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Thread started 08/11/08 8:39am

MattyJam

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Artists who were over 30 when they broke into the industry...

Seems to be very rare in this age-obsessed industry.

Wasn't Tori Amos 30 when Little Earthquakes dropped??

Can anybody think of any others?
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Reply #1 posted 08/11/08 9:23am

TonyVanDam

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True funk soldiers can correct me if I'm wrong, but Rick James was age 30 when he finally had a proper debut album release (Come And Get It).
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Reply #2 posted 08/11/08 9:24am

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Millie Jackson
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Reply #3 posted 08/11/08 10:14am

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Graycap23 said:

Millie Jackson

Millie was in her 20s when she made her first record. Her first album dropped when she was 27 or 28.
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Reply #4 posted 08/11/08 10:14am

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Keith Sweat was either 30 or damn near 30 when his career blew up.
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Reply #5 posted 08/11/08 10:40am

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daPrettyman said:

Graycap23 said:

Millie Jackson

Millie was in her 20s when she made her first record. Her first album dropped when she was 27 or 28.
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Reply #6 posted 08/11/08 12:21pm

theAudience

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I'm pretty sure Bill Withers was over 30 when...



...Just As I Am was released.


He wouldn't get in the front door today.
(based on age and quality of material)



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Reply #7 posted 08/11/08 12:27pm

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I'm not sure how to go about this question?

Most artists toil for years (doing gigs at clubs, minor bits here and there, achieve regional/cult praise) before they finally hit the big time. Are we estimating artists based on when they first started dabbling with the craft or when they finally get signed record an album?
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Reply #8 posted 08/11/08 12:31pm

theAudience

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Mara said:

I'm not sure how to go about this question?

Most artists toil for years (doing gigs at clubs, minor bits here and there, achieve regional/cult praise) before they finally hit the big time. Are we estimating artists based on when they first started dabbling with the craft or when they finally get signed record an album?

Based on that criteria, the question certainly becomes moot.
I took it to mean national recognition (major album release).



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Reply #9 posted 08/11/08 12:52pm

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theAudience said:

Mara said:

I'm not sure how to go about this question?

Most artists toil for years (doing gigs at clubs, minor bits here and there, achieve regional/cult praise) before they finally hit the big time. Are we estimating artists based on when they first started dabbling with the craft or when they finally get signed record an album?

Based on that criteria, the question certainly becomes moot.
I took it to mean national recognition (major album release).



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I see. Well, I know of a lot of artists who released their debuts when they were 30 or older, but were in the industry well beforehand, toiling in minor roles like a drummer, backup singer, session musician, etc.

For instance, The Presets (an indie/electronic music duo) got signed Modular/Universal when they were 30+ and released their debut album Beams in 2006. But for years before they got signed, they were still in the industry, but were session musicians for Silverchair and one was a local club DJ with a record on a small label (while in their 20s).

So my mind is loopy over this question. lol
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Reply #10 posted 08/11/08 1:03pm

theAudience

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Mara said:


I see. Well, I know of a lot of artists who released their debuts when they were 30 or older, but were in the industry well beforehand, toiling in minor roles like a drummer, backup singer, session musician, etc.

For instance, The Presets (an indie/electronic music duo) got signed Modular/Universal when they were 30+ and released their debut album Beams in 2006. But for years before they got signed, they were still in the industry, but were session musicians for Silverchair and one was a local club DJ with a record on a small label (while in their 20s).

So my mind is loopy over this question. lol

So true.

We'll have to let MattyJam clarify and un-loop this deal. smile


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Reply #11 posted 08/11/08 1:14pm

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I wasn't thinking so much about when an artist has their commercial peak, but more about artists who managed to break into the industry as a new act past the age of 30.

I really can't think of many... which is very sad.

Of course, I'm certain many labels tell their acts to lie about their age and claim to be younger than they really are. Someone like Beyonce for example... I find it hard to believe she is only 26.
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Reply #12 posted 08/11/08 1:19pm

graecophilos

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Neil Tennant and Chris Lowe aka The Pet Shop Boys
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Reply #13 posted 08/11/08 1:45pm

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theAudience said:

I'm pretty sure Bill Withers was over 30 when...
...Just As I Am was released.

nod

As I recall, he was close to 40 when he debuted lol
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Reply #14 posted 08/11/08 2:47pm

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Al Jarreau was over 30 when he started recording.
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Reply #15 posted 08/11/08 6:54pm

