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Thread started 07/20/08 5:36pm

mimi2

Another funky 80's track-"I'll Be Good" by Rene & Angela

I really like this track from 1985. This is one duet that doesn't sound corny. Some of you may remember that Foxy Brown scored her biggest hit by sampling the chorus of "I'll Be Good" along with the beat in her rap duet with Jay-Z in 1997.







NOTE: The video above is just the song playing with a pic of Rene & Angela's album. There is an official video for this song, but whoever posted it at youtube apparently doesn't want it linked anywhere else. If you want to see the official music video, it's here
http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related
[Edited 7/20/08 17:38pm]
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Reply #1 posted 07/20/08 6:23pm

DirtyChris

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LOVES IT

this album was really
my introduction to Rene & Angela

I can remember BEGGING
my cousin to let me have her vinyl
I was just a kid...
and hell you FOR SURE
ask for whtat you want as a kid
cuz you know 9/10 you'll get it
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #2 posted 07/20/08 7:33pm

VinnyM27

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I love this track so much that I gotta find the album it was featured on during my vinyl dig (probably Saturday). I hope it's a good album like DirtyChris says.
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Reply #3 posted 07/20/08 7:50pm

DirtyChris

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VinnyM27 said:

I love this track so much that I gotta find the album it was featured on during my vinyl dig (probably Saturday). I hope it's a good album like DirtyChris says.

I prefer Wall To Wall over
A Street Called Desire
but it's a good album
don't get me wrong, it's koo cool

"You Don't Have To Cry"
& "Your Smile" love

I was more into the balladry
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #4 posted 07/21/08 4:50am

SoulAlive

VinnyM27 said:

I love this track so much that I gotta find the album it was featured on during my vinyl dig (probably Saturday). I hope it's a good album like DirtyChris says.


I've been wanting to get this album too.I might get the CD,though.I think they added some bonus tracks.
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Reply #5 posted 07/21/08 5:34am

piepie1976

thanks for posting. i'd never heard the original before. i keep wanting to shout, "thats right ya'll, we drop hits. tell me, how nasty can u get? all the way from the hood to yo' neck o' the woods..."
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Reply #6 posted 07/21/08 6:37am

Cinnie

This jam always gets people whooping and hollering when I DJ!
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Reply #7 posted 07/21/08 6:43am

HamsterHuey

Never ever heard it before. Love it!

Loads.

If C. want me to holler I will.
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Reply #8 posted 07/21/08 8:57am

paisleypark4

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DirtyChris said:

LOVES IT

this album was really
my introduction to Rene & Angela

I can remember BEGGING
my cousin to let me have her vinyl
I was just a kid...
and hell you FOR SURE
ask for whtat you want as a kid
cuz you know 9/10 you'll get it



2 bad the album version sounds like a Billie Jean reject
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #9 posted 07/21/08 8:59am

DirtyChris

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paisleypark4 said:

DirtyChris said:

LOVES IT

this album was really
my introduction to Rene & Angela

I can remember BEGGING
my cousin to let me have her vinyl
I was just a kid...
and hell you FOR SURE
ask for whtat you want as a kid
cuz you know 9/10 you'll get it



2 bad the album version sounds like a Billie Jean reject

did they put out
another album after
ASCD? I wanna say
that was the finale

then Angela went solo
or got divorced or something
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #10 posted 07/22/08 3:03pm

vainandy

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mimi2 said:

I really like this track from 1985.


That was earlier than 1985. It was either 1981 or 1982 at the latest. Their 1985 hit was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

"I'll Be Good" was definately a great song. She should have stayed with Rene because they had much stronger stuff than her solo stuff. I hated all her solo work except for "Run To Me".
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #11 posted 07/22/08 3:12pm

DirtyChris

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vainandy said:

mimi2 said:

I really like this track from 1985.


