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Reply #240 posted 07/15/08 2:49am

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Janfriend said:



I don't know what else that can be but a black man

He definetly could be anything other than black. He looks like he could be a mestizo like Carlos Leon or middle eastern. I've even seen half asian half white people who look like that. The only thing he doesn't look is black or white.

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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.

In American if you look black you are black.
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Reply #241 posted 07/15/08 2:53am

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Evvy said:



this looks "black to you"?





Yes, those lips are a dead giveaway.
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Reply #242 posted 07/15/08 3:07am

Arnotts

laurarichardson said:

Arnotts said:


He definetly could be anything other than black. He looks like he could be a mestizo like Carlos Leon or middle eastern. I've even seen half asian half white people who look like that. The only thing he doesn't look is black or white.

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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.


In American if you look black you are black.

But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.
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Reply #243 posted 07/15/08 3:09am

Arnotts

laurarichardson said:

Evvy said:



this looks "black to you"?





Yes, those lips are a dead giveaway.

Not really. I have similar looking lips and I'm not black.
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Reply #244 posted 07/15/08 3:17am

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laurarichardson said:

Arnotts said:


He definetly could be anything other than black. He looks like he could be a mestizo like Carlos Leon or middle eastern. I've even seen half asian half white people who look like that. The only thing he doesn't look is black or white.

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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.

In American if you look black you are black.


You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.

Prince does look black to me, but I'm also influenced by what I know (i.e. that he has black parentage). If I saw him walking down the street, I would think that he could very well have African ancestry, but he could equally well be of North African, Near Eastern or Middle Eastern origin, or something completely different. Or a combination of all of the above.

The world is not black and white.
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Reply #245 posted 07/15/08 3:50am

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laurarichardson said:


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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.

In American if you look black you are black.


You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.

Prince does look black to me, but I'm also influenced by what I know (i.e. that he has black parentage). If I saw him walking down the street, I would think that he could very well have African ancestry, but he could equally well be of North African, Near Eastern or Middle Eastern origin, or something completely different. Or a combination of all of the above.

The world is not black and white.

Prince is one of those people that could be anything if you had no idea of his racial make up. Rap a turban around his head and he could be middle eastern. Add a mustache and sombrero and he could be Mexican. Put an afro on his head and he could just get away with being black. Add very pale make-up and he could pass for white. Sure there are probably other black people who look like him but I'm willing to bet people get their racial identity confused as well.
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Reply #246 posted 07/15/08 5:39am

Timmy84

Yo, June7, close this thread down before I continue to give out these pictures:



lol
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Reply #247 posted 07/15/08 5:46am

SoulAlive

Arnotts said:

laurarichardson said:


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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.


In American if you look black you are black.



But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.


I totally disagree with you.Prince DOES look black.He looks like a light skinned black man,which is what he is.Remember,blacks come in many different shades wink
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Reply #248 posted 07/15/08 6:11am

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There are millions of people out there that think Mariah Carey is white. I've had arguments twice in the office in the last couple of years, explaining she's mixed. But people see what they see i guess.

Must say i don't see much MJ in those kids tho. Don't see what difference it makes personally. As long as he's a good dad to them, who gives a crap.
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Reply #249 posted 07/15/08 6:48am

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laurarichardson said:


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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.


In American if you look black you are black.

But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.

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No, you do not have to know P’s parentage to know that he is African-American. Anyone that has been around African-Americans in America would no that he is black and Mike’s kids are not going to be P’s complexion because I do not think Mike is the biological father of those children.
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Reply #250 posted 07/15/08 6:55am

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Annika said:

laurarichardson said:


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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.

In American if you look black you are black.


You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.

Prince does look black to me, but I'm also influenced by what I know (i.e. that he has black parentage). If I saw him walking down the street, I would think that he could very well have African ancestry, but he could equally well be of North African, Near Eastern or Middle Eastern origin, or something completely different. Or a combination of all of the above.

The world is not black and white.

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“You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.”



I understand that not living in America there are a lot of things you do not know. You can live in Europe or some other part of the world and call people whatever you like.
In America if you look black you are black. You are free to call yourself whatever you want but, trust me you are going to perceived by everyone as being black and you are going to be treated in a certain way. So in the end it would do no good for a black person to delude themselves that they are not black because they are a little light. In addition, one should take pride in their race and not fell ashamed.

