She has nothing to do with her career, she has NO publishing,so everytime her songs get played she makes ZERO dollars. I dont care what she sells worldwide, it dont mean shit if you dont write or have some form of input, why do you think Beyonce puts her name on everything! Others are getting rich of this girl, its no different than Toni Braxton, Tlc or any other hit making machine of the day that has no input in their career.

And her tours net her shit, when you take out the sponsors the road crews, the people that tag along that having to do with anything, you are left with nothing but the rented clothes on your back.

My advice to Rihanna, get yourself a clothing line. get yourself perfume deals. Music nets nothing, at least for Produced artists like yourself. Dint everyone think it was strange that of the 20 top money makers of females in music, Rihanna was nowhere to be found?

lastdecember said:

She already has a shitload of merchandising deals.

VoicesCarry said:

Yeah but who's keeping the books, thats the deal. If you got joe shmo doing it you're screwed. But if you're someone like Hilary Duff orjessica Simpson where you have family doing it, or even youre doing it than thats keeping it to yourself. You can sign a million deals and still lose it all if your bookeeper is keeping it all.

lastdecember said:

The fucking article is not even real.

lastdecember said:

The fucking article is not even real.

I don't care what anyone says: learn to count your own damn money.

Rhianna needs to invest in pork bellies.

I buy what Williams says. But I agree it's terribly unprofessional to be airing detail about a former client like this. If Rihanna publicly, knowingly and wrongly accuses her of "stealing," I say sue her. But Williams shouldn't ruin her own rep by running her mouth.
[Edited 8/17/08 23:22pm]

Rhianna needs to invest in pork bellies.

TheMightyCelestial said:

Mr. Rick James shared this same advice.

http://www.bankrate.com/b...20530a.asp

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"I'm a professional Business Manager, I have a staff of more than a dozen, I have worked for many high profile actors, musicians and multi-million dollar corporations. Why would I steal from Rihanna?" She continues, "I showed her all the paperwork and tried to explain to her the circumstances but she wouldn't listen. She called me all sorts of horrible names and stormed off. I now feel compelled to share with the world the background story as I will not allow my name to be slandered"

The Barbados born singer has had four back-to-back albums, including a re-release since her debut of "Pon De Replay" in 2005.

According to Willliams, Marc Jordan, manager and owner of Rebel One Management has been taking care of Rihanna's financial situation with her. "Def Jam doesn't fund Rihanna properly, so Marc uses the money Rihanna makes from third-party endorsements and from tours to fund her album and music videos." Since 2005, Rihanna has been sponsored by the likes of JC Penny, Samsung, Covergirl, Secret, Venus Breeze etc,. and has gone on two major tours, most recently label-mate Kanye West's "Glow in the Dark" Tour and with PussyCat Dolls across Europe.

"I don't want to disrespect Marc's name. He is a fantastic manager and genuinely believes in Rihanna. But he uses her money to fund her future projects because he believes he can break her in the world-market. Her album sales are not nearly as close to her single sales and he knows that if she is only known as a 'singles artist' she will only be as good as her last hit. Unfortunately, he didn't inform his client and I'm receiving the brunt of it.

"Why is Def Jam lacking in funding support for there act? Why was so much money spent? How much exactly? Williams continues,

"Her record label Def Jam has put out 3 albums in a time span of 2 years. Alot of that was orchestrated through her management Rebel One. It was never Def Jam's intention to release so many albums back-to-back but Marc Jordan found loop holes and ways to make it happen.A lot of the money Rihanna made through her endorsements between CoverGirl Cosmetics, Samsung.. Notice that majority of Rihanna's videos have a cell phone in it?"

"After the release of Rihanna and Teairra Mari, Def Jam had intention to drop both acts because their album sales were not successful. Her manager fought to get [S.O.S (Rescue Me)] and quickly tried to negotiate with as many companies as possible. Nike picked up the song and funded a video. This brought the hype back for Rihanna in the company's New York office. Majority of the official 'S.O.S' video was funded by Samsung because the record label was only willing to put up a small amount. Once 'S.O.S' picked up digitally and at radio, Def Jam agreed to fund the rest of her album. Jordan instantly got a video shot to 'Unfaithful' (he negotiated with video director Anthony Mandler to drop his price and would be given more videos from Rihanna in return). Then they shot 'We Ride' which was an extremely cheap video to create. 'Break It Off' was released as a third album, but again, Def Jam was unhappy with the sales of her album "A Girl Like Me" and refused to shoot a video. At this point Rihanna was opening up for the PussyCat Doll's in Europe. She was making 30,000 a show but she didn't see any of that money because it was needed to fund her next album." Which is now known to the greater public as a 'Good Girl Gone Bad'."

