Cinnie said:

I feel you. That part is hot.

Christopher said:

Ohhh shiitt, THAT'S MY SONG, Chris. Mannn, that's the cutt. I'm feeling you definitely on that one.

daPrettyman said:

If I have to hear those 2 songs again I think I will vomit. They aren't bad but they are nothing special and they've been played to death, at least on the station that plays Wendy Williams, WBLS.

purplecam said:

I think it's like that around the country. I listen to WBLS everyday for Wendy and I do hear it quite a bit. I also listen to KJLH in LA and they do the same. The station that is the worst of all for playing this song is KRNB in Dallas. They rotate these songs out every hour. Man, that gets old very quick.

RenHoek said:

Excellent thing to point out, Digital has caused this "disconnect", that is the best definition i have heard for what exists now. I guarantee that if you ask everyone whats your "summer song" this year it wont be something that we know or share, go back to the 80's and we would say "yeah thats a good one" or at least share in the admiration, now its more about convincing.

Moonbeam said:

to me that is it. alongside Kylie's In My Arms. i hear them at least thrice aday each here in europe.

lastdecember said:

To all you 80s people. Times have changed and its not a bad thing. so just get over it. so what if everyone doesn't like the same song. They sure love the soldier boy song. I didn't but like everyone else did. So your theory is untrue.

TotalAlisa said:

Rihanna's Disturbia is the summer song.

TotalAlisa said:

Stupid comment, its not about everyone liking the same song, not everyone dug the same thing in the 80's but you can have the conversation and the stuff was out there, someone could say, an 80's summer was everyone from George Michael,to janet to michael to prince to madonna to Bruce springsteen to huey lewis or hall and oates. Now everyone is seaching their minds to come up with one song that a very small fraction of people even bought, you can talk about downloads and all that crap, but music is not relevant to peoples lives the way it was, and when you live enough live and look at all genres of music and its effect you will learn this, its not just whats on your radio or makes you dance, thats a dumb theory.

Maybe No Air was the song of the summer???

4everYoung said:

I guess worldwide this one comes close being the summer hit of 2008,
but like many have said here...not like the years/decades be4.

Fuck. You mean the summer's over?

I didn't do anything.

RenHoek said:

This is so true. Also, it seems that with there being more ways to share music than ever, the actual desire to share music is almost non-existent these days. So much music is compartmentalized these days that everyone seems to be more and more into their own "category" and not interested in "crossover" songs. Its a shame.
There's no summer song because the labls didn't assign us one.

On a side note, I did a thread on Lady Gaga a while back. t didn't seem to take off that well.

BlaqueKnight said:

Exactly, i think that people dont realize that computers and the internet have lead to people making less contact with people not more, which is the lie you hear people tell. In reality posting a message or talking online you still are making zero contact.

As for the summer song idea, that will not happen again, and it hasnt happend in awhile, the reasons are, one, the crossover appeal that was already suggested, and second, music has lost its relevance in the world today for the most part. Meaning its not the background to what is going on anymore, its not important to the generation now the way it was. Im sure we all have a favorite song this summer, but i can guarantee my song is not even on your radar and vice versa. However in years past i could say a year, say 1984 and all of use would rattle off the whole damn summer, and its got NOTHING to do with age and all of use being older now, because i listen to just as music now as i did then as im sure all of you do too, but that element of its importance is gone.

BlaqueKnight said:

Exactly, i think that people dont realize that computers and the internet have lead to people making less contact with people not more, which is the lie you hear people tell. In reality posting a message or talking online you still are making zero contact.

As for the summer song idea, that will not happen again, and it hasnt happend in awhile, the reasons are, one, the crossover appeal that was already suggested, and second, music has lost its relevance in the world today for the most part. Meaning its not the background to what is going on anymore, its not important to the generation now the way it was. Im sure we all have a favorite song this summer, but i can guarantee my song is not even on your radar and vice versa. However in years past i could say a year, say 1984 and all of use would rattle off the whole damn summer, and its got NOTHING to do with age and all of use being older now, because i listen to just as music now as i did then as im sure all of you do too, but that element of its importance is gone.

lastdecember said:

I'm calling bullshit on this! Just because you may not like a particular song or artist doesn't mean that there is no summer jam of the year. Just from what I've seen in the "popular" media, it's obvious that Lil Wayne's "Lollipop" and Katy Perry's "I Kissed A Girl" are the biggest hits this summer. Sure, these songs may be pieces of crap, but they are busting out of speakers all over the place, and they are the most posted songs in the MySpace and Facebook profiles. Your response smacks of snobbishness, yhich you are entitled to, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people like these songs.

