Does anyone have any concrete reasons why they think Rock is dying? My main reason is because they primarily sample blues licks, they have sampled damn near every blues lick or phrase to death.

There is NOTHING left 2 steal.....and they never really had much to say just repeating stuff they heard in blues records.

rock is about rebellion and outrageousness.

right now, the music industry is about playing it safe. if you can project a painfully user-friendly image as a musical act, you're in.

that does not define most of what we consider to be true "rock" artists.

the tide will turn, things will cycle, they always do.

this is the age of modern day pat boones and sandra dees. miley cyrus and the jonas brothers are the new frankie and annette. everything in the top 40 has been manipulated and sanitized for your entertainment comfort.

it'll get old enough to matter to the industry sooner or later. just not, apparently, right now.

Alamine said:

Rock hasn't been about the blues since the 70's. If anything, the further away from the blues the bands got, they worse they were.

"Stare/where/scared/Stare/there/fair" rhyme schemes.

We can save it, if we want to.
Make it better.
Stronger.
Faster.

We have the technology.

Same old tired (electric) guitar. Anyone can pick up the guitar and suddenly make a rock song.

Q.

Why is rock dying?

A. Emo

Cinnie said:

there's no presentation in rock right now, other than the old standbys who have been doing the same thing forever, bless them. there are no new rock acts willing to take a chance and be offensive or crude or gender-bendy or generally nutso in a way that grabs people's attention. rock is safe and willfully derivative right now. it's tepid and vanilla. you could have the greatest, wildest guitar licks in a song ever right now, but if the band looks like a bunch of casual friday office schmucks, what's the point?

Cinnie said:

Did anyone catch my OneRepublic reference? Gawd I hate that song.

Too much industry, not enough music

Because it didn't take care of it's own health.

Anxiety said:

So long as they're family wholesome, superficiality and manufactured empty is all the rage.

If I had kids I'd much rather have them exposed to sexuality and words than this mindless drivel that only serves to perpetuate more vacancy.

Rock is so fuckin ROCKIN.....its up to bands like these to keep it alive
www.myspace.com/stillroomrock
peace and b wild

In what sense is Rock music dying?!


Iron Maiden, Muse, Foo Fighters have all played huge shows in the UK this year, their popularity as high as ever.

Whilst underneath the surface bands like Down are proving that there is still something new and interesting to offer, even, yes, taking Blues as a blueprint.


There is lots happening in the world of Rock at the moment, just because some folk can't be bothered to dig down into more than just the slop that is spoon fed to them via TV/ commercial radio doesn't mean that it isn't there.
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Alamine said:

Oh my.....where have I read this before?

maybe it just died on the radio, there is not a strong radio movement for 'rock', and its up to folks to seek good music in general out where they can these days, mysapce, itunes, your friends playlist on his page, word of mouth, youtube etc

Meloh9 said:

Cinnie said:

isn't that what they say about hip hop & sequencers?

There is good rock, just not much of it. Jack White is doing good rock. Radiohead is doing good rock. They are not trying to fit a specific format, though, they're doing their own thing. That's what makes not only good rock but good music in general.

NDRU said:

This obviously is a play on sh*t hop digs.....

With that said Rock is hurting if you only approach it from a mainstream point of view. The regression of rock in the last 15 yrs can be as follows....

Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains restore kick ass music that is accepted by mainstream K rock/MTV listeners.

Before that HairBands were big and while some of it was cool, image was more valuable than substance.

Now come the copycats... Creed, etc.... have 4-6 yrs of pain, thank Jesus when they break up.

Then I have to hear about Creed #2... Nickelback, although they seem to be nice guys, I think on an originality scale they are going backwards..

Then add EMO Rock, which has whiney vocals and we are further doomed when those begin to sell millions.

Metal is doing good stuff now, great musicianship, most are virtuosos on instruments.... The big missing ingredient to any ROCK band is and will continue to be the lead singer.

Without a Bruce Dickison, Chris Cornell, R J Dio, Ozzy, Freddy,Dave Grohl, or AXL mainstream rock will continue to be less than stellar.

But there are great new rock bands that just are not played on stations. Satellite radio and my space are good places to check them out.

Music listening is about exploration you need to go back to move forward so I also blame the listeners who accept mediocrity for greatness.

BUT REMEMBER THIS.. Even a mainstream poppy band like Nickelback still writes and performs all of their music live....

I happen to see MTV/FUSE at the gym sometimes... Guess what Rappers are still using Chicks with fat booty's, rings and bling, cars, and scarface to sell videos of "music" that takes a part of an actual instrument loops it and some guy spits some "real" lyrics over it. There is nothing innovative going on for the most part.

you hip hop fans are too blame for accepting this mediocrity also, just as much as rock fans are guility.
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In the words of lenny, ROCK AND ROLL IS DEAD!!!

alphastreet said:

he should know, he's sucked it's corpse for years!

I didn't know rock was dying. There is a rock station in my area that plays new rock. No, it doesn't sound like rock we listened to back in the 1980s (good rock) but it is still rock even though it sounds like just a bunch of screaming and loud overpowering guitars.

That's more than I can say for funk though. At least y'all still have rock, even if it ain't good rock. Now, me not liking today's rock....yeah, that's a matter of getting old and not liking the new generation's rock. But funk on the other hand, there's no funk, not even shitty new funk. Funk is completely gone and has been replaced with shit hop. That's not a matter of getting old and not liking the new generation's funk (because there is none), that's because shit hop actually ain't shit.

vainandy said:

Here is why rock is dying:

Nirvana and grunge rock. Before those ultimate buzz kills came along, rock was about partying, getting wasted and getting laid.

Then the world's worst generation came along (yes, I am talking to you if you are between 18 and 30) and all those depressed retards could write about was how much life sucked.

THAT is what ruined rock.

There's more, but I'm too pissed off to expand on it. I just thank God I grew up in the '70's.

Alamine said:

two words! KURT COBAIN!!!!!

Totally disagree about Nirvana. Crappy hair metal was big at the time and they came along and said fuck that, we're just here to rock it. No stupid image (yes, it later became the image) and no ridiculous guitar wanking. (shred style)

They totally put an end to this (thankfully):

SexGod said:

I think people miss "the image" and "the shredding".

Cinnie said:

That may be true. Its all a cycle.