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any fans of surf music? I'm looking for Dick Dale type stuff, old surf music - any recommendations? | |
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Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas | |
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Even though Hendrix warned, "You'll never hear surf music again", I heard quite a bit of it growing up.
When the term "Surf Music" comes up, to me it in can mean two things. One is a particular twangy, echoed/reverby guitar sound. You already named the so-called "King of Surf Guitar", here are a few other suggestions. 
...The Ventures 
...Duane Eddy 
...The Surfaris 
...The Shadows For vocal tunes the obvious picks would be early Beach Boys along with Jan & Dean tA  Tribal Disorder
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Mach said: Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas
That's an entirely different vibe. Very hard to explain. 
However Bill Deal and the Rhondells should ring a bell with you. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Mach said: Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas
That's an entirely different vibe. Very hard to explain.
However Bill Deal and the Rhondells should ring a bell with you. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Or the song made famous again by Pulp Fiction, what was that one?  My Legacy
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NDRU said: theAudience said: That's an entirely different vibe. Very hard to explain.
However Bill Deal and the Rhondells should ring a bell with you. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Or the song made famous again by Pulp Fiction, what was that one? Are you referring to "Rumble"... ...by Link Wray? tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Even though Hendrix warned, "You'll never hear surf music again", I heard quite a bit of it growing up.
When the term "Surf Music" comes up, to me it in can mean two things. One is a particular twangy, echoed/reverby guitar sound. You already named the so-called "King of Surf Guitar", here are a few other suggestions.
...The Ventures
...Duane Eddy
...The Surfaris
...The Shadows For vocal tunes the obvious picks would be early Beach Boys along with Jan & Dean tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Right on tA  .
Dick Dale is the man when it comes to the surf guitar. His phrygian mode based musings on those industrial thick strings of his are great indeed. Being half Lebonese (I think), he brought a taste of Arabia to sunny California  .
Duane Eddy and the Ventures are also definitely icons in this genre. And obviously the early Beach Boys records as well as Jan and Dean (many of whose hits were also composed/produced by the Beach Boys own Brian Wilson). And, while not strictly surf, the UK's very own Shadows led by the great Hank Marvin certainly had a similar sound, though they were doing their thing from the late '50s - 'Apache' .
And I've come to believe that Hendrix's views on surf music were more complex than often thought. While he famously reviewed the Beach Boys' classic (and not at all surflike) single 'Heroes & Villains' as 'psychedelic barbershop quartet'  , Jimi is rumoured to have admired Dick Dale and seen him in concert in early-mid '60s. They may even have known each other a little IIRC.
And then there's the outtake mix of 'Third Stone From the Sun', where after saying, 'You'll never hear surf music again', Jimi is heard to add soto voce 'That's a lie,' and giggles, which always cracks me up. In fact, according to the sleeve notes of my Dick Dale double compilation, Dale claims that 'Third Stone' was dedicated to him (Dale) after Jimi heard Dale was apparently dying of cancer (which he later recovered from). Dale says, 'For a while Hendrix was backing up Little Richard in a bar in Pasadena. He came to my live shows. Listen to his guitar slides; he said he patterned his style after me, after watching me blow up amplifiers.' I'm not sure about the last bit Dale says (after, Little Richard always claims he taught Jimi everything he knew  ), but Dick was certainly blowin' amps in the southern California area a good while before Jimi got his thang together.
There's some cool stuff in the 'surf' genre for those with open ears .[Edited 8/13/08 13:02pm] | |
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theAudience said: NDRU said: Or the song made famous again by Pulp Fiction, what was that one? Are you referring to "Rumble"... ...by Link Wray? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Correct me if I'm wrong, tA, but I think he means 'Miserlou' by Dick Dale and the Daletones, which IIRC was the de facto lead track on the 'Pulp Fiction' soundtrack. | |
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Miles said: theAudience said: Are you referring to "Rumble"... ...by Link Wray? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Correct me if I'm wrong, tA, but I think he means 'Miserlou' by Dick Dale and the Daletones, which IIRC was the de facto lead track on the 'Pulp Fiction' soundtrack. Yeah Miles, that's the one I was thinking of. But tA is right, too. That's another good one! [Edited 8/13/08 12:48pm] My Legacy
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NDRU said: Miles said: Correct me if I'm wrong, tA, but I think he means 'Miserlou' by Dick Dale and the Daletones, which IIRC was the de facto lead track on the 'Pulp Fiction' soundtrack. Yeah Miles, that's the one I was thinking of. But tA is right, too. That's another good one! That would've been my other choice. 
