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Printablethis singing debate is old news. I like her voice though her voice is not powerful. And some live vocals (BAT anyone???) are horrible, but still funny to listen to. Indeed, I love when she fucks up!
Please more quotes from Chris. And yeah, he was right, she shoudl take singing lessons regulary. She clearly trains her voice before she tours. Also she had lessons for Evita and Dick Tracy. | |
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Matronik said: About the Girlie Show:
Not that she would ever do it herself...she is utterly terrified of confrontation, avoids it at all costs, can never bring herself to fire anyone face-to-face, and always delegates that task to one of her minions, usually me." that's new for me. I always thought she has no fear of being confrontative. | |
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I forgot to mention. The dilettantism and lack of respect for craft also explains her attempts at directing and book writing. She is not qualified for any of these activities. (Don't like to revive a Madge thread, but they're good illustrations of my (and Christopher's) point, that I should have mentioned earlier).  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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There you go again...giving career advice to the most successful female artist of all time.Do you even realize how ridiculous you look? 
If Madonna wants to write children's books.then so be it.You don't really need no "qualifications" to do this,anyway.Many celebrities write children's books.I think your problem with Madonna is,she's doing all the things that SHE wants to do in her career.You resent this....gotta keep the bitch in her place,right?  How dare she try to achieve so much! | |
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midnightmover said: I forgot to mention. The dilettantism and lack of respect for craft also explains her attempts at directing and book writing. She is not qualified for any of these activities. (Don't like to revive a Madge thread, but they're good illustrations of my (and Christopher's) point, that I should have mentioned earlier).
And exactly what qualified Chirstopher Ciccone to write a book? I read parts of the book and it is very badly written, much worse than her childrens' books. The only reason it was published was because he was Madonna's brother not because of his great qualifications as a writer. | |
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SoulAlive said: There you go again...giving career advice to the most successful female artist of all time.Do you even realize how ridiculous you look?
If Madonna wants to write children's books.then so be it.You don't really need no "qualifications" to do this,anyway.Many celebrities write children's books.I think your problem with Madonna is,she's doing all the things that SHE wants to do in her career.You resent this....gotta keep the bitch in her place,right? How dare she try to achieve so much!----- No body cares about what Maddonna achieves why can't you accept that some of us do not care for her music or her voice. The fact that she has sold millions of records means nothing since numerous rap groups and disco artist have sold millions and that does not mean they have any talent. Maddonna is good at marketing herself she found that gay male audience and they supports her. Good for her. It is does not make her talented. | |
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kibbles said: moreover, she didn't come across as the slightly "ghetto" person i remembered from truth or dare. maybe it was age, but she was much more confident and self-assured and...i don't know what the word is.
it reminded me, though, of a comment i read by a poster on another site about one of the dancers in the movie (the black guy in bed with madonna in one scene). it seems this dancer was really a rather reserved, serious and studious man who taught dance, but in the movie he was behaving like he wasn't that educated (in the words of the poster who had taken his class.) those two examples made me wonder if nikki and this guy felt that had to behave conform to a "black" stereotype on a certain level that didn't upstage madonna or that made her feel comfortable in her superiority trip ('cause she definitely was on one in that film.) maybe they just wanted to get paid and did what they had to do. but i've always wondered about nikki's career choices after seeing her. [Edited 7/14/08 12:55pm] it probably has more to do with the fact that they were being observed and filmed in much looser, private moments for Truth or Dare than they would be while putting on a concert of their own or instructing a class. | |
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laurarichardson said: SoulAlive said: There you go again...giving career advice to the most successful female artist of all time.Do you even realize how ridiculous you look?
If Madonna wants to write children's books.then so be it.You don't really need no "qualifications" to do this,anyway.Many celebrities write children's books.I think your problem with Madonna is,she's doing all the things that SHE wants to do in her career.You resent this....gotta keep the bitch in her place,right? How dare she try to achieve so much!----- No body cares about what Maddonna achieves why can't you accept that some of us do not care for her music or her voice. The fact that she has sold millions of records means nothing since numerous rap groups and disco artist have sold millions and that does not mean they have any talent. Maddonna is good at marketing herself she found that gay male audience and they supports her. Good for her. It is does not make her talented. SoulAlive doesn't really get it. To him if someone is selling millions then they are beyond criticism. Superhuman. I don't know why he even bothers listening to music. He should just pay someone to recite sales figures for him and listen to that all day since that's obviously what floats his boat. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Glindathegood said: midnightmover said: I forgot to mention. The dilettantism and lack of respect for craft also explains her attempts at directing and book writing. She is not qualified for any of these activities. (Don't like to revive a Madge thread, but they're good illustrations of my (and Christopher's) point, that I should have mentioned earlier).
And exactly what qualified Chirstopher Ciccone to write a book? I read parts of the book and it is very badly written, much worse than her childrens' books. The only reason it was published was because he was Madonna's brother not because of his great qualifications as a writer. Please. Christopher's book is a kiss and tell printed in book form. A kiss and tell does not require skill to write because no one's reading it for it's literary merit anyway. Madonna's book is a work of fiction which actually does require a certain amount of skill and craft. Skill and craft which she does not possess. That's the point. I shouldn't need to explain this. It should be obvious. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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errant said: kibbles said: moreover, she didn't come across as the slightly "ghetto" person i remembered from truth or dare. maybe it was age, but she was much more confident and self-assured and...i don't know what the word is.
it reminded me, though, of a comment i read by a poster on another site about one of the dancers in the movie (the black guy in bed with madonna in one scene). it seems this dancer was really a rather reserved, serious and studious man who taught dance, but in the movie he was behaving like he wasn't that educated (in the words of the poster who had taken his class.) those two examples made me wonder if nikki and this guy felt that had to behave conform to a "black" stereotype on a certain level that didn't upstage madonna or that made her feel comfortable in her superiority trip ('cause she definitely was on one in that film.) maybe they just wanted to get paid and did what they had to do. but i've always wondered about nikki's career choices after seeing her. [Edited 7/14/08 12:55pm] it probably has more to do with the fact that they were being observed and filmed in much looser, private moments for Truth or Dare than they would be while putting on a concert of their own or instructing a class. but wouldn't you think that a camera being on them would make them more circumspect, not less? i saw that film, and i think they were all very aware of the camera's presence, and there wasn't anything loose or private about it. [Edited 7/21/08 9:08am] | |
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kibbles said: errant said: it probably has more to do with the fact that they were being observed and filmed in much looser, private moments for Truth or Dare than they would be while putting on a concert of their own or instructing a class. but wouldn't you think that a camera being on them would make them more circumspect, not less? i saw that film, and i think they were all very aware of the camera's presence, and there wasn't anything loose or private about it. [Edited 7/21/08 9:08am] i agree to a certain extent, that they were definitely aware of it and playing to it at certain points. on the other hand, i would imagine you get used to it being there and more reality comes out in front of it than you might expect. | |
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it's hilarious to me that people are still saying she has no talent
WOW! She herself has admitted that she is not the best singer, best dancer, best actress but to say she has no talent? 
if anything, she has amazing talent putting together a catchy pop song and delivering it to an audience but then I guess, there's no justification for her success at all except for whoredom? REALITY CHECK! | |
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