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dirtyman2005 said: ok, the only way we will really know if these are MJ's children is when they are about 16.
if we are able to see each of their faces in close up and with a good view, we should be able to determine whether they have any of Michael Jackson's features or not. Its not entirely impossible that they are his biological children, no one knows for sure, we just have to wait and see. although a few of the jackson children who are mixed race such as one of Jermaine's kids, they are very light too. it remains to be seen whether they are his kids or not. But we will find out eventually, it is only a matter of time. Although something which troubles me very much is that 2 of Tito's kids (taj and the other one) look more like Michael than Michael's kids. Especially Taj Jackson, he looks like the spitting image of Michael, same eyebrows and face structure. its truly mind boggling! Theres no need to wait for them to age. People with common sense can see that those kids are 100% white. Debbie Rowe even admitted to being artificially inseminated at a sperm bank. [Edited 7/15/08 19:47pm] | |
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LaCienega said: dirtyman2005 said: ok, the only way we will really know if these are MJ's children is when they are about 16.
if we are able to see each of their faces in close up and with a good view, we should be able to determine whether they have any of Michael Jackson's features or not. Its not entirely impossible that they are his biological children, no one knows for sure, we just have to wait and see. although a few of the jackson children who are mixed race such as one of Jermaine's kids, they are very light too. it remains to be seen whether they are his kids or not. But we will find out eventually, it is only a matter of time. Although something which troubles me very much is that 2 of Tito's kids (taj and the other one) look more like Michael than Michael's kids. Especially Taj Jackson, he looks like the spitting image of Michael, same eyebrows and face structure. its truly mind boggling! Theres no need to wait for them to age. People with common sense can see that those kids are 100% white. Debbie Rowe even admitted to being artificially inseminated at a sperm bank. [Edited 7/15/08 19:47pm] i'd like to hear more of what debbie has to say- i wanna talk with that woman LOVE HARD. | |
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CandaceS said: banks said: "Who's your daddy?!" Not Mike And I don't believe the man has ever had sex in his life. | |
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LaCienega said: dirtyman2005 said: ok, the only way we will really know if these are MJ's children is when they are about 16.
if we are able to see each of their faces in close up and with a good view, we should be able to determine whether they have any of Michael Jackson's features or not. Its not entirely impossible that they are his biological children, no one knows for sure, we just have to wait and see. although a few of the jackson children who are mixed race such as one of Jermaine's kids, they are very light too. it remains to be seen whether they are his kids or not. But we will find out eventually, it is only a matter of time. Although something which troubles me very much is that 2 of Tito's kids (taj and the other one) look more like Michael than Michael's kids. Especially Taj Jackson, he looks like the spitting image of Michael, same eyebrows and face structure. its truly mind boggling! Theres no need to wait for them to age. People with common sense can see that those kids are 100% white. Debbie Rowe even admitted to being artificially inseminated at a sperm bank. [Edited 7/15/08 19:47pm] EXACTLY. those kids are not black. but they are his kids, just not biological | |
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Debbie Rowe even admitted to being artificially inseminated at a sperm bank.
[Edited 7/15/08 19:47pm] You are such a liar! Debbie Rowe has NEVER said that! If you can't back up your arguement with FACTS, stop trying to fabricate it! | |
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laurarichardson said: Arnotts said: He definetly could be anything other than black. He looks like he could be a mestizo like Carlos Leon or middle eastern. I've even seen half asian half white people who look like that. The only thing he doesn't look is black or white. ----- I am begining to think that some of you think all black people must be blue/black to be African-Americans. Well that is not the case. Prince is black if he was running down the street in certain neighborhoods somebody would call the cops. He knows he is black if a cab passes him by on a busy street. In American if you look black you are black. i think people forgot when prince came out he had a big ass afro and looked like a member of the sylvers family, there is no way prince can pass for white, even with his processed hair and pancake makeup | |
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nicole ritchie, mariah carey are both bi-racial, but neither of them have a african american parent, their parents are some combo of afro/latin. the jacksons are black people,there is no way michael jackson is gonna produce not 1,not 2 but 3 lily white kids. every last jackson kids, even the bi-racial ones look like jacksons...of course except mike's kids because thats how he wanted it.quincy jones girls are very light but they clearly have recognizable black features. i have seen a few instances where a black/white couple produced a white child but like i said its not gonna happen 3 times. and michael need his ass whupped for saying blanket's mother is a black woman | |
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ReggaeQueen said: Debbie Rowe even admitted to being artificially inseminated at a sperm bank.
