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Reply #60 posted 08/15/08 2:52pm

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bboy87 said:

JackieBlue said:



lol
Slow but beautiful! Wham's stuff is a bit dated but not GM's IMO. His ballads are borderline standards that hold up well. When George does do uptempo it's usually on point. Other than OTW, MJ's uptempo sounds dated especially the tracks that were with the hot producers of the moment.

George needs to do more uptempo because I was not feeling "Feeling Good" lol


Yeah, not one of my favorites either.
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Reply #61 posted 08/15/08 2:52pm

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Stymie said:

bboy87 said:


runs and pushes several 4th graders over to get in thread

Am I gonna have to put a hit out on graecophilos? This ain't funny! lol

Michael or George??? Even though George is #2, Michael is still that dude.

George's stuff from 1996 has been so damn slow save for Amazing, Fastlove, and a couple others. Michael's stuff isn't really dated, but most of Wham's stuff is dated, save for Careless Whisper, If You Were There, Blue, and I'm Your Man

Here is the true conclusion,


if I see another thread like this, I'll send LisaRaye to bite some bitches! evillol
I'm a MJ fan, believe it or not. lol

and I think most of his stuff sounds dated.


Some of Michael's songs sound dated, but most of his songs sound very fresh and will never date. I don't know how anyone can think George Michael is more talented than Michael Jackson. That's like saying Bon Jovi are better than The Beatles, and that Lenny Kravitz is a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix. George Michael is bland, period. His music is suited to playing on the telephone when you wait in line to talk to a bank etc, it's that bland.
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Reply #62 posted 08/15/08 2:56pm

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Please waste your condescension on someone else. Thanks. Sheesh. rolleyes
Don't engage him. He's baiting.


Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact.
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Reply #63 posted 08/15/08 3:02pm

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BenS71 said:

Stymie said:

Don't engage him. He's baiting.


Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact.


man, you've got 2 problems:

1.) you UNDERappreciat GM
2.) you act like one of MJs wack fans who adore every thing he does.
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Reply #64 posted 08/15/08 3:13pm

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Waiting For That Day makes me cry. Was just listening to it today.
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Reply #65 posted 08/15/08 3:50pm

FunkyBrotha

people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..

no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus..

why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm.

Black or White
Billie Jean
Earth song
man in the mirror
liberian girl
who's lovin you
Beat It
Stranger in Moscow


every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say.

compared with

Careless Whisper
Jesus to a Child
Father Figure
Waiting for that day
Praying for Time...

they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades.
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Reply #66 posted 08/15/08 3:54pm

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BenS71 said:

Michael Jackson is a genius of singer, dancer and songwriter/composer. George Michael has a brilliant singing voice, but he's an overrated performer and his music is just pedestrian disco music.

It's an insult to music to compare a much lesser talent like George Michael to a musical genius like Michael Jackson.



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Reply #67 posted 08/15/08 3:55pm

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CosmicDancer said:

m.j

Michael was born with Godlike Status...
It seemed to take a few years before George caught on with most people that appreciate quality vocalists...
Michael was a Phenomenon out the BOX !



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Reply #68 posted 08/15/08 4:37pm

Stymie

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Stymie said:

Don't engage him. He's baiting.


Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact.
That's your opinion. He's greater to you.
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Reply #69 posted 08/15/08 4:38pm

Stymie

FunkyBrotha said:

people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..

no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus..

why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm.

Black or White
Billie Jean
Earth song
man in the mirror
liberian girl
who's lovin you
Beat It
Stranger in Moscow


every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say.

compared with

Careless Whisper
Jesus to a Child
Father Figure
Waiting for that day
Praying for Time...

they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades.
Yeah I have nothing better to do. confused It's a shame opinions can't actually be repsected when it comes to the subject of MJ.
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Reply #70 posted 08/15/08 6:21pm

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fuck the bullshit! I'm goin to my nwo self and hijackin' this thread!

Time for GM and MJ pictures!







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Reply #71 posted 08/15/08 6:25pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #72 posted 08/15/08 6:29pm

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waiting for that day - is one of my favourite tracks of all time....

but i also love "human nature", "PYT" and "can't help it"

I think Michael's 70's and 80's dance tracks are better than George's. But GM is really good with ballads and more convincing...
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Reply #73 posted 08/15/08 7:04pm

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Are you fucking kidding me? lol
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Reply #74 posted 08/15/08 7:26pm

TheMightyCeles
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Well, George has a better voice.
However,
Michael does have more siblings.
So I guess they're about head to head.
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Reply #75 posted 08/15/08 10:13pm

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Singing talent? I'd say they're on par with each other.


