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Reply #120 posted 08/18/08 7:41am

midnightmover

Cloudbuster said:

midnightmover said:


rolleyes I never said it was. You asked a question about a relatively unimportant part of my previous post. I took the time to answer the question. That is all.


Important enough for you to mention it in the first place, tho'. wink

It was one word out of a larger sentence. I could have easily used the word British. It didn't really matter. The point is George is ordinary. And as it happens he danced and dressed gay. It's not a big deal, but it seems like that one adjective is out of bounds in some people's minds. Bollocks to that. Gay, gay, gay. razz
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Reply #121 posted 08/18/08 7:49am

Stymie

midnightmover said:

Cloudbuster said:



Important enough for you to mention it in the first place, tho'. wink

It was one word out of a larger sentence. I could have easily used the word British. It didn't really matter. The point is George is ordinary. And as it happens he danced and dressed gay. It's not a big deal, but it seems like that one adjective is out of bounds in some people's minds. Bollocks to that. Gay, gay, gay. razz
It just seems like you can't make a valid point without getting personal.
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Reply #122 posted 08/18/08 8:28am

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Stymie said:

midnightmover said:


It was one word out of a larger sentence. I could have easily used the word British. It didn't really matter. The point is George is ordinary. And as it happens he danced and dressed gay. It's not a big deal, but it seems like that one adjective is out of bounds in some people's minds. Bollocks to that. Gay, gay, gay. razz
It just seems like you can't make a valid point without getting personal.


He makes valid points?
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Reply #123 posted 08/18/08 9:59am

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Cloudbuster said:

Stymie said:

It just seems like you can't make a valid point without getting personal.


He makes valid points?



midnightmover is sick. he joked about the Holocaust and now he think he's funny joking about gay cliches as well.

As if MJ doesn't dress gay in it's original meaning. And why did he has to make the thread about MJ and Gm as personals? It was about their talent.

he should get banned!
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Reply #124 posted 08/18/08 10:01am

Stymie

graecophilos said:

Cloudbuster said:



He makes valid points?



midnightmover is sick. he joked about the Holocaust and now he think he's funny joking about gay cliches as well.

As if MJ doesn't dress gay in it's original meaning. And why did he has to make the thread about MJ and Gm as personals? It was about their talent.

he should get banned!
dude, we got orgers calling other orgers "nigga bitch" and others joking about someone's sick mother. there are no consequences for stuff like this apparently.
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Reply #125 posted 08/18/08 10:08am

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Stymie said:

Cloudbuster said:



Important enough for you to mention it in the first place, tho'. wink
Exactly. And what was the point of calling Michael gay?

That's how midnightmover is. He's firmly believes Michael is gay and won't believe otherwise lol Everything midnightmover says is "fact" lol


Who cares who's better? They make the best damn music I've ever heard
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Reply #126 posted 08/18/08 10:13am

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #127 posted 08/18/08 10:18am

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Stymie said:

Exactly. And what was the point of calling Michael gay?

That's how midnightmover is. He's firmly believes Michael is gay and won't believe otherwise lol Everything midnightmover says is "fact" lol


Who cares who's better? They make the best damn music I've ever heard


Rat own (right on)! cool
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Reply #128 posted 08/18/08 12:22pm

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BTW, in 2004 GM said he thinks Prince and Michael Jackson were far more talented than himself.
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Reply #129 posted 08/18/08 4:40pm

khemseraph

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I'm shocked that anybody would say that GM can outsing MJ. GM is great at what he does. But, to say that he can outsing MJ is a bit far. But, it's all relative anyway. why compare. biggrin

i think mj has more talent(s)..but george can outsing him.gm is the best male voice goin...since luthor past over.
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Reply #130 posted 08/18/08 5:52pm

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khemseraph said:

Bishop31 said:

I'm shocked that anybody would say that GM can outsing MJ. GM is great at what he does. But, to say that he can outsing MJ is a bit far. But, it's all relative anyway. why compare. biggrin

i think mj has more talent(s)..but george can outsing him.gm is the best male voice goin...since luthor past over.


If MJ has more talent, then why do u think George can outsing him? Is there a song in GM's catalogue that U think MJ couldn't sing well?
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Reply #131 posted 08/18/08 6:34pm

Stymie

Bishop31 said:

khemseraph said:


i think mj has more talent(s)..but george can outsing him.gm is the best male voice goin...since luthor past over.