I wish the world of the US was not black and white but for now it still is.
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Reply #251 posted 07/15/08 6:58am

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Arnotts said:

Annika said:



You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.

Prince does look black to me, but I'm also influenced by what I know (i.e. that he has black parentage). If I saw him walking down the street, I would think that he could very well have African ancestry, but he could equally well be of North African, Near Eastern or Middle Eastern origin, or something completely different. Or a combination of all of the above.

The world is not black and white.

Prince is one of those people that could be anything if you had no idea of his racial make up. Rap a turban around his head and he could be middle eastern. Add a mustache and sombrero and he could be Mexican. Put an afro on his head and he could just get away with being black. Add very pale make-up and he could pass for white. Sure there are probably other black people who look like him but I'm willing to bet people get their racial identity confused as well.

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He can put on the turbans and make-up on that he wants. He is still going to be a brother and what is so wrong with it I don't know.

Black people should just be fine with being black.
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Reply #252 posted 07/15/08 7:01am

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laurarichardson said:

Arnotts said:


But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.

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No, you do not have to know P’s parentage to know that he is African-American. Anyone that has been around African-Americans in America would no that he is black and Mike’s kids are not going to be P’s complexion because I do not think Mike is the biological father of those children.


you don't know their complexion cause you've never seen them in person- those photos are not proof- when I first saw P in person he was alot lighter than I thought just from seeing him in photos.
[Edited 7/15/08 7:01am]
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #253 posted 07/15/08 8:43am

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laurarichardson said:

Annika said:



You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.

Prince does look black to me, but I'm also influenced by what I know (i.e. that he has black parentage). If I saw him walking down the street, I would think that he could very well have African ancestry, but he could equally well be of North African, Near Eastern or Middle Eastern origin, or something completely different. Or a combination of all of the above.

The world is not black and white.

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“You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.”



I understand that not living in America there are a lot of things you do not know. You can live in Europe or some other part of the world and call people whatever you like.
In America if you look black you are black.
You are free to call yourself whatever you want but, trust me you are going to perceived by everyone as being black and you are going to be treated in a certain way. So in the end it would do no good for a black person to delude themselves that they are not black because they are a little light. In addition, one should take pride in their race and not fell ashamed.

I wish the world of the US was not black and white but for now it still is.


You didn't read my post at all, did you? Why am I not surprised?

Ah well, no concern of mine, really.
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Reply #254 posted 07/15/08 8:48am

Timmy84



"This thread doesn't care about light-skinned black people."

And on that note:



TOP OF THE MAWNIN' 2 YA!
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Reply #255 posted 07/15/08 8:51am

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Timmy, if you're not extremely careful, I'm going to keep posting stupid shit in this thread solely to keep you posting fail pictures. Do you have what it takes? lol
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Reply #256 posted 07/15/08 8:51am

Timmy84

Oh and El DeBarge is pissed off at y'all:



"So you gonna say my kids are white? HUH? FUCK YOU!"

lol

We're a multi-racial species, man. We come in all shades and colors. rainbow

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Reply #257 posted 07/15/08 8:52am

Timmy84

Annika said:

Timmy, if you're not extremely careful, I'm going to keep posting stupid shit in this thread solely to keep you posting fail pictures. Do you have what it takes? lol


Bring it! I'm just getting started. lol
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Reply #258 posted 07/15/08 9:38am

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Annika said:

laurarichardson said:


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“You will notice, though, that quite a lot of us are not Americans, and so have a whole spectrum of races to choose from, besides black and white.”



I understand that not living in America there are a lot of things you do not know. You can live in Europe or some other part of the world and call people whatever you like.
In America if you look black you are black.
You are free to call yourself whatever you want but, trust me you are going to perceived by everyone as being black and you are going to be treated in a certain way. So in the end it would do no good for a black person to delude themselves that they are not black because they are a little light. In addition, one should take pride in their race and not fell ashamed.

I wish the world of the US was not black and white but for now it still is.


You didn't read my post at all, did you? Why am I not surprised?

