bboy87 said: JackieBlue said: Slow but beautiful! Wham's stuff is a bit dated but not GM's IMO. His ballads are borderline standards that hold up well. When George does do uptempo it's usually on point. Other than OTW, MJ's uptempo sounds dated especially the tracks that were with the hot producers of the moment. George needs to do more uptempo because I was not feeling "Feeling Good" Yeah, not one of my favorites either. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Stymie said: bboy87 said: runs and pushes several 4th graders over to get in thread Am I gonna have to put a hit out on graecophilos? This ain't funny! Michael or George??? Even though George is #2, Michael is still that dude. George's stuff from 1996 has been so damn slow save for Amazing, Fastlove, and a couple others. Michael's stuff isn't really dated, but most of Wham's stuff is dated, save for Careless Whisper, If You Were There, Blue, and I'm Your Man Here is the true conclusion, if I see another thread like this, I'll send LisaRaye to bite some bitches! and I think most of his stuff sounds dated. Some of Michael's songs sound dated, but most of his songs sound very fresh and will never date. I don't know how anyone can think George Michael is more talented than Michael Jackson. That's like saying Bon Jovi are better than The Beatles, and that Lenny Kravitz is a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix. George Michael is bland, period. His music is suited to playing on the telephone when you wait in line to talk to a bank etc, it's that bland. BenS71 | |
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Stymie said: VoicesCarry said: Please waste your condescension on someone else. Thanks. Sheesh. Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact. BenS71 | |
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BenS71 said: Stymie said: Don't engage him. He's baiting.
Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact. man, you've got 2 problems: 1.) you UNDERappreciat GM 2.) you act like one of MJs wack fans who adore every thing he does. | |
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Waiting For That Day makes me cry. Was just listening to it today. | |
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people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..
no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus.. why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm. Black or White Billie Jean Earth song man in the mirror liberian girl who's lovin you Beat It Stranger in Moscow every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say. compared with Careless Whisper Jesus to a Child Father Figure Waiting for that day Praying for Time... they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades. | |
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BenS71 said: Michael Jackson is a genius of singer, dancer and songwriter/composer. George Michael has a brilliant singing voice, but he's an overrated performer and his music is just pedestrian disco music.
It's an insult to music to compare a much lesser talent like George Michael to a musical genius like Michael Jackson. | |
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CosmicDancer said: m.j
Michael was born with Godlike Status... It seemed to take a few years before George caught on with most people that appreciate quality vocalists... Michael was a Phenomenon out the BOX ! | |
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BenS71 said: Stymie said: Don't engage him. He's baiting.
Your baiting by actually saying Michael Jackson's music sounds dated, and George Michael's doesn't. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. Sure George Michael is talented, but he's a nobody compared to Michael Jackson. That's not an opinion but a fact. | |
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FunkyBrotha said: people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..
Yeah I have nothing better to do. It's a shame opinions can't actually be repsected when it comes to the subject of MJ.no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus.. why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm. Black or White Billie Jean Earth song man in the mirror liberian girl who's lovin you Beat It Stranger in Moscow every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say. compared with Careless Whisper Jesus to a Child Father Figure Waiting for that day Praying for Time... they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades. | |
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fuck the bullshit! I'm goin to my nwo self and hijackin' this thread!
Time for GM and MJ pictures! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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waiting for that day - is one of my favourite tracks of all time....
but i also love "human nature", "PYT" and "can't help it" I think Michael's 70's and 80's dance tracks are better than George's. But GM is really good with ballads and more convincing... | |
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Are you fucking kidding me? | |
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Well, George has a better voice.
However, Michael does have more siblings. So I guess they're about head to head. | |
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Imago said: Singing talent? I'd say they're on par with each other.
