20 before the video was done?
21 A. No.
22 Q. Would it refresh your recollection if I show
23 you a transcript of that interview?
24 A. Yes. Please.
25 MR. MESEREAU: May I approach, Your Honor?
26 THE COURT: Yes.
27 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Have you had a chance to
28 look at that transcript?

1 A. Yes.
2 Q. Does it refresh your recollection that
3 Mr. Sneddon was interviewing you about when these
4 acts of molestation allegedly occurred?
5 A. Yes. But the thing was, I don't -- even to
6 this day, I don't remember exactly when everything
7 happened exactly, so I mean --
8 Q. Well, do you remember being asked, "The acts
9 of molestation, had they already begun by the time
10 you did this video, do you know?" And you said, "I
11 think so."
12 And then Mr. Sneddon said to you, "So, in
13 your mind, one of the things that you're thinking
14 is, they're doing this video that they want you guys
15 to do so that if you ever told them the truth about
16 being molested, nobody would believe you," and you
17 say, "Yeah," right?
18 A. Well, I --
19 Q. Do you remember saying that to Mr. Sneddon?
20 A. That's more of my opinion - you know what I
21 mean? - right there. That last statement you just
22 said on that transcript, it's more of my opinion
23 than a state of fact.
24 Q. Well, Mr. Sneddon asked you last week when
25 this inappropriate touching supposedly occurred, and
26 you said it was after the rebuttal video was made,
27 correct?
28 A. Yes.

1 Q. But in an interview with Mr. Sneddon before
2 this trial ever began, you told him differently,
3 correct?
4 A. That's what it says right there. But it
5 happened after.
6 Q. Did someone


Q. Did someone ever say to you, "You have to
7 say it happened after, because on the rebuttal video
8 you deny he's ever done anything wrong"?
9 A. No. No one's ever told me that.
10 Q. Then why does your story change?
11 A. I don't know. It happened after. I mean --
12 Q. Well, at some point did you go to Mr.
13 Sneddon and say, "I'm changing my story about when
14 this inappropriate touching happened"?
15 A. No.
16 Q. At some point did you go to the sheriffs and
17 say, "I'm changing my story about when this
18 inappropriate touching happened"?
19 A. No.
20 Q. You just suddenly got on the stand and
21 changed it?
22 MR. SNEDDON: Object as argumentative, Your
23 Honor.
24 THE COURT: Sustained.
25 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Have you ever had any
26 discussion at any time with Mr. Sneddon where you
27 used words to the effect, "I'm changing my story
28 about the time this molestation happened"?

1 A. No.
2 Q. Okay. When Mr. Sneddon asked you questions
3 last week about when this molestation supposedly
4 occurred, was that the first time you said to Mr.
5 Sneddon it happened after the rebuttal video?
6 A. I don't think so.
7 Q. You don't think so?
8 A. I don't think that was the first time I ever
9 told him that it happened after the rebuttal video.
10 Q. So are you saying that at different times
11 you gave Mr. Sneddon different accounts of when the
12 molestation supposedly happened?
13 MR. SNEDDON: Your Honor, I'm going to
14 object to that question. Assumes facts not in
15 evidence, and it's argumentative and speculative.
16 THE COURT: Overruled.
17 Do you want the question read back?
18 THE WITNESS: Yes.
19 (Record read.)
20 THE WITNESS: Sometimes I would talk to
21 Mr. Sneddon without having like an interview -- or,
22 like, have a recorder or something. And I would
23 talk -- like, Mr. Sneddon was being really nice to
24 me. Like he was helping me, and he was making me
25 feel better about what happened and stuff. So he's
26 been really nice to me.
=====
27 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Do you remember telling
28 the Santa Barbara Grand Jury that after the Miami

1 trip, your brother stayed in Michael's room with you
2 every night until the last few days?
3 A. Yeah, he stood in my room -- he stood in the
4 room with me and Michael pretty much every day.
5 Some days he wouldn't stay there.
6 Q. Do you remember telling the grand jury that
7 until the last few days, your brother Star stayed
8 with you in Michael's room all the time?
9 A. He stood with us -- well, he -- the last --
10 the last week or two, or a few days, or something
11 like that, he didn't. Well, because my brother
12 wasn't there when it happened, so I'm pretty sure it
13 wasn't -- he stopped staying there the last few
14 weeks.
15 Q. Do you remember telling the Santa Barbara
16 Grand Jury:
17 "Q. Was your brother staying in the room
18 with you during that time?
19 "A. Well, the last few times he didn't, but
20 he was, like, when Michael was there -- when
21 Michael was there --
22 "Q. Uh-huh.
23 "A. -- he stood with me for all the time
24 when Michael was there. But, like, toward the
25 end, toward the last few days, he wasn't staying
26 with me no more."
27 Do you remember that?
28 A. Uh-huh.