[Edited 7/15/08 19:47pm] You are such a liar! Debbie Rowe has NEVER said that! If you can't back up your arguement with FACTS, stop trying to fabricate it! She said it wasn't his sperm when she was trying to get custody | |
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laurarichardson said: Evvy said: this looks "black to you"? Yes, those lips are a dead giveaway. Forget the lips. Look at that nose and the rest of his face | |
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lowkey said: nicole ritchie, mariah carey are both bi-racial, but neither of them have a african american parent, their parents are some combo of afro/latin. the jacksons are black people,there is no way michael jackson is gonna produce not 1,not 2 but 3 lily white kids. every last jackson kids, even the bi-racial ones look like jacksons...of course except mike's kids because thats how he wanted it.quincy jones girls are very light but they clearly have recognizable black features. i have seen a few instances where a black/white couple produced a white child but like i said its not gonna happen 3 times. and michael need his ass whupped for saying blanket's mother is a black woman
He was so serious about it too! "She BLACK! Yes, she's BLACK!" | |
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lowkey said: nicole ritchie, mariah carey are both bi-racial, but neither of them have a african american parent, their parents are some combo of afro/latin. the jacksons are black people,there is no way michael jackson is gonna produce not 1,not 2 but 3 lily white kids. every last jackson kids, even the bi-racial ones look like jacksons...of course except mike's kids because thats how he wanted it.quincy jones girls are very light but they clearly have recognizable black features. i have seen a few instances where a black/white couple produced a white child but like i said its not gonna happen 3 times. and michael need his ass whupped for saying blanket's mother is a black woman
Try telling that to the Michael Jackson Mafia. These lunatics probably think Elvis and Tupac are still alive. | |
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Janfriend said: Arnotts said: But the point is he doesn't look black so he wouldn't be considered black by most. He's like Mariah Carey. Only the people who know he has black parentage think he's black. And it's not about being blue black. Michael was pretty light but he still looked like a black man. I would expect Michaels kids with a white woman to come out looking like Prince actually, probably a bit darker though. When the hell was Michael light? Before the vitiligo, he was a dark man Even when Michael Jackson was young he wasn't the darkest person around. I don't consider this to be particularly dark. Not extremely light either though. I guess it has more to do with the American mindset versus the world wide mindset. In America anyone with the tiniest percentage of black blood is considered black. For the rest of the world that's not the case. Most black people I see are fully black so Michael doesnt look dark in comparison and Prince looks just about white. Mixed race kids here come out Michaels colour and even darker. Here if I saw Prince in the street no thought in my mind would point to him being black. | |
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Arnotts said: Janfriend said: When the hell was Michael light? Before the vitiligo, he was a dark man Even when Michael Jackson was young he wasn't the darkest person around. I don't consider this to be particularly dark. Not extremely light either though. I guess it has more to do with the American mindset versus the world wide mindset. In America anyone with the tiniest percentage of black blood is considered black. For the rest of the world that's not the case. Most black people I see are fully black so Michael doesnt look dark in comparison and Prince looks just about white. Mixed race kids here come out Michaels colour and even darker. Here if I saw Prince in the street no thought in my mind would point to him being black. That pic of Michael is a pic of a dark man. Brown is dark. What you're classifying as dark is blue and you're stereotyping | |
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Janfriend said: Arnotts said: Even when Michael Jackson was young he wasn't the darkest person around. I don't consider this to be particularly dark. Not extremely light either though. I guess it has more to do with the American mindset versus the world wide mindset. In America anyone with the tiniest percentage of black blood is considered black. For the rest of the world that's not the case. Most black people I see are fully black so Michael doesnt look dark in comparison and Prince looks just about white. Mixed race kids here come out Michaels colour and even darker. Here if I saw Prince in the street no thought in my mind would point to him being black. That pic of Michael is a pic of a dark man. Brown is dark. What you're classifying as dark is blue and you're stereotyping How the hell is that stereotyping? Dark is not necessarily blue to me. Wesley Snipes is dark also. He's not blue black, if you think he is you obviously havent seen blue black people. Michael has mixed race ancestry as do most "black" Americans so he's bound to be lighter then most black people on a global scale. You can see it in pictures when the J5 went to Africa the comparison. And because I'm judging him compared to fully black people and not mixed race black people, he IS light. | |