728huey said:

Thats meaningless. I happen to dig Katy Perry a little bit, but even though the song is everyowhere doesnt make it the summer song, thats where everyone is losing the point here. Its not about being played the most, both of the songs mentioned have a very "categorized" audiences and are NOT crossover songs by any means at all. These songs are gone from the memory quite fast, they dont even make a dent. No one is going to say in 10 years "Lollipop summer of 2008" no freaking way in hell, and its got nothing to do with liking or not liking, music has losts that kind of impact to the masses.

lastdecember said:

I dont' care about music like you. Your whole life revolves around music. and im sorry not everyone lives their life for music like you seem to do.

I don't care what is on the radio and what is not, because i haven't listen to the radio in so many years. and you can still have conversation now. and even more because now we can have more to talk about instead of agreeing on the same thing. because if this were the 80s and we had one summer song, then that conversation would be short.

music is still relevant to people, why do you think everyone has an ipod and people walk around all day listening to music?

Im glad today we can listen to our own favorite kind of music. and be an individual.

You don't make any sense. the only reason why you feel this way is because in the 80s you were younger. Im pretty sure your tastes in life has changed since then, so why make a big deal about the music changing.

lastdecember said:

people today are more wicked, crazy and arrogant then ever. So not i don't care to meet those people and go up to complete strangers. We don't live in those times. We live in dangerous times today. Its not as safe as it was during the 80s.
Why do you think things being different is bad. nothing is going to stay the same forever. Just get over it. Its not a bad thing. You 80s people just want to relive your youth. and you trash talk this young generation. But im pretty sure during the 80s the adults from the 60s and 70s was complaining about the 80s. So you have become one of them now

and your favorite summer song was probably the PCD

728huey said:

thanks. im glad someone did. Those people are like 35 plus and complaining about our generation. They have become old farts who complain about how times have changed. They just won't get over the 80s and its sad.


I can understand them complaining that the music today is crap cause it really is (its understandable cause who doesn't want to hear quality music at any age), but complaining that we don't all have a summer song or sing to the same tune is so stupid.

They are old anyways and should not be focusing on whats happening in our young generation. They aren't even apart of.

TotalAlisa said:

Wow that is so ignorant and close minded and its beyond belief. Total fucking bullshit rattled by someone who has no clue. Try reading the post before you comment, and thinking that age is important you just summed up the stupid ass genertion, and the reason why you have 9 year olds making music.

TotalAlisa said:

Dumb Dumb Dumb. You have no clue what you are even speaking on, and you have no clue what i listen too, because its almost all new made by artists i like, and the fact that you think in terms of AGE defining your playlist shows how clsoe minded you are but im not surprised by the things you have rattled of. And you also totally contadict yourslef becuase you post about JANET JACKSON not selling because she wasnt promoted properly, guess what she didnt sell BECAUSE SHE IS TOO OLD and she is making music that she hopes 15 year olds will buy and they arent buying here because they think like you do in terms of age. Theere is the difference in times and i know that many will agree on that. Look at any chart from the 70's 80's or whatever and you will see artists that range from 25-45 and were accepted by all, now you are lucky if you find anyone over 25 making music because age is all anyone thinks about and if you are over 25 you are finished, dumb fucking shit and why you have the talent you do.

And also you put down eras and yet you dont even realize that todays music is stolen from it, Rihannas whole career is an 80's song, Lil Wayne's "lollipo" is based on two 80's guitar riffs, and Katy Perry's song that is everywhere, was already everywhere 20 years ago. And if you read the post you would READ that it didnt say there was NO SUMMER SONG it said the idea of it and what it meant was GONE! try reading.

And last but not least your comment on PCD is even stupidier and contradicting yourslef more, because if i was close minded and stuck in the 80's like you put it, why would i listen to them? Do me a favor stop commenting on my posts unless you know what you are talking about.

TotalAlisa said:

Oh honey, no. The 80s were FAR MORE DANGEROUS TIMES. The crack and cocaine era where machine guns were on the street were way worse than the gentrified, sterilized times we live in now. Times are safer in general. we had fun despite those days, not because of them.
Its really more about the corporatization of music than how safe concert-going is. That combined with genres being so separate. I Kissed A Girl ain't getting play in the R&B and hip-hop spots much. Back in the day, a hot song got played because the DJs liked them and it was a hot record. Nowadays most music is targeted to a specific audience and theres a lot less of universally appealing songs, although its not completely dead. I think this year poeple got a little cheated, though.

