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Not sure what the eye rolling is about everything LaCienega said is true.
I am not sure who is more delusional MJ or MJ fans who think those are his kids.

banks said:

"Who's your daddy?!"

Though he was caught wearing a surgical mask, pajamas and a marine hat, according to a source close to Jackson, the star just likes dressing up in disguises.

There is, in fact, nothing wrong with him. Access’ source also says Jackson sometimes chooses to disguise himself as a burn victim.

Timmy84 said:

In other words:

dag said:

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Not sure what the eye rolling is about everything LaCienega said is true.
I am not sure who is more delusional MJ or MJ fans who think those are his kids.

Oh, I forgot, he dates only white women while the fact that he is crazy about Diana Ross is a common knowledge.

I didn't know appearing on the cover of Ebony magazine was a litmus test for being black. But since you want to play that, you also need to consider that Ebony is a national mass communications periodical (it's good P.R. for most people to be on the cover of a national magazine).

dag said:

1.) Michael Jackson's marriages to two women both have been to white women.

2.) Diana Ross married music business manager Robert Ellis Silberstein in August 1971. After her divorce to Silberstein in 1977, she publicly dated actor Ryan O'Neal and rocker Gene Simmons of the group KISS, before marrying Norwegian tycoon Arne Næss Jr. in October 1985. So the majority of her relationships have been with white men.

3.) It's hard to look at a man who has transformed his appearance (not just skin, but other physical features such as his nose and straightening his hair) to resemble a Caucasian's and has claimed to be the biological father of evidently Caucasian children as anything but self-hatred.
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That´s a very weak point because he could have chosen any other national mass periodical. There are tons to choose from, so why the "black" one?

He and Diana have flirted while Mike was black or white.

So Prince and James Brown also have straight hair to resemble a Caucasian´s?

LittleAmy you are wasting your time...there's no way to get through to some people.

The problem is the children have absolutely no resemblance to Michael Jackson and have absolutely no complexion in their skin to suggest they have African-descent melanin. It's hard to believe MJ produced THREE children like that; skin color is a recessive trait and you would think at least one or two of his children would reflect some of his physical traits.
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dag said:

So now Ebony magazine is the "black publication?" We're not even going to mention the journalistic quality of Ebony (the majority of its "stories" are P.R. releases), but surely you're not so out of touch with reality to see that:

1.) Ebony doesn't have that much clout with the black American community.

2.) MJ is P.R. poison and it's been years since he's had any new product out, so of course any publicity (and in his case, any perceived positive publicity) is better than what he's gotten since the early '90s: the common perception he is some unhealthy, frail-looking sexual deviant who has issues with his appearance. He will speak to Ebony NOW (as opposed to the previous 20-plus years, when he practically ignored it when he was popular) because he's poison to other media.



So let me understand: You're arguing that MJ doesn't have issues with race but yet you're calling him "black or white" in reference? The Diana Ross references mean nothing, BTW, because he wasn't married to her. That's a case of muddying the waters.

dag said:

Again, trying to look at separate things and not trying to look at the whole picture. James Brown never tried to proclaim he fathered white children and got a nose job to resemble a Caucasian's. Neither has Prince.
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CandaceS said:

I agree. Some of these zealots don't realize how little sense they make.

if it is true that michael used some white guy's sperm for artificial insemination, then it is truly sad.

truly sad that a black man cannot cope with having a child in his own image.
maybe he really hates himself that much.

very sad if they aren't his own biological kids.

dag said:

So now Ebony magazine is the "black publication?" We're not even going to mention the journalistic quality of Ebony (the majority of its "stories" are P.R. releases), but surely you're not so out of touch with reality to see that:

1.) Ebony doesn't have that much clout with the black American community.

2.) MJ is P.R. poison and it's been years since he's had any new product out, so of course any publicity (and in his case, any perceived positive publicity) is better than what he's gotten since the early '90s: the common perception he is some unhealthy, frail-looking sexual deviant who has issues with his appearance. He will speak to Ebony NOW (as opposed to the previous 20-plus years, when he practically ignored it when he was popular) because he's poison to other media.

laurarichardson said:

And can you explain to me the logic of the basis of the argument that MJ is so ashamed of being black? If the vitiligo has affected more than 50% of his body, was he supposed to paint himself all back black to make you happy? Oh, I forgot, he bleached his skin. Than why, after all that bleaching, did he do this for example?

Remember the Time


Why did he let Chris Tucker refer to him as a black man when he said "that he doesn´t like going out with black people?"
Rock My World


Oh, I forgot, he dates only white women while the fact that he is crazy about Diana Ross is a common knowledge.

