thekidsgirl said:

I feel like the biggest lame-ass ever owning all their albums, whenever people come over and take a look at my CD collection.

Whatever. I wear my Backstreet Pride (heh. ) loud.

meow85 said:

Yep. Brian was absolutely psycho that night. He was pulling really odd expressions, talking nonsense and just generally acting like a moron.

And Black and Blue never came here, the only thing they did in their peak for Aus was a one day promo tour that went to one city, Sydney. Pointless and pathetic.

meow85 said:

Whatever grrrl! then its you and me both

BSB rox!

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purplesweat said:

Oh, that's what you meant! He always does shit like that. You said you were a fan for 6 years and never noticed the man's unending inability to play a show serious? I thought you said he was acting high. Sounds like he was just acting Brian.



Huh. I did not know that. I knew about their Sydney stop on the 100Hours tour, so that's why I assumed they'd been there with the tour proper too.

thekidsgirl said:

"Rock" is perhaps a strong word for what they do.

But whatever you call it, they do it damned well.


NIN are a more respected group, and for obvious reasons. But if it comes down between seeing another Backstreet show and seeing another NIN show, I'll be picking the Boys. I saw NIN in 2006. Boring. Ass. Shit. 2 hours of Trent mumbling to his shoes? No thanks.

meow85 said:

Er...well...considering they never toured Australia until that point...then NO I didn't notice. Try to keep up. All I'd seen up until then were music videos.



Nope. Most big American stars wait until they aren't selling anymore then they come here and tour almost every year. It's pathetic. Madonna hasn't toured here since the early 90s and snubbed Aus again on her latest tour, same with Prince (last show was Diamonds and Pearls era). MJ had some 2 second visit in 98, I think. Britney Spears was here for maybe another 2 seconds.

And same with Backstreet Boys. The 2005/4 tour I went to was the FIRST time they'd ever done a proper tour in Australia. I kinda wish I hadn't gone, or supported that. None of these artists have any excuse not to come here. Beyonce's toured about 3 times here now, why can't they?

purplesweat said:

Well, skipper. There're these neato, groovy, and out-there inventions called TV and internet. Before I saw my first show in '01, I already knew what to expect. Kevin took his shit way too seriously, considering it's a boyband. Howie sweats like mad and moms love him, AJ doesn't do well with maintaining the PG rating, Nick's large and uncoordinated, and Brian's a fucking clown. Sound about right?


You're sounding awfully bitter. But consider this -take a look at a map of Australia. How many cities big enough to sustain a tour are there? 2? 3? It's often not worth it in terms of scheduling or money for an artist to tour there. Beyonce, by the way, shouldn't be used as a measure for much.

meow85 said:

Not all of us are as obsessed as you. The internet wasn't a good source for anything until around 2003. As a paying customer, I would expect a top show from one of the biggest bands in the world, which is what I saw on TV. Instead I got a bunch of bored 30 somethings milking Australia for their money (since they can't get it anywhere "big" these days) and not even making the show worth the price. They could've at least stood up for half the show.




Rightfully so. I waited a good 6 years for the show and paid good money for nothing.



I don't know what kind of map you're looking at but there's 6 cities more than big enough to sustain tours (and have for more generous acts). Robbie Williams has staged HUGE tours here, Justin Timberlake bought his latest "in the round" tour here, as I said Beyonce has bought Destiny's Child and the B'Day tour here, Kylie Minogue (obviously) regularly tours here with huge shows and elaborate stages, Pink did a massive 6 shows in my city alone god knows how many more in the whole of Australia.

It's not impossible, it's just that the BSB didn't want to.

And considering Beyonce's a hell of a lot more relevant than the BSB have ever been, I think I'll continue to use her (amazing) tour as a measure, thanks.

Anyway, it's got nothing to do with whether cities are big enough, whatever the hell excuse that's supposed to be. It's got to do with Australia being one of their biggest markets in their prime. It's got to do with being loyal to fans no matter where they are in the world. If Pink can do 6 shows in one city, fucking BSB can get off their asses and actually perform their songs as they're meant to be sung for 5 minutes. If they're tired or don't want to do it anymore, then make like Kevin and QUIT.
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purplesweat said:

What in gay hell are you talking about? Was the world wide web not introduced yet down there in the 2000's? The internet's been a good source of plenty for years, not just the last 5.

Of course 3 of them would have been in their 30's when you saw them in 2005. How old did you expect them to be? Or were they to have reversed time and aging processes just for you?

Can't make it anywhere "big"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that's the case, why are they still selling out world tours instead of just booking club gigs?

Performing sitting down and filling their sets with a cappella numbers is done these days because it's what the fans, by and large, have been requesting. Personally, I love when they perform sans instruments.



Simple fact is, the reason the majority of acts don't go to Australia or only go briefly is that it's too big a time and money expenditure, world tour or not. I don't mean to sound callous, but consider yourself lucky those few that do go have.

Australia was hardly one of their biggest markets. Europe and Canada were, which is why they've been so loyal in their return trips.

I can't decide if you really are bitter and angry over what amounts to nothing, or if you're just a troll. Either way, this is wasting my time, and bringing down my good mood.
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To hell with purplesweat's cranky ass. I'm still mad for the show.!

meow85 said:

Gay hell? That was unnecessary.