BlaqueKnight said:

if you wanna believe the world is a safer place now then fine. but its really now.

and we still have crack cocain all that bad stuff and more. SINCE YOU GUYS ARE ALL COMPLAINING do something about it. MAKE SOME SONGS. create your own record label and stop supporting artist like the Pussy cat dolls and cassie.

lastdecember said:

and you better not be calling me dumb, because You really are.


I don't care about janet's record sales. Im not making a dime off that. and my life still goes on. Janet is just not popular anymore.

and just because you like the PCD doesn't mean you are not stuck in the 80s You like them and cassie because of how they look.
You like young women, and that has nothing to do with the 80s. If Janet made the same crap cassie and PCD you wouldn't even buy that or be listening to it


You pick and choose what you like. If there is something in the 2000's that benefits you then you like it, or if its something you don't like you compare it to the 80s, and put it down.

JUST GET OVER THE 80s. STOP comparing the way the 80s were to today. Alot of things are going to change. and its not bad.

TotalAlisa said:

I was simply addressing that one aspect of your post. Concerts are no more dangerous now than they were 15-20 years ago. Less so, in fact. I don't buy Pussycat Dolls or Cassie. You've read my posts. Your musical tastes tend to echo mine sometimes. I support GOOD new artists.
The fact is that the industry has changed and venues are also part of that. The Mays brothers who made Clear Channel what it is are also doing the same thing with LiveNation. Concert venues are becoming just like the record industry - controlled by a small group of individuals.

TotalAlisa said:

We are not a part of your generation but we have to listen to your music.

What upsets people of my age (I'm 49) is that the last two generations have gone backwards with music. Not just with the writing, but with the playing, too.

Go check out the thread about the Foo Fighters remake of "Baker Street". That was only a marginally successful song, and probably not in ANYONE'S "all-time classic" list. Again, an average song for the era.

But play it next to the Foo Fighters' version. Oh. My. God. The Foo Fighters make Gerry Raferty sound like the second coming of Beethoven. Not only can the Foo Fighters not WRITE anything near that good, they cannot even PLAY it as well as Rafferty's session musicians did.

That's what makes us oldtimers pissed off. For some reason, you young people quit learning how to play your instruments. And since you can't PLAY your instruments as well as we can, it is impossible for you to WRITE anything worthwhile.

This sounds like harsh criticism, but what you will find as you grow older is that it's disappointment.

We older people are counting on the younger generations to do BETTER than we did. But you're doing WORSE. Maybe it's our fault - I don't know. All I know for sure is that music and musicians have deteriorated over the last 15 years or so.

TotalAlisa said:

Again you have NO CLUE what are you talking about, find a post where i said CASSIE was anything musical??? Saying she is better than Rihanna is not a compliment by any means. And if i say that PCD make a good pop song its because they do, sorry, but if you wanna talk charts then look at their popularity if you wanna make it about that, you cant have it both ways. Also try reading some of my posts about other artists who make albums NOW and make better albums than anyone out there, you clearly are absent on these posts about real RB like Van Hunt, Rahsaan Patterson, or Angie Stone, you clearly or NOWHERE when im talking about john mellencamp, rick springfield, magne f, bruce springsteen, joni mitchell or ann wilson. You arent there because you dont wanna be there, if you are checking a CASSIE post it says more about you and what you wanna read.

And i unlike you always put down the artists i love when they do shit, i put down Mariah when she does a shit record, i put down Janet when she does a shitty record. Bowing down and saying everything they do is great is not being a fan, you will learn that some day. When your musical taste grows where you can accept NEW music of all genres and not because its on the radio but because its real and played by people who respect music than sorry your opinion on days that you never lived in are not valued.

RodeoSchro said:

Its not even that. Also you are trying to reason with someone who's mind is closed. And what i mean is, that kind of thinking is the norm today. And had it been the norm back then people like Stevie Wonder,ArethaFranklin, the Rolling Stones,Aerosmith and many many others would have dropped off the face off the earth during those times but they didnt, they had HITS along with the "kids" of the day, today that shit would never happen, thats the point. Its nothing to do with missing the old days like this person goes on about, because all the artists i listened to then i still do, you know why BECUASE THEY STILL RECORD NEW ALBUMS THAT ARE BETTER THAN ANYTHING OUT THERE! thats nothing to do with being older, old is a frame of mind and a number, and those who point it out are so afraid of their own "getting older" they think putting others down will salvage them.