Contradicts Star

Q. And you've also told this jury that the two
2 times you claim Michael Jackson inappropriately
3 touched you Star wasn't there, correct?
4 A. Yes.


Gavin contradicts "I was scared"

Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Now, your brother Star had
8 just said that going to Neverland Ranch was
9 something you always looked forward to, right?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. And at one point you realized you probably
12 weren't going to be returning to Neverland Ranch,
13 right?
14 A. After it was all over, I didn't want to go
15 back.
16 Q. At some point you realized you weren't going
17 to be in Michael Jackson's family, you weren't going
18 to Neverland Ranch, and it wasn't until then that
19 you ever came up with these allegations of
20 molestation, right?
21 A. I didn't want to go back after I came back.
22 Q. Please answer my question.
23 It wasn't until you realized that you and
24 your mother and your brother and your sister were
25 not going to be part of Michael Jackson's family
26 that you ever told anybody about any molestation,
27 right?
28 A. It wasn't as if we got together and realized it. It wasn't -- so your question isn't really
2 working.
3 MR. MESEREAU: Your Honor, could I request
4 that the witness be instructed to answer the
5 question?
6 THE WITNESS: I don't really understand the
7 question.
8 THE COURT: All right. Go ahead. Rephrase
9 your question.
10 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Okay. It wasn't until you
11 realized you were not going to be part of Michael
12 Jackson's family, you were not going to meet Michael
13 Jackson in Brazil, you were not going to be going to
14 Neverland, that you ever came up with these
15 allegations of molestation, right?
16 A. I didn't come and talk to the -- to the --
17 my mom always wanted to leave. She was the one that
18 was able to realize and get us out of there. I
19 liked being there.


Star caught making up stories. He says he saw no touching in grand jury. He was also caught quoting something he read in the newspaper

Q. Now, Prosecutor Sneddon asked you what you
23 meant when you told the grand jury you hadn't seen
24 Michael Jackson touch Gavin's genitals or penis.
25 Do you remember that?
26 A. Yes.
27 Q. And your response to Mr. Sneddon was, "Well,
28 I was just talking about the dinner table," right?

1 A. Yes.
2 Q. How come you never mentioned "dinner table"
3 to the grand jury when you made that statement?
4 A. I don't know if they asked me.
5 Q. Well, let me just go through what you said.
6 A. Okay.
7 Q. Okay?
8 "Q. What kind of things?
9 "Fix his shirt.
10 "Q. What else?
11 "A. He looked like from -- if you're
12 standing in front of him, it looked like he's
13 trying to fix his shirt. But it's hard to
14 explain. But he would like fix it, like he would
15 touch -- well, it was weird.
16 "Q. He would be touching him a lot?
17 "A. Yeah.
18 "Q. Not his genitals, not his penis?
19 "A. I never saw that. But I saw it in the
20 paper."
21 A. I don't know what I meant by "paper," but I
22 was trying to say that I didn't see it that time.
23 Q. But you never mentioned any kitchen table,
24 right?
25 A. But it wasn't the kitchen table.
26 Q. But you never mentioned any table at all,
27 correct?
28 A. I know.

Q. When did you come up with that explanation?
2 MR. SNEDDON: Object; argumentative.
3 THE COURT: Sustained.
4 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did you discuss with
5 Prosecutor Sneddon that you were going to be asked
6 that question?
7 A. No.
8 Q. Have you ever discussed the statement you
9 made to the grand jury about not seeing genitals or
10 penis; ever discuss that statement with Mr. Sneddon?
11 A. No.
12 Q. Ever discuss it with any prosecutor?
13 A. No.
14 Q. Ever discuss it with anyone in the sheriff's
15 department?
16 A. No.
17 Q. You don't mention that kitchen table in this
18 context anywhere in the police reports, do you?
19 A. I don't know.

QUESTIONS BY SNEDDON

Another lie. Rijo was around during that timeline and Gavin contradicts himself when he says other times, Grace was there teaching the kids

Q. BY MR. SNEDDON: Gavin, the first time he
21 touched you, where were you? What room?
22 A. We were in his room.
23 Q. Where were you in his room?
24 A. On the bed.
25 Q. Was there anybody else present besides you
26 and Mr. Jackson?
27 A. No, I think it was only us.