The song "Umbrella" was found & Jordan fought again for Rihanna to have it. They shot the video, which CoverGirl funded half of, and the song became a success. When the record label had there meeting with Music Stores across the U.S to order her album for shipment, the number's weren't coming in the way that they expected. When the album's first week numbers came in at less than 150,000, the label was shocked. Def Jam's President LA Reid was livid! Umbrella was #1 for 11 weeks! Any other artist would have sold way more first week. T-Pain even did better in sales than her that week. Def Jam told Jordan they were no longer funding the album, so Jordan needed money again to pay for music videos 'Shut Up & Drive' and 'Dont Stop The Music'. Almost 250,000 was spent to have those videos created. Plus, an additional 120,000 to shoot 'Hate That I Love You'. Jordan was noticing that 'Dont Stop The Music' was picking up, so her persuaded the label to support it at radio in the U.S and the remaining singles, and they did."

"Then came for the repackaging of her album 'Good Girl Gone Bad', which is called 'Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded', that entire project was funded through Rihanna's money. 'Take A Bow' was bought through her money, the video was created with her money and so is her most recent video and single 'Disturbia'. The label didn't even want to pay a dime for anything! Close to 750,000 was spent on those two songs alone. And now she expects to see money in her account?"

Williams states that Jordan, her publicist from well-respected public relations firm 42-West, Alicia Silverman has built alot of hype around Rihanna's name but the singer has only made "a little bit above a million" and "all of it was spent on making her as big as she is now.It's not my fault that she only has 20,000 to her name."

I don't care what anyone says: learn to count your own damn money.

carlcranshaw said:

That was a good article. I had never read that one before. Thanks for posting it.
I've been LMAO at this whole thread because from the beginning I thought it was as fake as the Ciara article posted a few days ago. (LOL @ Cinnie for tying them together)
Come on people. Don't believe everything you read.
I'm not saying she couldn't be low on cash (see TLC) but I'm just saying that you have to examine the source of the info first.
Even if she were down to 20k, all she would have to do is do a mini tour and throw a label mate like Ne-Yo or the Dream or someone like Karina that canj't afford to ask for much money and would be glad not to be sitting home watching her video on BET and she'd be good in a month. Do a few cities where they will pay to see her regardless of circumstances (Seattle, NY, San Fran. Vancouver B.C., etc.) and boom - in a couple of weeks her money problems would be on hold until she burnt through what she made.
Even when celebs are broke, they're not usually "broke" unless someone has done something very foul, they have a bad drug habit or they owe the IRS.

carlcranshaw said:

That was a good article. I had never read that one before. Thanks for posting it.
I've been LMAO at this whole thread because from the beginning I thought it was as fake as the Ciara article posted a few days ago. (LOL @ Cinnie for tying them together)
Come on people. Don't believe everything you read.
I'm not saying she couldn't be low on cash (see TLC) but I'm just saying that you have to examine the source of the info first.
Even if she were down to 20k, all she would have to do is do a mini tour and throw a label mate like Ne-Yo or the Dream or someone like Karina that canj't afford to ask for much money and would be glad not to be sitting home watching her video on BET and she'd be good in a month. Do a few cities where they will pay to see her regardless of circumstances (Seattle, NY, San Fran. Vancouver B.C., etc.) and boom - in a couple of weeks her money problems would be on hold until she burnt through what she made.
Even when celebs are broke, they're not usually "broke" unless someone has done something very foul, they have a bad drug habit or they owe the IRS.

She has nothing to do with her career, she has NO publishing,so everytime her songs get played she makes ZERO dollars. I dont care what she sells worldwide, it dont mean shit if you dont write or have some form of input, why do you think Beyonce puts her name on everything! Others are getting rich of this girl, its no different than Toni Braxton, Tlc or any other hit making machine of the day that has no input in their career.

And her tours net her shit, when you take out the sponsors the road crews, the people that tag along that having to do with anything, you are left with nothing but the rented clothes on your back.

My advice to Rihanna, get yourself a clothing line. get yourself perfume deals. Music nets nothing, at least for Produced artists like yourself. Dint everyone think it was strange that of the 20 top money makers of females in music, Rihanna was nowhere to be found?

Its not even about it being fake or real, I mean come on, the net is full of about 5% truth, so its not about that. Its more the idea of Rihanna not having a clue about $$ and where it goes, once again the FACT is she was not even a blip on the radar of FEMALE singers getting paid last year, that shows the lack of involvement of her personally, whatever way you wanna cut this, if you dont write or put your shows together and have OVERSIGHT to who is watching the books, you are a nobody. This article could be about "countless" artists, look at homeboy Scott Storch, dude lost his house and his cars and all that other shit, granted he is an ego-maniac who lived a "hammer" like life, but i doubt Rihanna doesnt have "an entourage" thats sucking up the cash. as for touring for cash, she wouldnt make anything for the simple fact that the mere rentals of places and advertising, her band, her crews and promoters and radio spots etc..would suck up all that dough, plus she is on that list of "pop stars" of the day that can sell a million records, but cant come close to putting asses in seats for a live show.

Personally, I don't think she's worth all of the fuss people make over her. She's not that talented to me. I guess being "pop" has its privileges? [/b][/color]