Overall talent? I'd give that one to Michael.



i agree , but george michael has shown his tallent much more over the last ? 10 15 years. he makes better use of it. and that sums up this comparison
par on the singing department there both great although we dont know how mj sounds live nowadays. overall talent michael.
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Reply #76 posted 08/15/08 10:35pm

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That third pic of MJ with the bow tie? WTFIT?
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Reply #77 posted 08/15/08 11:22pm

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raw talent? MJ.

what they do with it? GM, but only marginally at this point. the lack of output (and quality output) from the 2 of them in the last decade is appalling for pop artists of their calibre.


loved the GM show in Chicago though. he isn't so far gone, like MJ, that he can't redeem himself with another album.
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Reply #78 posted 08/16/08 2:12am

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This is my answer. biggrin
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #79 posted 08/16/08 2:14am

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FunkyBrotha said:

people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..

no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus..

why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm.

Black or White
Billie Jean
Earth song
man in the mirror
liberian girl
who's lovin you
Beat It
Stranger in Moscow


every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say.

compared with

Careless Whisper
Jesus to a Child
Father Figure
Waiting for that day
Praying for Time...

they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades.



sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl??
And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list.

And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented.
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Reply #80 posted 08/16/08 2:16am

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graecophilos said:

FunkyBrotha said:

people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..

no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus..

why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm.

Black or White
Billie Jean
Earth song
man in the mirror
liberian girl
who's lovin you
Beat It
Stranger in Moscow


every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say.

compared with

Careless Whisper
Jesus to a Child
Father Figure
Waiting for that day
Praying for Time...

they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades.



sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl??
And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list.

And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented.

OK, it is probably impossible to compare their singing and writing skills, but I´ve never seen GM dance the way MJ does.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #81 posted 08/16/08 2:18am

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dag said:

graecophilos said:




sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl??
And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list.

And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented.

OK, it is probably impossible to compare their singing and writing skills, but I´ve never seen GM dance the way MJ does.



yep, that's true. As an entertainer MJ plays in another universe than GM.
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Reply #82 posted 08/16/08 3:05am

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I think MJ is deeply musical though he's not a musician. He wrote some of the biggest pop hits at an very young age, but if you compare what each of them did at the same age I think george Michael is the better artist.

GM was 20 when he recorded Make It Big! He wrote Last Christmas, Go-Go, Everything She Wants for it. (an at 17 Careless Whisper)!! The rest of the songs are listenable as well!

MJ when he was twenty: OTW was mainly produced by Quincy Jones, only three songs by MJ and (imo) the best ones wrote Rod Temperton!

When they were 25: Michael worked on Thriller. Again, he wrote only 4 songs (but they're fantastic).
GM wrote FAITH. not only did he write ALL the songs on it, they're also fantastic and hav great lyrics. they're intimate and deep and sensitive.

I just think that MJ's best albums are the ones where he didn't write all of the songs. He can definitively write great songs but he's not as talented to carry a whole album with meaningful songs!

And just compare what George Michael did in his 30s! Michael Jackson could have never achieved this!

I'm seeking for some hot arguments!

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I agree with a previous poster- they are different and both great- why does one have to be better?

Michael Jackson is a musician- he played instruments on all his albums- more so on Dangerous, HIStory and Invincible. Michael writes with his mouth- he beatboxes all the instruments onto a tape, and the music is transposed from there.

What about Destiny and triumph? almost co-written and written completely by Michael. These albums came before OTW and before Thriller. Michael is a very talented writer.

I agree again with a previous poster who said it's impossible to compare their writing skills. As for vocals, it's a matter of who you prefer- as they are both amazing-, and I am pretty sure you all know who I am gonna say is best.
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Reply #83 posted 08/16/08 3:11am

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no who?
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Reply #84 posted 08/16/08 3:20am

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both r good. and for me at different times, depending on where i am in my life.
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Reply #85 posted 08/16/08 4:26am

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Empress said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:




George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird.



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Reply #86 posted 08/16/08 4:32am

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Empress said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:




George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird.



Honey, he was having a bad hair day
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Reply #87 posted 08/16/08 5:27am

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tane1976 said:

Empress said:



George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird.



Honey, he was having a bad hair day


I can hardly see his hair. Well, sometimes I hink his body morphed. He looks so different from 1988.
One thing is clear, GM doesn't look like 45
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Reply #88 posted 08/16/08 5:55am

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Reading the title of this thread, the answer is MJ. Simple. natural born talent.
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Reply #89 posted 08/16/08 6:22am

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Fuck that! I got to get in on this. Now if we're talking about Michael pre-Thiller (some people seem to think his carrer did'nt start until OTW) it's Michael hands down. Imo Michael is one of the top five singers in motown history I love george's voice but shit let's be real Michael was a superstar when george was trying to get his carrer started.
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