If MJ has more talent, then why do u think George can outsing him? Is there a song in GM's catalogue that U think MJ couldn't sing well?
wink
i don't think Michael could handle a different corner.
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Reply #132 posted 08/18/08 10:46pm

Annika

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Stymie said:

Bishop31 said:



If MJ has more talent, then why do u think George can outsing him? Is there a song in GM's catalogue that U think MJ couldn't sing well?
wink
i don't think Michael could handle a different corner.


Really? I actually think Different Corner is one GM song Michael could handle very well. I think he would sound beautiful.

Dammit, now you've made me want to hear a non-existant cover. confused
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Reply #133 posted 08/19/08 4:36am

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Annika said:

Stymie said:

i don't think Michael could handle a different corner.


Really? I actually think Different Corner is one GM song Michael could handle very well. I think he would sound beautiful.

Dammit, now you've made me want to hear a non-existant cover. confused


U never know. Maybe he reads the Org & may get an idea for his next album.. lol
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Reply #134 posted 08/19/08 5:37am

Timmy84

Bishop31 said:

Annika said:



Really? I actually think Different Corner is one GM song Michael could handle very well. I think he would sound beautiful.

Dammit, now you've made me want to hear a non-existant cover. confused


U never know. Maybe he reads the Org & may get an idea for his next album.. lol


I hope not. Last thing Michael Jackson needs to do is a covers album. confused
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Reply #135 posted 08/19/08 5:39am

SoulAlive

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midnightmover is sick. he joked about the Holocaust and now he think he's funny joking about gay cliches as well.

As if MJ doesn't dress gay in it's original meaning. And why did he has to make the thread about MJ and Gm as personals? It was about their talent.

he should get banned!


lol...you guys should just ignore the attention-seeking,troll types that come to this site wink
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Reply #136 posted 08/19/08 6:52am

midnightmover

lol, I love it! All the bitter orgers with their grudges all coming out of the woodwork to vent their grievances. That's funny. lol

Anyway, like I said this thread is wackier than anything you'd find on a UFO sightings website. GM can outsing MJ? Wow. There are no words. Really.
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Reply #137 posted 08/19/08 6:54am

midnightmover

graecophilos said:

Cloudbuster said:



He makes valid points?



midnightmover is sick. he joked about the Holocaust and now he think he's funny joking about gay cliches as well.

As if MJ doesn't dress gay in it's original meaning. And why did he has to make the thread about MJ and Gm as personals? It was about their talent.

he should get banned!

Yeah, MJ does dress a bit gay, but as I explained earlier his attitude on stage was anything but gay.
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Reply #138 posted 08/19/08 6:57am

midnightmover

bboy87 said:

Stymie said:

Exactly. And what was the point of calling Michael gay?

That's how midnightmover is. He's firmly believes Michael is gay and won't believe otherwise lol Everything midnightmover says is "fact" lol


Who cares who's better? They make the best damn music I've ever heard

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. All the evidence points to either homosexuality or (possibly) asexuality, but the asexual case is extremely flimsy compared to the homo case.
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Reply #139 posted 08/19/08 8:40am

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midnightmover said:

graecophilos said:




midnightmover is sick. he joked about the Holocaust and now he think he's funny joking about gay cliches as well.

As if MJ doesn't dress gay in it's original meaning. And why did he has to make the thread about MJ and Gm as personals? It was about their talent.

he should get banned!

Yeah, MJ does dress a bit gay, but as I explained earlier his attitude on stage was anything but gay.


The fact that you can consider any attitude to be "gay" or not demonstrates how extremely little you really know about the sexuality (like so many other things you like to spout off about). Michael may well be gay, but if he is, it is due to his attraction to men, not his flamboyant clothes.
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Reply #140 posted 08/19/08 9:09am

Zeezow

Annika said:

midnightmover said:


Yeah, MJ does dress a bit gay, but as I explained earlier his attitude on stage was anything but gay.


The fact that you can consider any attitude to be "gay" or not demonstrates how extremely little you really know about the sexuality (like so many other things you like to spout off about). Michael may well be gay, but if he is, it is due to his attraction to men, not his flamboyant clothes.


thumbs up! thumbs up! thumbs up!
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Reply #141 posted 08/19/08 9:15am

midnightmover

Annika said:

midnightmover said:


Yeah, MJ does dress a bit gay, but as I explained earlier his attitude on stage was anything but gay.