More lies from Gavin. His grandmother's story is transfered onto MJ and the day they were caught in the wine cellar when MJ wasn't on the ranch, it seems they wen't to MJ's room. He says "we were drinking a lot".

Q. Was there a period of time where your
13 brother Star stopped sleeping with you and Mr.
14 Jackson?
15 A. Yes.
16 MR. MESEREAU: Objection; leading.
17 THE COURT: Overruled. The answer was "Yes."
18 Q. BY MR. SNEDDON: And was it before or after
19 the time that Mr. Jackson touched you for the first
20 time?
21 A. When my brother stopped?
22 Q. Yeah.
23 A. It was before, because he stopped sleeping
24 in our room -- in the room.
25 Q. All right. Tell the jury how it came about
26 that you and Mr. Jackson were in bed together and
27 what you were doing.
28 A. Well, we were -- well, we just had come back from drinking a lot in the arcade, and it was --
2 Q. Doing what?
3 A. Drinking in the arcade.
4 Q. Can you pull that down just a little bit?
5 There. Okay. Go ahead.
6 A. We just came back from drinking in the
7 arcade, and then we went up to his room. And then
8 we were sitting there for a while, and Michael
9 started talking to me about masturbation.
10 Q. So you were in the room for a while and the
11 defendant started talking to you about masturbation?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. What did he say to you?
14 A. He -- he told me -- he said that if men
15 don't masturbate, that they can get to a level where
16 they can -- might rape a girl or they might be,
17 like, kind of unstable. So he was telling me that
18 guys have to masturbate.
19 And he told me a story that --
20 MR. MESEREAU: Objection; nonresponsive.
21 Q. BY MR. SNEDDON: All right. We'll stop
22 right there.
23 A. Okay.
24 Q. What else did he say to you?
25 A. He told me a story of he saw a boy one
26 time - he was looking over a balcony or something -
27 and he saw a boy who didn't masturbate and he had sex with a dog.


"That particular section". He is not telling a story from the heart. He is reciting a script.


Q. Did he tell you anything else during this
2 conversation?
3 A. That particular section? Or --
4 Q. Yeah. I mean, did he tell you anything
5 else?
6 A. He told me that boys had to masturbate, or
7 males have to masturbate.
8 Q. Okay.


Another lie. Gavin was not under covers with MJ in March. Rijo shared a bed with MJ which negates Gavin. Unless Gavin says he shared a bed with MJ and Rijo. But Rijo left Gavin because he was being "nasty". Gavin transfers his own behaviour to MJ and he also copies Jordy's allegations

A. He said that if I masturbated; and I told
17 him that I didn't. And then he said if I didn't
18 know how, that he would do it for me.
19 Q. And what did you say?
20 A. And I said I didn't really want to.
21 Q. All right. And then what happened?
22 A. And then he said it was okay, that it was
23 natural, and that it's natural for boys to do it.
24 Q. All right. What happened after that?
25 A. And then so he -- we were under the covers,
26 and I had his pajamas on, because he had this big
27 thing of pajamas and he gave me his pajamas.

1 A. And so I was under his covers, and then
2 that's when he put his hand in my pants and then he
3 started masturbating me.
4 Q. Could you see Mr. Jackson while he was doing
5 that to you?
6 A. Not really. I wasn't really looking at him.
7 Q. Could you tell whether or not he was moving?
8 A. Well, he was -- he was himself?
9 Q. Yes.
10 A. I wasn't really looking at him. All I
11 could -- I could kind of feel him moving, but, I
12 mean, I never really saw him moving.
13 Q. Do you know approximately how long Mr.
14 Jackson masturbated you?
15 A. Maybe five minutes, I guess.
16 Q. Did -- do you know what an "ejaculation" is?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. And did you have an ejaculation?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Did Mr. Jackson say anything to you
21 afterwards?
22 A. I kind of felt weird. I was embarrassed
23 about it. And then he said it was okay; that it was
24 natural.
25 Q. Did anything else happen that evening
26 between you and Mr. Jackson?
27 A. No. We just -- after that, we just -- he
28 tried to say that it was okay and that -- kind of

1 like to comfort me, because I felt weird. I felt
2 weird about it. And then after a while, we just
3 went to sleep.

If people are so convinced he's a pedophile, why is nothing being done to take away his 3 kids?