I can see that MJ is doing truly everything to make everyone forget about his black roots.
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I didn't know appearing on the cover of Ebony magazine was a litmus test for being black. But since you want to play that, you also need to consider that Ebony is a national mass communications periodical (it's good P.R. for most people to be on the cover of a national magazine).

dag said:

1.) Michael Jackson's marriages to two women both have been to white women.

2.) Diana Ross married music business manager Robert Ellis Silberstein in August 1971. After her divorce to Silberstein in 1977, she publicly dated actor Ryan O'Neal and rocker Gene Simmons of the group KISS, before marrying Norwegian tycoon Arne Næss Jr. in October 1985. So the majority of her relationships have been with white men.

3.) It's hard to look at a man who has transformed his appearance (not just skin, but other physical features such as his nose and straightening his hair) to resemble a Caucasian's and has claimed to be the biological father of evidently Caucasian children as anything but self-hatred.
[Edited 7/12/08 1:11am]

I do not believe Mike has any sort of skin condition. I know people with vitiligo most people just let it take its course they do not run out and try to use make-up to match their new skin tone.

Until Mike has a medical doctor stand up and show his medical file I will not believe he has any sort of skin condition.

Mike is on Ebony to sell records
Mike went back to working with black entertainers to sell records.

When the chips are down black people like Mike always run home.

Yes, he is walking around with 3 kids who look nothing like him. He found a white woman who would give him her kids.

ok, the only way we will really know if these are MJ's children is when they are about 16.

if we are able to see each of their faces in close up and with a good view,
we should be able to determine whether they have any of Michael Jackson's features or not.

Its not entirely impossible that they are his biological children, no one knows for sure, we just have to wait and see.

although a few of the jackson children who are mixed race such as one of Jermaine's kids, they are very light too.

it remains to be seen whether they are his kids or not. But we will find out eventually, it is only a matter of time.

Although something which troubles me very much is that 2 of Tito's kids (taj and the other one) look more like Michael than Michael's kids.

Especially Taj Jackson, he looks like the spitting image of Michael, same eyebrows and face structure.

its truly mind boggling!

Michael Jackson sons
by Nona-Michael Jackson June 13, 2008

This is to formally inform all Media transactions, friends, business friends, loyal fans and well wishers of Superstar Michael Jackson that Michael Jackson and his wife (Nona Paris Lola Jackson) have ex-communicated from the so-called 'Jackson' family, at least, a family that the Press once presumed was his, a family that the Press once assumed as having 'helped' him start his singing career.

This is a very sad moment for all of us but we have had to take this formal and drastic step because we suddenly saw Michael & Nona's eldest son TAJ Jackson (June 7, 2008) walking about in Devon in England whereby his father and Nona were not properly informed of his presence in England.

Taj Jackson's (and his siblings) place is in Los Angeles & Neverland Ranch and when they want him (them) in England, they (they) will come with their parents or/and with their permission and blessing.

We are particularly concerned about Taj & Taryll because they are expected to begin preparations to marry their Saudi royal brides respectively.

These people he, TAJ (and his siblings) have gone to live with, are no longer Michael Jackson's family and they (Nona and Michael Jackson's children and loyal staff) will not be held responsible for any fraud that may be committed by these ex-communicated family as a result of other people such as Matt, Channel 4, media transactions, Michael Jackson's fans and websites, doing business with them.

These people live a life that the couple find indecent to them but which is not necessarily a sin to others. "I cannot have my sons polluted in such a filthy and unhealthy environment". says Nona Jackson.

Because Katherine Esther, Alejandra and the rest of these so-called 'Jackson' family have been ex-communicated from the couple, they certainly cannot understand why Katherine and her friends are still hanging around Michael & Nona Jackson home at Encino.

It is clear that Michael & Nona have to make payments to keep their Hayvenhurst Avenue home and other homes and therefore, it will bring these so-called 'Jackson's' no pleasure if they refuse to vacate their premises.

"I will have to use the hands of steel where necessary and demand for a warrant for them to vacate my beautiful premises immediately, if they are refusing to get the hell out of my beautiful home". Nona responds clearly.

"My home is for my own family parties, weddings etc. not for lunatics". the US Attorney trained by Judge Robert Schnider adds.

** TAJ Jackson is Michael Jackson's biological son. (Filed Los Angeles Superior Court April 1, 2008)
The 3T singers, TAJ, Taryll and TJ are amongst our 24 biological kids born for the Legend and Superstar Michael Jackson and they include Autumn Joi Jackson, Brandi Jackson, Jeremy Jackson, Dawn Jackson, Jourdyn Jackson, Jaimy Jackson, Steveanna Jackson, Paris Katherine Jackson, Prince Michael I Jackson (Blanket), Prince Michael II Jackson.



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