WildheartXXX

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Sheryl Crow springs to mind. She was over 30 when Tuesday Night Music Club came out. I think with rap/hip-hop/r&b and pop music you've virtually no chance of breaking into the industry at that age. Particularly rap/hip hop, you're over the hill. Rock music/alternative and country and i think you've a better chance. Those genres are more resistant to trends and i don't think the listeners care as much about the image etc.
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Reply #16 posted 08/12/08 12:27am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

theAudience said:

I'm pretty sure Bill Withers was over 30 when...
...Just As I Am was released.

nod

As I recall, he was close to 40 when he debuted lol

eek Damn dude he wasn't that old. Closer to 33. smile


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Reply #17 posted 08/12/08 1:35am

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theAudience said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


nod

As I recall, he was close to 40 when he debuted lol

eek Damn dude he wasn't that old. Closer to 33. smile


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Oh? lol

For some reason, I remembered he was 37 or so lol
Ah well, thanks for the correction wink
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Reply #18 posted 08/12/08 3:17am

BaileyWalker

Staind Lead Singer looks old maybe early 40's
Eminem was 28
Cyndi Lauper was in her 30's
Ginuwine looked like he was like 35+ years old when he hit
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/08 3:57am

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Debbie Harry was about 31-32 when Blondie released their first single and album in 1977.
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Reply #20 posted 08/12/08 7:22am

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I wish it was still the same
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Reply #21 posted 08/12/08 7:36am

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Andy Summers of The Police. He was in various bands in the 60's but when The Police broke through he was over 30 or somewhere near there.
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Reply #22 posted 08/12/08 7:54am

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im sure luther was at least 30 when his debut hit, the guy had already had a long career as a great studio singer
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Reply #23 posted 08/12/08 8:04am

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MattyJam said:

I wasn't thinking so much about when an artist has their commercial peak, but more about artists who managed to break into the industry as a new act past the age of 30.

I really can't think of many... which is very sad.

Of course, I'm certain many labels tell their acts to lie about their age and claim to be younger than they really are. Someone like Beyonce for example... I find it hard to believe she is only 26.


There's no way Bey's 26. lol I saw her supposed birth certificate online and she's in her late 30s.
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Reply #24 posted 08/12/08 8:20am

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MattyJam said:

I wasn't thinking so much about when an artist has their commercial peak, but more about artists who managed to break into the industry as a new act past the age of 30.

I really can't think of many... which is very sad.

Of course, I'm certain many labels tell their acts to lie about their age and claim to be younger than they really are. Someone like Beyonce for example... I find it hard to believe she is only 26.


There's no way Bey's 26. lol I saw her supposed birth certificate online and she's in her late 30s.


she's almost 27, and how do you explain the tapes of her dancing with the other girls on Star Search?
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BaileyWalker said:

Staind Lead Singer looks old maybe early 40's
Eminem was 28
Cyndi Lauper was in her 30's
Ginuwine looked like he was like 35+ years old when he hit



eek
I don't think so. Elgin Lumpkin did NOT look that old at all. Come on, the dude was born in 1970.
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lowkey said:

im sure luther was at least 30 when his debut hit, the guy had already had a long career as a great studio singer

He was 30 when his "solo" album dropped, but he was much younger when he was with the group "Luther" (like 25 or 26).
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Reply #27 posted 08/12/08 9:53am

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daPrettyman said:

BaileyWalker said:

Staind Lead Singer looks old maybe early 40's
Eminem was 28
Cyndi Lauper was in her 30's
Ginuwine looked like he was like 35+ years old when he hit



eek
I don't think so. Elgin Lumpkin did NOT look that old at all. Come on, the dude was born in 1970.


he claimed to be 21 or something then though, and my friends though 18. Looking back, it creeps me out that my 13 year old self back then thought he was fiiiine, ewwww
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Reply #28 posted 08/12/08 9:56am

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guitarslinger44 said:

MattyJam said:

I wasn't thinking so much about when an artist has their commercial peak, but more about artists who managed to break into the industry as a new act past the age of 30.

I really can't think of many... which is very sad.

Of course, I'm certain many labels tell their acts to lie about their age and claim to be younger than they really are. Someone like Beyonce for example... I find it hard to believe she is only 26.


There's no way Bey's 26. lol I saw her supposed birth certificate online and she's in her late 30s.

It had 2 b a fake certificate. Beyonce was born in 1981. Hell, she was only 16 when DC hit it big.
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