Did I SAY it wasn't introduced? I said it wasn't a good source for things like videos, concerts etc UNTIL that year and onwards. As well as opposing opinions, the org also can't seem to READ and COMPREHEND what's written right in front of them.



Well maybe, yes. Since they seemed to have more energy and motivation before then.



Only the fans knew about this tour, I had no clue about it and I'm extremely up to date when it comes to music/news/tours. Of course that means there's still a lot of fans but don't go thinking they're "selling big" anymore - it's just a case of die hard fans remaining loyal for whatever reason.



Which is fine, but first time tour in Australia is not the time to suddenly change to acoustic. It's just wrong to deny fans a tour all these years, then finally come and sit down for the majority of the show, barely talk, barely sing....



Simple fact is, I proved big acts CAN and DO come here just fine. It's NOT impossible, THEY.JUST.DON'T.WANT.TO. So they pay the price - they lose fans. They don't have to tour anywhere, but they shouldn't expect loyalty back if they're not gonna show it in the first place.



Backstreets Back debuted at #3 and has a kind of iconic status here.
All I Have To Give got to #4.
As Long As You Love Me got to #2 and STILL gets regular radio play today.
I Want It That Way got to #2 and was absolutely MASSIVE here.
Larger Than Life debuted at #3.
Show Me The Meaning of Being Lonely was just as HUGE as I Want It That Way even though it didn't perform as well on the charts. (#19)
Millennium got to #2.
Shape of my Heart got to #5.
Incomplete debuted at #1

Not exactly unsuccessful were they?




Er...why would I be a troll? What's wrong with giving a negative opinion? It's not against the rules (although I'm starting to believe otherwise).

Again, I really have no idea which internet you're talking about that was no good for videos before just a few years ago. I've been using this here interwebs since I was 10. Suited me just fine for any purpose I could think of.

Only the fans know about this tour, eh? Well like I said, it's a world tour with dates scheduled for arenas and stadiums. Not small venues by anyone's estimation.

They didn't suddenly change to acoustic. Nor was the entire show that way. In fact, if memory serves, maybe only 1/4 of the show could have been called that. I'm sorry you were let down by the lack of flashy choreography, but doing an entire world tour then changing the setlist and making up dance routines for just one country on the schedule is stupid. Why would they give Oz fans a different show than everyone else?

The price and time are the issue. More artists don't than do tour in Australia. It may surprise you to know this, but it's incredibly rare even for a big name act to schedule their tour themselves. You don't like that performers aren't flocking in droves to Australia, you can take it up with management and record labels who make the decision not to go there.


I didn't say they were unsuccesful in Australia. What I said is that their biggest markets with the most support have been, then and now, Europe and Canada. So the Continent and the Canucks get consideration first. That's just how it goes.

Having an opposing opinion is not trolling, nor is it against site rules. But that's not what you're doing. You're being unnecessarily and unreasonably negative, and frankly, it's annoying.

I will not respond to your troll ass again. You want to start up a thread whining about how Backstreet Boys have mistreated you, go ahead. But don't rain shit on my happy parade just because you've got a bone to pick with a boyband who you somehow think has done you wrong.
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meow85 said:

Well, maybe you had a better computer than me. Who knows or cares? Point is, I went in expecting what I'd seen on TV, a huge amazing show, came out wondering what the fuck I just wasted almost 100 dollars on.



What the hell? Again with putting words in my mouth. Quote me where I said I want them to ONLY do things for Australia? As if anyone would say something like that! Jesus...



Yeah, I wasn't born yesterday, I'm aware the acts themselves don't decide. That doesn't give them the excuse to act like they're on sleeping pills. Or in Brian's case, ecstasy.



Calm down. A negative opinion is a fact of life. Get over it.



Where did I say they did ME specifically wrong? They haven't had a hit since that tour, the tour in general got bad reviews. Who says it's just me dissatisfied?

My computer was a piece of shit. It still worked.

Ecstasy? If you think how that dude acts onstage is anything like an E trip, you're in for a surprise.

The tour was panned? Funny, I seem to remember it getting great reviews.



Shit, I've actually been to a bad show -NIN -and you don't see me bitching and whining about it near as much as you are about this one. What's your problem?

meow85 said:

For what it's worth, I heard others around me commenting on his weird behavior.



Yeah, you also believe BSB didn't have a good market here.

purplesweat said:

What you described matches how he always acts at shows. Or most of the time outside of serious interviews. Do a little Youtubing, if you don't feel like taking my word for it. But trust me, that's no E trip. It's cute that you think that's what the drug does to a person though.


Not what I said. I said the market is better and the sales bigger in Europe and Canada, not that the market wasn't good in Australia. Learn to read.
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Purplesweat, I will not be responding to you again in this thread or the other. I know I already said that, but you baited me and I admit I bit. That was my bad. You're not worth the effort.

Good night.

meow85 said:

EPIC FAIL!

Big ass whoop, i saw John McCain

LittlePaisleyCorvette said:

Yeah, I think I win. Boyband trumps Miracle Ear customer.

meow85 said:

He has more album sales

LittlePaisleyCorvette said:

I'd love to hear his hit singles.