meow85 said:

Good argument

meow85 said:

Exactly

Timmy84 said:

You've never had fried bananas or plantains with ice cream? I thought that was almost a standard on restaurant menus these days. Fried bananas are nummy!

guitarslinger44 said:

Thats true. If rock'n'roll was soley a black music from it would of been invented in Africa. So did Big Mama Thornton rip off white people by singing 'Hound dog'? In general are black people ripping off white people if they sing a song written by white people? The whole argument is ridiculous really. Elvis has the King title because he was the most POPULAR artist of his day, no one says it's because he's the best cause it's all subjective. Just like Michael Jackson is the king of pop, pop is typically a white music form yet Michaels the king, not because he's necessarily the best but because hes undeniably the most popular 'pop' artist of all time.

PANDURITO said:

Damn few of these well-loved performers led healthy, functional lives. Disliking just one or two for their habits while giving a pass to the rest is silly.

Harlepolis said:

'FUCK Elvis again ' Well done!


Even I know, as a non-American, that the history of racism in America is something that you can't go around.....it's there! Here on the org, everywhere where racism is mentioned I see you coming up being all defensive & angry and stuff about it and I am sure you have reason to be. Saying that Elvis was a racist mofo is just too easy, tA and others have already proved with their posts that there is no real evidence aside from some urban myths. Elvis just was singer, inspired by black musicians and made a successful career out of it. Did he deprive the black musicians from their paychecks??? No, did the American society in that time do that? Probably yes..... All this BS about that Elvis stole from the black community has to stop, it was a matter of circumstances. As stated earlier, Chuck Berry or James Brown never had a problem with it.
Yes, we all know that racism in the US was/is real, does this mean that every white artist inspired by african-american culture is a racist thief/crook?? Puhlease!!!
This guy, Robin Thicke nowadays.....he's white as a motherfucker.....his music could be condidered as black modern RnB.....whose paycheck is he stealing??

BTW, what's this shit about Stymie raising hell here?? Can't we have just a normal discussion??

Carry on

I love Elvis´ voice and I always will. Don´t care what the haters say.

abierman said:

I saw me a motherfucker once.
And it was probably the whitest thing I ever saw in my life.

TheMightyCelestial said:

I've seen many motherfuckers, both white & black!!!

abierman said:

Thank you

Honestly, I couldn't give 2 shits who stole from who,,,this argument is the most redundant one in theOrg(next to the Prince Vs MJ threads ). Did black artists rip off others? Hell yes, I wasn't born yesterday,,,,but history will show you who was the biggest thieves in the entertainment business yesterday and today,,,,google it, look for it in books, ignore it,,,thats your say. My only argument is, his music sucks big sweaty-humid-in-summertime balls,,,,in short.

But you guys will go through fire and beyond to make people give a shit about this dude's music when alot of people here just,,,don't And its not me who gotton defensive and angry about it,,,,look who made a whole thread over a simple reply from that "hatred thread"

It is what it is, though.

Harlepolis said:

This I agree with you, I don't own a single record by him and I can't sit through one single movie with him in it! So, this is a valid reason to dislike him, without having to get upset about his alleged stealing from black musicians, his alleged racism, etc..... Your 'FUCK Elvis' comment seems a bit obsolete, the guy has been dead for over 30 years.....ya know?
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abierman said:

Whether he's dead or alive,,,,it shouldn't make a difference about how I feel about him I'm just being my honest self, nobody can fault me for that

And hey, if Vainandrea can go through his wild tirades against "Shitney Houston",,,,,so can I, dammit

Harlepolis said:

PANDURITO said:

Harlepolis said:

Right answer!

Harlepolis said:

That's the truth. Dude was way overrated, but I love reading stories about how out-of-control he was.

In terms of wackiness, hardcore Elvis fans are right up there with diehard Michael Jackson fans.

The one good thing you can say about Elvis is he had some powerful genes. Lisa Marie looks just like her dad, right down to the raccoon eyes.

uPtoWnNY said:

That's very easy to say after 60+ years of rock 'n roll. Back in the day there was hardly anyone else who was doing the same thing, please tell me how he was overrated??

The out of control-stories weren't until well into the 70's, he started his career in the late 50's.....

Again, I'm NO fan!

meow85 said:

tha f*!k you talkin' about nice try?

This personal to me. I must explain:

In the mid-50's, Elvis was living in Houston. He met my Mom at the beach one day and became enamored with her. He asked her out, but she turned him down. She was dating the man she would eventually marry (my Dad) and didn't see a future with Elvis. He was persistent, even sending her a Christmas card (which she threw away) but in the end, my Dad beat out Elvis Presley.

Now, this COULD be an homage to my Dad and his ultimate coolness (not to brag, but he was universally known as the coolest man in America), but think this through.

What if my Mom HAD dated, and then married, Elvis? I wouldn't be RodeoSchro.

I would be Lisa Marie Presley.

Which means I would have been married to Michael Jackson. Which means I would have SLEPT with Michael Jackson.

Now you understand why sometimes, I wake up screaming.

You look like your father though, don't you?

PANDURITO said:

Spittin' image. But I am not even 10% as cool as he was.

meow85 said:

I can't say I have, no. Then again I don't even think about it if I go to restaurants and I hardly go to restaurants anyway!
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PANDURITO said:

you retarded bastards! ! ! ! ! ! x 10,000! ! ! ! ! !



iguess imma have a loose meat sammitcch.....

abierman said:

but that's just the point: there were tons of people doing what he was doing - but they were black and therefore marginalized. how do you not get that? he's overrated because he can't help but be. if you and i are at a track meet, and you shoot me in the foot, go on to win the race, and get all the accolades thrust upon you, couldn't your "triumph" be seen by some as overrated at the very least? hollow and pyrrhic? undeserved?

PANDURITO said:

..

Ahhh, this is a classic dismantling.

"Who ordered the tot in the box?"



"I did."

Timmy84 said:

i actually googled this. apparently he first tasted it at a restaurant in denver, and he had his cook make it up for him. i saw her demonstrate this on tv that's why i remember it so. but the damn sammich is supposed to serve eight peeps; elvis would eat the whole thing by himself.

i also found the "butter dripping down his arms" quote in google.

whenever i hear lmp talking about protecting his image and legacy, i titter a bit. do they really think people are laughing with elvis and not at him when they read about elvis' p-nut butter banana and other culinary delights? yeah, great legacy they're pimping out there...

from google: "In 1951, Cleveland, Ohio disc jockey Alan Freed began playing rhythm and blues music for a multi-racial audience. Freed is credited with first using the phrase "rock and roll" to describe the music. However, the term had already been introduced to US audiences, particularly in the lyrics of many rhythm and blues records....Before then, the phrase "rocking and rolling", as secular black slang for dancing or sex, appeared on record for the first time in 1922 on Trixie Smith's "My Man Rocks Me With One Steady Roll"..."

rock n roll was a black slang term for sex. most people know that so there shouldn't be need to argue the point. see, this is what drives black people crazy: the assumption that just because a white person said it or did it, they get to lay claim to having invented it, thought of it first, etc.

next you'll be telling us about the origin of the word 'diss'. betcha think that came from whites, too, huh?
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