Remember the boy who accused Michael a few yeas ago? His mother is a scam artist She's a scheming,lying,money hungry opportunist.I heard about that scam she pulled against JCPenney,which resulted in her getting a huge amount of money.It's not inconceivable that she would come up with another shady scheme to get money and/or notoriety,even if it means making her own children go along with it.In fact,after Michael's trial ended,she was in court herself,on trial for welfare fraud...lol....I'm not saying anything about Michael's guilt or innocence.Just pointing out that you have to consider the source and examine the folks making these accusations.This is a family who has cried wolf on more than one occasion.They have absolutely no credibility.
[Edited 8/31/08 16:16pm]

MJ was smart enough to choose victims whose family situations were already messed up. So if, or when, a kid accused him, he already knew the family had issues and could use it against his accuser.
Most people felt he was guilty, and the same people felt he would be found not guilty. No surprises there. Just like OJ, a not guilty verdict did not vindicate MJ. Just more proof that if you're a celebrity and you want to commit a crime, California is the place you want to be. So pack up the family and move to Beverly. Hills that is.

thatruth said:

1) They are not allowed to question the defendant, but the prosecution is allowed to question the accuser. That's a MASSIVE handicap for the prosecution because, as I said before, a skilled lawyer will always be able to trip up an accuser, particularly if the accuser is young or uneducated.

2) The accuser's whole life is raked over, but the defendant's is not. For instance if the prosecution were allowed to discuss Michael's sex life (or lack of it) they would have rich pickings. He's never had a girlfriend and that could be easily proved in court. His close friendships with repressed homosexuals like Liberace, Freddie Mercury and gay goddesses like Liza Minnelli, Liz Taylor, etc. The fact that none of his children were conceived via sexual intercourse. The fact that his first wife has been saying for years that he only married her to get out of a jam. All of that could be used to paint a picture of a closet gay, but of course the prosecution is not allowed to do that. Yet the defense can use anything they like against the accuser.

3) They can't repeat any stories about the defendant's past misdemeanors unless the people involved agree to testify and they rarely do. This was a problem they also had in the R. Kelly case, and I know you don't think R. Kelly's "innocent", do you?
[Edited 8/31/08 17:19pm]

bboy87 said:

Two things. Firstly, if you want to keep your porno stash hidden, that is an EASY THING TO DO! Trust me, I have experience of this. Secondly, the very fact that there was so much pornography around undercuts one of the basic MJ lines of defense. The whole idea that he is an asexual Peter Pan. Quite clearly, he is not. So there are two ways you can explain the porn. First you can say "Hey, it just shows he's a normal, red blooded heterosexual". Well, that explanation doesn't really work since there's no evidence he's had sex with any woman in his life other than Lisa Marie when he was in the middle of a life crisis and trying to appear "straight". If he were heterosexual, he would do what heterosexual men do. Sleep with women. With his money, he could take his pick. The other explanation (and much more logical one) is that he was doing what all paedophiles do. That is, gradually pushing the boundaries and moving the relationship into sexual territory.
[Edited 8/31/08 16:59pm]

shygirl said:

100% correct.

curioso said:

That's what I've always wondered. Considering Britney got her kids taken away so quickly, how does MJ still have full custody of all three of his?

Can't wait for Michael Jackson's forthcoming single featuring R. Kelly and Gary Glitter.

midnightmover said:

No matter how messed up the families were. The point is that there was NO evidence.

can this topic die already? Why is everyone at every board talking about the allegations all of a sudden again? Is it cause his b'day just passed?

alphastreet said:

Duh. Read the original post.

midnightmover said:

You keep saying handicap and disadvantage when it comes to prosecuting sex crimes. The State has the burden of proof and like it or not the defendent has rights as well, that means knowing what they're being charged with, who's accusing him, what's the evidence against him and defending himself in the court of law. All the pre-trial stuff is done before a trial starts. The police collect the evidences, question the witnesses, the accuser IDs the defendent and gives a statement that states that so and so raped/molested me, all of these are advantages. The prosecution is given all of this and is assured that this is the truth. If it's the truth, it shouldn't be a problem, correct.

Tom Sneddon did what he was supposed to do, he didn't know that his case was full of holes. That shit happens in prosecution, you give legit cases and then you get bullshit cases where people aren't telling the truth. Now does that mean Michael Jackson can't be a pedophile, no, believe that all you want it's your right, but that's not the point and that's what some people like yourself can't understand. It's not about the possibility of MJ being a pedophile ,it's about whether or not the story the family told that was given to Santa Barbara County DA office that was brought to trial had merit. The answer was no.