That was earlier than 1985. It was either 1981 or 1982 at the latest. Their 1985 hit was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

"I'll Be Good" was definately a great song. She should have stayed with Rene because they had much stronger stuff than her solo stuff. I hated all her solo work except for "Run To Me".

he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #12 posted 07/22/08 3:15pm

vainandy

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DirtyChris said:

vainandy said:



That was earlier than 1985. It was either 1981 or 1982 at the latest. Their 1985 hit was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

"I'll Be Good" was definately a great song. She should have stayed with Rene because they had much stronger stuff than her solo stuff. I hated all her solo work except for "Run To Me".

he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it


That queen was a woman beater? What were they fighting over? Men? lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #13 posted 07/22/08 5:10pm

DirtyChris

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vainandy said:


That queen was a woman beater? What were they fighting over? Men? lol

funniest thing I read all day today lol

highfive
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #14 posted 07/22/08 5:22pm

mimi2

vainandy said:



That was earlier than 1985. It was either 1981 or 1982 at the latest. Their 1985 hit was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

"I'll Be Good" was definately a great song. She should have stayed with Rene because they had much stronger stuff than her solo stuff. I hated all her solo work except for "Run To Me".


Oh OK-thanks for the correction. I was just going off of what wikipedia said about the date. I agree that Angela's solo stuff wasn't that great, but that she & Rene were really good togther.



DirtyChris said:

he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it



How sad. sad In that case, I'm glad she got the hell out of there.
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Reply #15 posted 07/22/08 6:16pm

SoulAlive

"I'll Be Good" is a 1985 song.It's the second single from their 1985 album 'Street Called Desire'.The first single was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

In 1981,they were riding high with the hit "I Love You More",a funky midtempo jam.
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/08 6:32am

vainandy

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SoulAlive said:

"I'll Be Good" is a 1985 song.It's the second single from their 1985 album 'Street Called Desire'.The first single was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

In 1981,they were riding high with the hit "I Love You More",a funky midtempo jam.


Oh my God, you are absolutely right. I was getting "I'll Be Good" confused with "I Love You More". Sorry Mimi.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #17 posted 07/23/08 7:52pm

phunkdaddy

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DirtyChris said:

vainandy said:



That was earlier than 1985. It was either 1981 or 1982 at the latest. Their 1985 hit was "Save Your Love (For #1)" featuring Kurtis Blow.

"I'll Be Good" was definately a great song. She should have stayed with Rene because they had much stronger stuff than her solo stuff. I hated all her solo work except for "Run To Me".

he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it


I don't think he ever beat her. The way Renee told it back in the 80's on radioscope was that he and angela got into an argument in the studio during a recording session for the isley brothers(ronald and rudolph after O'kelly died)and the other 3 brothers formed isley jasper isley and ronald isley intervened. That was basically how renee and angela fell out and Ronald and Angela's bond grew tighter professionally and personally. In fact the song ronald and angela recorded hello beloved was originally done by renee and angela and they went to court over it. Angela lied and said that she never recorded it with Renee and Renee played their version on the radio and angela was busted. lol
There was definitely some drama with Renee and Angela and later Ronald
and Angela.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #18 posted 07/24/08 8:59am

SoulAlive

phunkdaddy said:

DirtyChris said:


he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it


I don't think he ever beat her. The way Renee told it back in the 80's on radioscope was that he and angela got into an argument in the studio during a recording session for the isley brothers(ronald and rudolph after O'kelly died)and the other 3 brothers formed isley jasper isley and ronald isley intervened. That was basically how renee and angela fell out and Ronald and Angela's bond grew tighter professionally and personally. In fact the song ronald and angela recorded hello beloved was originally done by renee and angela and they went to court over it. Angela lied and said that she never recorded it with Renee and Renee played their version on the radio and angela was busted. lol
There was definitely some drama with Renee and Angela and later Ronald
and Angela.


Scandalous! lol It's a shame those two couldn't get along.They made great music together.
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Reply #19 posted 07/25/08 6:21pm

alphastreet

I remember loving I'll Be in the late 90's and thinking it sounded like Thriller back then, then later on I wondered what song it sampled, I guess I just found my answer and I love it!
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Reply #20 posted 07/27/08 9:59am

DirtyChris

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alphastreet said:

I remember loving I'll Be in the late 90's and thinking it sounded like Thriller back then, then later on I wondered what song it sampled, I guess I just found my answer and I love it!

wow... did it really sample "Thriller"? lol
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #21 posted 07/27/08 10:23am

alphastreet

DirtyChris said:

alphastreet said:

I remember loving I'll Be in the late 90's and thinking it sounded like Thriller back then, then later on I wondered what song it sampled, I guess I just found my answer and I love it!

wow... did it really sample "Thriller"? lol


of course it doesn't, I was young and silly then.
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Reply #22 posted 07/27/08 10:24am

DirtyChris

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alphastreet said:

DirtyChris said:


wow... did it really sample "Thriller"? lol


of course it doesn't, I was young and silly then.