The fact that you can consider any attitude to be "gay" or not demonstrates how extremely little you really know about the sexuality (like so many other things you like to spout off about). Michael may well be gay, but if he is, it is due to his attraction to men, not his flamboyant clothes.

falloff LOL, it was a gay person who made the comment about Michael dressing gay. lol I simply acknowledged it, but made it clear I didn't regard it as very significant. Go back and read it again. And if you seriously think the only difference between gay and straight people is who they're attracted to then you are naive in the extreme. How old are you, 12?
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Reply #142 posted 08/19/08 12:54pm

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midnightmover said:

Annika said:



The fact that you can consider any attitude to be "gay" or not demonstrates how extremely little you really know about the sexuality (like so many other things you like to spout off about). Michael may well be gay, but if he is, it is due to his attraction to men, not his flamboyant clothes.

falloff LOL, it was a gay person who made the comment about Michael dressing gay. lol I simply acknowledged it, but made it clear I didn't regard it as very significant. Go back and read it again. And if you seriously think the only difference between gay and straight people is who they're attracted to then you are naive in the extreme. How old are you, 12?
[Edited 8/19/08 9:18am]

Yup, you got me, I am twelve years old. Congrats, mate! thumbs up!
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Reply #143 posted 08/19/08 1:57pm

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midnightmover said:

Annika said:



The fact that you can consider any attitude to be "gay" or not demonstrates how extremely little you really know about the sexuality (like so many other things you like to spout off about). Michael may well be gay, but if he is, it is due to his attraction to men, not his flamboyant clothes.

falloff LOL, it was a gay person who made the comment about Michael dressing gay. lol I simply acknowledged it, but made it clear I didn't regard it as very significant. Go back and read it again. And if you seriously think the only difference between gay and straight people is who they're attracted to then you are naive in the extreme. How old are you, 12?
[Edited 8/19/08 9:18am]


you mean me?
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Reply #144 posted 08/20/08 8:35am

midnightmover

graecophilos said:

midnightmover said:


falloff LOL, it was a gay person who made the comment about Michael dressing gay. lol I simply acknowledged it, but made it clear I didn't regard it as very significant. Go back and read it again. And if you seriously think the only difference between gay and straight people is who they're attracted to then you are naive in the extreme. How old are you, 12?
[Edited 8/19/08 9:18am]


you mean me?

Yes.
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Reply #145 posted 08/20/08 8:46am

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Reply #146 posted 08/20/08 9:09am

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Timmy84 said:

To be perfectly honest, comparing MJ to GM is like comparing apples and oranges. And it's not really a fair comparison either.

George and Wham! were partially influenced by Michael's work both solo and with the Jackson 5/Jacksons. George Michael, for one, is a BIG fan of R&B music so Michael's influence was already crept in when he first came out.

Plus in terms of vocal appeal, come on, just because both guys can sing falsetto real good don't mean that they should have a vocal battling contest. Clearly MJ and GM have vocally performed in diverse tastes over the years.

Plus George doesn't like to dance and never considered himself a dancer. Maybe he's more of a mover though. Michael however is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, dancers to walk the face of the earth.

Plus George and Michael are great entertainers in their own way when they each perform live.

One's black and American, another's Greek and from London, one's about to be 50, another already turned 45. One man's biggest seller is "Thriller", the other's "Faith".

They each celebrated a 25th anniversary of some part of their career.

But other than that, not really much of a fair comparison.

Perfect, I couldn't say it any better. I dig them both. I'm more of a MJ fan but I'm a fan of GM's work too and they both are so unique in their style and their music. They rock!
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Reply #147 posted 08/20/08 4:11pm

guitargirl

I feel that they are both wonderful , and sometimes very misunderstood and highly talented people !!!! And I love all of their music ! However , sometimes one of them is not given enough credit sometimes and is very under-rated , and made fun of waaaay too much than need be . And I think you can figure out which ONE of them that I am refering to . biggrin
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Reply #148 posted 08/20/08 9:23pm

khemseraph

Bishop31 said:

khemseraph said:


i think mj has more talent(s)..but george can outsing him.gm is the best male voice goin...since luthor past over.


If MJ has more talent, then why do u think George can outsing him? Is there a song in GM's catalogue that U think MJ couldn't sing well?
wink

because mj can sing and dance and write some songs..but he is not the singer george is.
mj has talent(s)..plural
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Reply #149 posted 08/21/08 2:37am

LightOfArt

I dont see(hear) how George has the better voice out of the two. To my ears Michael has one of the most unique and influential voices in music.

I just began to get in to GM material the last year and he's great too
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