( I thought it was The Del-Tones)
There are a couple more cool "Surf" tunes in that movie. Dick Dale is still out there. He's also got his kid playing with him occasionally. One of my co-workers used to be in his band. He said it was a rather rough gig. It appears that Mr. Dale has got one of those Alpha-A type personalities. From what I understand he also plays the trumpet. tA Tribal Disorder
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If you put this post up to your ears,
you can hear the ocean. | |
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Miles said: Dick Dale is the man when it comes to the surf guitar. His phrygian mode based musings on those industrial thick strings of his are great indeed. Being half Lebonese (I think), he brought a taste of Arabia to sunny California .
Duane Eddy and the Ventures are also definitely icons in this genre. And obviously the early Beach Boys records as well as Jan and Dean (many of whose hits were also composed/produced by the Beach Boys own Brian Wilson). And, while not strictly surf, the UK's very own Shadows led by the great Hank Marvin certainly had a similar sound, though they were doing their thing from the late '50s - 'Apache' .
And I've come to believe that Hendrix's views on surf music were more complex than often thought. While he famously reviewed the Beach Boys' classic (and not at all surflike) single 'Heroes & Villains' as 'psychedelic barbershop quartet' , Jimi is rumoured to have admired Dick Dale and seen him in concert in early-mid '60s. They may even have known each other a little IIRC.
And then there's the outtake mix of 'Third Stone From the Sun', where after saying, 'You'll never hear surf music again', Jimi is heard to add soto voce 'That's a lie,' and giggles, which always cracks me up. In fact, according to the sleeve notes of my Dick Dale double compilation, Dale claims that 'Third Stone' was dedicated to him (Dale) after Jimi heard Dale was apparently dying of cancer (which he later recovered from). Dale says, 'For a while Hendrix was backing up Little Richard in a bar in Pasadena. He came to my live shows. Listen to his guitar slides; he said he patterned his style after me, after watching me blow up amplifiers.' I'm not sure about the last bit Dale says (after, Little Richard always claims he taught Jimi everything he knew ), but Dick was certainly blowin' amps in the southern California area a good while before Jimi got his thang together.
There's some cool stuff in the 'surf' genre for those with open ears .
Cool story. I've heard that Hendrix out-take.
And what else would you expect Little Richard to say? After all, he is The Architect...of everything.
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theAudience said: Dick Dale is still out there. He's also got his kid playing with him occasionally. One of my co-workers used to be in his band. He said it was a rather rough gig. It appears that Mr. Dale has got one of those Alpha-A type personalities. From what I understand he also plays the trumpet. A guy who sat in with my band on bass said he opened for Dick Dale once. They had bout 20 minutes to go, when someone went to the singer and informed him that "Dick's ready to go." ie. you're done right now! I believe he also strings his guitar like you do. My Legacy
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NDRU said: A guy who sat in with my band on bass said he opened for Dick Dale once. They had bout 20 minutes to go, when someone went to the singer and informed him that "Dick's ready to go." ie. you're done right now!
I believe he also strings his guitar like you do. That sounds about right.
Yeah, he's a charter member of the "Left-handed Upside-down Brotherhood". 
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theAudience said: Mach said: Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas
That's an entirely different vibe. Very hard to explain.
However Bill Deal and the Rhondells should ring a bell with you. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Oh okay - TY 
I would like to understand the difference if you have the time and don't care to try to explain. I'm all about learning things | |
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I'm not a guru on the genre, but I love all that I've heard.....most of the artists mentioned by tA along with The Trashmen. This time of the year is perfect for surf music. I always think about those old Annette Funicello & Frankie Avalon beach movies. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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Mach said: Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas
Do they still do the Shag up there? looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AnckSuNamun said: Mach said: Is that like "Beach Music" they talk a lot about that here in the coastal NC areas
Do they still do the Shag up there? I am almost positive 
They have Beach Music clubs that meet every other weekend | |
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Mach said: Oh okay - TY
I would like to understand the difference if you have the time and don't care to try to explain. I'm all about learning things Cool.