Ah well, no concern of mine, really.

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No, I read your post. Your trying to say he could be mixed with many things and he probaly is but in America people look at him and see a black man and nothing is going to change that.

You perceive things the way you do because you do not live in America. Trust me P is black and he was always be looked as being black.

The really weird thing is he is really not that light.
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Reply #259 posted 07/15/08 9:39am

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Evvy said:

laurarichardson said:


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No, you do not have to know P’s parentage to know that he is African-American. Anyone that has been around African-Americans in America would no that he is black and Mike’s kids are not going to be P’s complexion because I do not think Mike is the biological father of those children.


you don't know their complexion cause you've never seen them in person- those photos are not proof- when I first saw P in person he was alot lighter than I thought just from seeing him in photos.
[Edited 7/15/08 7:01am]

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Photos or in person Ray Charles would know those children are not black.
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Reply #260 posted 07/15/08 11:11am

Janfriend

Arnotts said:

Janfriend said:



I don't know what else that can be but a black man

He definetly could be anything other than black. He looks like he could be a mestizo like Carlos Leon or middle eastern. I've even seen half asian half white people who look like that. The only thing he doesn't look is black or white.

Carlos Leon has Afro-Cuban ancestry
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Reply #261 posted 07/15/08 11:16am

Janfriend

Arnotts said:

laurarichardson said:


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I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans.

Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street.


In American if you look black you are black.

But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.

When the hell was Michael light? lol Before the vitiligo, he was a dark man
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Reply #262 posted 07/15/08 11:40am

Timmy84

Janfriend said:

Arnotts said:


But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though.

When the hell was Michael light? lol Before the vitiligo, he was a dark man




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Reply #263 posted 07/15/08 12:22pm

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Evvy said:



this looks "black to you"?

Yes. and i never thought prince was white or spanish. I always knew he was black. ONLY A BLACK MAN could make that kind of music lol lol lol

anyways, he has a curl/perm in his hair and make up. Didn't he used to sport and afro and frizzy hair. I saw a guy at my school who looked like prince with dreads lol I nicknamed him "musicology" lol lol
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Reply #264 posted 07/15/08 12:25pm

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Janfriend said:

Evvy said:



mad umm i've only been black my whole life- read my post again


Well, then you believe the stereotype or you must not have see Nicole before she was on the simple life when she was darker and unmistakably black






THOSE ARE NOT HER BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. they are her adoptive parents. Nicole is biracial. and is said to be sheila e's cousin.
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Reply #265 posted 07/15/08 12:27pm

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There are millions of people out there that think Mariah Carey is white. I've had arguments twice in the office in the last couple of years, explaining she's mixed. But people see what they see i guess.

Must say i don't see much MJ in those kids tho. Don't see what difference it makes personally. As long as he's a good dad to them, who gives a crap.

mariah carey is biracial and would look more black if she did not bleach her hair blond, act like a bimbo. When she had her curls and darker hair you could see she was of mixed race. lol lol If you look at her cheek bones you can just see that she is mixed.
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Reply #266 posted 07/15/08 1:49pm

CJanssen




drool thank god one good thing in this thread. lol




Black/white, he's turning into a lady



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Reply #267 posted 07/15/08 2:01pm

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CJanssen said:[quote
Black/white, he's turning into a lady

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mad that was uncalled for and i'm offended- nobody calls those white long haired pretty rockers women

whatever cjanssen- you've gone too far
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #268 posted 07/15/08 2:08pm

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Evvy said:

CJanssen said:[quote
Black/white, he's turning into a lady

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mad that was uncalled for and i'm offended- nobody calls those white long haired pretty rockers women

whatever cjanssen- you've gone too far


evillol what on earth do you mean, I really hope you're joking
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Reply #269 posted 07/15/08 4:36pm

Janfriend

TotalAlisa said:

Janfriend said:



Well, then you believe the stereotype or you must not have see Nicole before she was on the simple life when she was darker and unmistakably black






THOSE ARE NOT HER BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. they are her adoptive parents. Nicole is biracial. and is said to be sheila e's cousin.

I didn't say those were her biological parents. She's Sheila's niece, not cousin
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