- Corey Feldman & MJ in their underwear in a hot tub together:
Came from a direct live interview on the Howard Stern Show! Howard asked Corey if it was true in he told Martin Bashir that he was in a hot tub with MJ and you two were in your underear?? Corey was in shock and said "How did you find that out!" & then admitted that it was true and he did say he said that in a never shown part of his Bashir interview.

- 1995 MJ GAVE WINE to 13 year old Frank Tyson LAY IN BED TOGETHER as MJ tells him GRAPHIC SEX Stories!

http://www.contactmusic.c...%20a%20kid

MICHAEL JACKSON - JACKSON'S AIDE ADMITS HE SLEPT WITH THE POP STAR AS A KID

One of MICHAEL JACKSON's closest aides has revealed he too slept in bed and drank wine with the troubled superstar.

FRANK TYSON has been ordered to testify before the Grand Jury in Jackson's child molestation case, following claims that he was among the King of Pop's assistants who kept the accuser's family at NEVERLAND against their will.

And, in an exclusive interview with American TV scandal show CELEBRITY JUSTICE, Tyson reveals stunning new details about underage drinking and sleepovers that could prove pivotal in the child molestation case against the 45-year-old singer.

In a 45-minute phone interview conducted yesterday morning (12APR04), Tyson told TV journalist HARVEY LEVIN he has known Jackson since he was 13.

The interview will air today (13APR04), but Celebrity Justice spokeswoman LISA PHILLIPS says, "Tyson says he and Jackson, while in bed, would frequently have graphic sexual conversations about women, but was quick to add that Jackson never laid a hand on him.

"Tyson also admitted to Levin that, while underage, he occasionally drank wine with Jackson. Tyson claims he was the one who introduced Jackson to wine but that it was Jackson's idea to drink from soda cans, so that no one would know the singer was consuming alcohol.

"Tyson told Levin he believes Jackson is straight and went on to reveal that the singer has been secretly seeing the same woman for years. He told Levin that when he was a Jackson employee, he often arranged liaisons between the two."

Tyson denies allegations that he and his colleague VINNIE AMEN intimidated and threatened Jackson's accuser and his family.

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Spin it !! Spin it !! Spin it !! Spin it !! Come On You fools totally crack me up with your points of view!

Next
Explain to all how a Elephant can hang off the side of a cliff with it's tail tied to a daisy without falling.

BaileyWalker said:

All that this article proves to me is that MJ is STRAIGHT and if he is straight I don´t understand why he´d wanna molest boys.

Drinking wine with him while being underage and talking about woman might not have been the best behaviour, but he could have testified against him in court and say that. I am not sure if he did, but if he did, he sure would not help Mike, yet still Mike won the case. It case was closely watched by the media, the transcripts are available, so the jury could not mess around and let a criminal walk away. They let him walk away and watching the case, I agree with the jury´s result.
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Not once in this thread did anyone talk about anything "artistically related"

my point is MJ hasn't been relevant in years with any new product, every new album has the "hot" producer of the time and the golden songwriter and it still comes and goes.

We spend so much time on the Jackson family, who IMO has done very little in the past years with artistic merit that we ignore newer artists who are making great stuff and clearing a whole new path.

I try to indentify with some of you, as I am a huge Prince fan obviously, but I still have been readily admitting he has been doing the same thing I accuse MJ of for some time, and I am not happy with the albums.

For some of you to admit that MJ or Janet might not be relevant anymore is like death by stoning.

aalloca said:

It depends on what you mean by relevant. If it means having influence on today´s culture, then MJ has it, You can´t deny that, there are many MJ wannabies. If by relevant, you mean having hits than he hasn´t had any since History, but so hasn´t Prince. So if you mean by relevant having hits, than Prince is not relevant either, even though he may have released albums, but none of them has been more successful than Invincible, some not even that.

dag said:

Yeah. Funny isn't it that when Jordy Chandler was called by Sneddon to testify in 2005 that he refused and went into hiding.
I can't imagine why.

And Gavin Arvizo told both the police and social workers that he wan't molested by MJ but then suddenly changed his mind once Sneddon got involved.
I can't imagine why.

dag said:

LOL! Of course, what straight man hasn't at some point laid in bed with a 13 year old boy drinking alcohol and talking about sex? I mean come on, nothing could be more heterosexual than that. You guys crack me up.