This actually explains it better than I could: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...each_Music It includes a "socio-political" reason for the genre that I was unaware of. Let me know what you think. tA Tribal Disorder
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That would've been my other choice.
( I thought it was The Del-Tones) You're "both" right tA. Back then it was Dick Dale and his Del-Tones. Same band. I wouldn't call the Beach Boys or Jan and Dean "surf music." Although they sang about it they didn't use the guitars the Dick Dale way. Here's a little known surf band with a great guitarist- The Treble Spankers from Holland. | |
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DakutiusMaximus said: I wouldn't call the Beach Boys or Jan and Dean "surf music." Although they sang about it they didn't use the guitars the Dick Dale way.
Here's a little known surf band with a great guitarist- The Treble Spankers from Holland. Nice. A friend of mine from Japan told me to this day there are cover bands there consisting of dudes 50+ years old devoted to playing nothing but twangy Surf tunes. As for early Beach Boys and Jan & Dean, I believe they get included in the genre on the vocal side of things because of subject matter they sang about. tA Tribal Disorder
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AnckSuNamun said: I'm not a guru on the genre, but I love all that I've heard.....most of the artists mentioned by tA along with The Trashmen. This time of the year is perfect for surf music. I always think about those old Annette Funicello & Frankie Avalon beach movies.
Surfin' Bird... 
The Chantays - Pipeline The Astronauts - Baja A couple more that were pretty hot back in the day. Manic Depression's a frustrating mess!...
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Oh yeah, ('bout the Beach Boys and Jan an Dean) I know they're considered surf music.
It's just that I don't consider them surf music. Never did care for them very much although I liked Little GTO by Ronnie and the Daytonas,a shameless Beach Boy copcat band. I actually like these guys better than the real Beach Boys. There's something about the low rent production values and the cheesy Farfisa organ that does it for me. This song has an energy about it. The Beach Boys always sounded over-produced and sterile to me although I admit I was more partial to their car songs than their their girl songs. The Little Old Lady From Pasadena was a great song idea and 409 and Shut Down... Hmmm... maybe I liked 'em more than I remember I did...  [Edited 8/13/08 20:01pm] | |
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theAudience said: Mach said: Oh okay - TY
I would like to understand the difference if you have the time and don't care to try to explain. I'm all about learning things Cool.
This actually explains it better than I could: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...each_Music It includes a "socio-political" reason for the genre that I was unaware of. Let me know what you think. tA Tribal Disorder
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DakutiusMaximus said: Oh yeah, ('bout the Beach Boys and Jan an Dean) I know they're considered surf music.
It's just that I don't consider them surf music. yeah the Beach boys are not surf music [to me, either] because they don't have the guitar. That guitar sound defines surf music--not to mention most surf music was instrumental, wasn't it? They are really coming out of the Phil & Ronnie Specter tradition, but just happened to sing a bout surfing & be called the Beach Boys. My Legacy
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Here's a classic surf tune. I think this performance style is what a certain record exec had in mind when he told the Beatles that "guitar music was on its way out." Early Beatles look a little dorky, but not compared to these guys!
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I love this thread.
I grew up in Southern California, in the South Bay. Home of the Beach Boys. I love happy, sunshiney music like this. I think it's part of my DNA. | |
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While all of this music is great (Dick Dale is still playing on 12 at a small club near you), you guys need to get with the modern artists who do this music...
One of my favorites: Los Straitjackets 
Then there's these cats... The Apemen The Aqua Velvets The Boss Martians Laika & the Cosmonauts Man or Astro-man? The Lord High Fixers The Mermen The Monkeywrench The Penetrators The Phantom Surfers The Torpedoes The Torquays The Sir Finks Space Cossacks The Untamed Youth The Wanglers | |
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Slave2daGroove said: While all of this music is great (Dick Dale is still playing on 12 at a small club near you), you guys need to get with the modern artists who do this music...
One of my favorites: Los Straitjackets
I think they did a cover of The Munsters theme.....one of my fav. themes of all time. I'm pretty sure it was them. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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I like their Mexican wrestler style. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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