Overall talent? I'd give that one to Michael. i agree , but george michael has shown his tallent much more over the last ? 10 15 years. he makes better use of it. and that sums up this comparison par on the singing department there both great although we dont know how mj sounds live nowadays. overall talent michael. | |
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That third pic of MJ with the bow tie? WTFIT? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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raw talent? MJ.
what they do with it? GM, but only marginally at this point. the lack of output (and quality output) from the 2 of them in the last decade is appalling for pop artists of their calibre. loved the GM show in Chicago though. he isn't so far gone, like MJ, that he can't redeem himself with another album. | |
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bboy87 said: This is my answer. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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FunkyBrotha said: people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..
no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus.. why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm. Black or White Billie Jean Earth song man in the mirror liberian girl who's lovin you Beat It Stranger in Moscow every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say. compared with Careless Whisper Jesus to a Child Father Figure Waiting for that day Praying for Time... they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades. sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl?? And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list. And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented. | |
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graecophilos said: FunkyBrotha said: people who state that george michael is better than mj are only saying it because its easy to diss mj..
no wonder he's been compared to fucking jesus.. why do ppl not have the guts to tell the truth when it comes to mj.. its so much easier. and im sorry but mj's songs are far more complex and far more original than gm. Black or White Billie Jean Earth song man in the mirror liberian girl who's lovin you Beat It Stranger in Moscow every single song is completely unique.. and im sorry but none of the above sound 'dated' what a ridiculous thing to say. compared with Careless Whisper Jesus to a Child Father Figure Waiting for that day Praying for Time... they are all pretty well crafted songs with great vocals... but nothing truly original.. people have been singing songs like that for decades. sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl?? And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list. And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented. OK, it is probably impossible to compare their singing and writing skills, but I´ve never seen GM dance the way MJ does. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: graecophilos said: sorry, but how can one say Jesus To a Child is less complex and deep than Liberian Girl?? And as or Man In The Mirror... MJ didn't even write it himself, so you gotta take this out of your list. And NO, don'T believe people say GM has more talent because they want to diss MJ. I like both of them, but I think GM actually IS more talented. OK, it is probably impossible to compare their singing and writing skills, but I´ve never seen GM dance the way MJ does. yep, that's true. As an entertainer MJ plays in another universe than GM. | |
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graecophilos said: I think MJ is deeply musical though he's not a musician. He wrote some of the biggest pop hits at an very young age, but if you compare what each of them did at the same age I think george Michael is the better artist.
GM was 20 when he recorded Make It Big! He wrote Last Christmas, Go-Go, Everything She Wants for it. (an at 17 Careless Whisper)!! The rest of the songs are listenable as well! MJ when he was twenty: OTW was mainly produced by Quincy Jones, only three songs by MJ and (imo) the best ones wrote Rod Temperton! When they were 25: Michael worked on Thriller. Again, he wrote only 4 songs (but they're fantastic). GM wrote FAITH. not only did he write ALL the songs on it, they're also fantastic and hav great lyrics. they're intimate and deep and sensitive. I just think that MJ's best albums are the ones where he didn't write all of the songs. He can definitively write great songs but he's not as talented to carry a whole album with meaningful songs! And just compare what George Michael did in his 30s! Michael Jackson could have never achieved this! I'm seeking for some hot arguments! I agree with a previous poster- they are different and both great- why does one have to be better? Michael Jackson is a musician- he played instruments on all his albums- more so on Dangerous, HIStory and Invincible. Michael writes with his mouth- he beatboxes all the instruments onto a tape, and the music is transposed from there. What about Destiny and triumph? almost co-written and written completely by Michael. These albums came before OTW and before Thriller. Michael is a very talented writer. I agree again with a previous poster who said it's impossible to compare their writing skills. As for vocals, it's a matter of who you prefer- as they are both amazing-, and I am pretty sure you all know who I am gonna say is best. www.maximum-jackson.com
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no who? | |
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both r good. and for me at different times, depending on where i am in my life. | |
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Empress said: FuNkeNsteiN said: George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird. Honey, he was having a bad hair day 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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Empress said: FuNkeNsteiN said: George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird. Honey, he was having a bad hair day 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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tane1976 said: Empress said: George has some problems with drugs, but MJ is just plain weird. Honey, he was having a bad hair day I can hardly see his hair. Well, sometimes I hink his body morphed. He looks so different from 1988. One thing is clear, GM doesn't look like 45 | |
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Reading the title of this thread, the answer is MJ. Simple. natural born talent. | |
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Fuck that! I got to get in on this. Now if we're talking about Michael pre-Thiller (some people seem to think his carrer did'nt start until OTW) it's Michael hands down. Imo Michael is one of the top five singers in motown history I love george's voice but shit let's be real Michael was a superstar when george was trying to get his carrer started. | |
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