I was joking cool
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #23 posted 07/27/08 3:43pm

dseann

It's in my i-pod. It just reminds me sooo much of listening to 98.7 KISS FM back in the mid-80's in New York. I loved this song to death and still do.
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Reply #24 posted 07/27/08 4:03pm

Harlepolis

phunkdaddy said:

DirtyChris said:


he was a woman beater
(more technically an "Angela Winbush beater")
I believe that had something
to do with it


I don't think he ever beat her. The way Renee told it back in the 80's on radioscope was that he and angela got into an argument in the studio during a recording session for the isley brothers(ronald and rudolph after O'kelly died)and the other 3 brothers formed isley jasper isley and ronald isley intervened. That was basically how renee and angela fell out and Ronald and Angela's bond grew tighter professionally and personally. In fact the song ronald and angela recorded hello beloved was originally done by renee and angela and they went to court over it. Angela lied and said that she never recorded it with Renee and Renee played their version on the radio and angela was busted. lol
There was definitely some drama with Renee and Angela and later Ronald
and Angela.


Bruce Swedien(their albums recording engineer) might have disagreed with you on that note(the physical abuse).

Supposedly, Angela tried to tell Rene HOW to play some notes or something of that sort during one of their recordings of Street Called Desire and he ended up Ike Turnering her all over the studio. You could sense from the album's mood that there were some drama going on in the background. I don't think Angela spoke a word of the abuse but its a legen among the industry peers. Stephanie Mills(her friend) talked about her own situation of physical abuse and said thats among the reasons why she and ANGELA have so many things in common(in some radio interview).

She def picked some deadbeats as husbands, Ron Isley picked up on what Rene left.

And the lawsuit was about I Learned To Respect The Power Of Love which Angela took the full credit for when both artists(Rene & Angie) wrote it.

What an exceptional talent though, Rene Moore was a talented musician too but he was such a Mic Murphy copycat, at least Angela was a unique talent and IMO she's the one who made the "Rene & Angela" team intersting and attractive.
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Reply #25 posted 07/29/08 12:24am

SoulAlive

Wow! Harlepolis seems to have the scoop!
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Reply #26 posted 07/29/08 7:56am

dseann

Harlepolis said:

phunkdaddy said:



I don't think he ever beat her. The way Renee told it back in the 80's on radioscope was that he and angela got into an argument in the studio during a recording session for the isley brothers(ronald and rudolph after O'kelly died)and the other 3 brothers formed isley jasper isley and ronald isley intervened. That was basically how renee and angela fell out and Ronald and Angela's bond grew tighter professionally and personally. In fact the song ronald and angela recorded hello beloved was originally done by renee and angela and they went to court over it. Angela lied and said that she never recorded it with Renee and Renee played their version on the radio and angela was busted. lol
There was definitely some drama with Renee and Angela and later Ronald
and Angela.


Bruce Swedien(their albums recording engineer) might have disagreed with you on that note(the physical abuse).

Supposedly, Angela tried to tell Rene HOW to play some notes or something of that sort during one of their recordings of Street Called Desire and he ended up Ike Turnering her all over the studio. You could sense from the album's mood that there were some drama going on in the background. I don't think Angela spoke a word of the abuse but its a legen among the industry peers. Stephanie Mills(her friend) talked about her own situation of physical abuse and said thats among the reasons why she and ANGELA have so many things in common(in some radio interview).

She def picked some deadbeats as husbands, Ron Isley picked up on what Rene left.

And the lawsuit was about I Learned To Respect The Power Of Love which Angela took the full credit for when both artists(Rene & Angie) wrote it.

What an exceptional talent though, Rene Moore was a talented musician too but he was such a Mic Murphy copycat, at least Angela was a unique talent and IMO she's the one who made the "Rene & Angela" team intersting and attractive.



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