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Janfriend said: Arnotts said: Even when Michael Jackson was young he wasn't the darkest person around. I don't consider this to be particularly dark. Not extremely light either though. I guess it has more to do with the American mindset versus the world wide mindset. In America anyone with the tiniest percentage of black blood is considered black. For the rest of the world that's not the case. Most black people I see are fully black so Michael doesnt look dark in comparison and Prince looks just about white. Mixed race kids here come out Michaels colour and even darker. Here if I saw Prince in the street no thought in my mind would point to him being black. That pic of Michael is a pic of a dark man. Brown is dark. What you're classifying as dark is blue and you're stereotyping Okay, how is that stereotyping? The vast majority of African Americans have mixed ancestry, the Jacksons certainly included. They are by no means "pure" black, as Jermaine claimed, they just don't have visible white blood in the last few generations of their family tree. Their family would have been as much subjected to rape by white landowners, etc, as any other black family, in the days of slavery (and probably after). Edit: Actually, thinking about it, saying that every person in the world with even a drop of black blood in them is black in exactly the same way as every other person with black blood looks a whole lot more like a stereotype than saying that isn't the case, wouldn't you say? [Edited 7/16/08 1:34am] | |
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Annika said: Janfriend said: That pic of Michael is a pic of a dark man. Brown is dark. What you're classifying as dark is blue and you're stereotyping Okay, how is that stereotyping? The vast majority of African Americans have mixed ancestry, the Jacksons certainly included. They are by no means "pure" black, as Jermaine claimed, they just don't have visible white blood in the last few generations of their family tree. Their family would have been as much subjected to rape by white landowners, etc, as any other black family, in the days of slavery (and probably after). Joseph Jackson has blue eyes and light skin. It must be a a little bit recent | |
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michael as a baby
mj jr. - looks darker than his father here so does ms. paris and blanket LOVE HARD. | |
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Annika said: Comparing Prince 1 to pictures of Michael as a boy does not prove anything. He does not have to look like little MJ in order to be his biological child, but can easily resemble adult MJ, which in my eyes, he does. Prince 1 looks like Bad era Michael, which is strange, but amazing. Something in his eyes/face/expression in photos looks just like MJ in 1987/1988 to me. I say he is genetically connected to Michael...somehow, LOL. But Paris? I will continue to confidently assume that she is NOT his child. Not sure about Blanket. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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So many treatments over the years, his sperm itself became a bleaching agent. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. | |
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Arnotts said: Annika said: Okay, how is that stereotyping? The vast majority of African Americans have mixed ancestry, the Jacksons certainly included. They are by no means "pure" black, as Jermaine claimed, they just don't have visible white blood in the last few generations of their family tree. Their family would have been as much subjected to rape by white landowners, etc, as any other black family, in the days of slavery (and probably after). Joseph Jackson has blue eyes and light skin. It must be a a little bit recent Joseph's Grandmother was a slave and she was raped by her Slaveholder (or whatever you call these people)! That's what he says in his book! | |
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WaterInYourBath said: Annika said: Comparing Prince 1 to pictures of Michael as a boy does not prove anything. He does not have to look like little MJ in order to be his biological child, but can easily resemble adult MJ, which in my eyes, he does. Prince 1 looks like Bad era Michael, which is strange, but amazing. Something in his eyes/face/expression in photos looks just like MJ in 1987/1988 to me. I say he is genetically connected to Michael...somehow, LOL. But Paris? I will continue to confidently assume that she is NOT his child. Not sure about Blanket. I can see a resemblance between Prince and bad era Michael too but I'm pretty sure that is a coincidence. There are other examples of adopted kids looking like their adoptive parents such as Hugh Jackman and his son. His son is just a darker version, but he's definetly not biologically his, it's pure coincidence. I say the same for Michael. And plus he doesn't look THAT much like Michael only slightly, it's the eyes and face shape I think. | |
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alphastreet said: midnightmover said: It's that gradual process of lightening that makes me doubt the vitiligo story. We've read countless articles and interviews about vitiligo, but still never seen a single case of someone going from black to caramel to beige and then to white like Michael did. Mike seems to be the only example in human history. Sorry, but that is suspicious to me, particularly after we know Michael lied about not bleaching his skin. There's still not one scrap of evidence to back up this story. The fans speak of patches on his skin in old photographs, but those pictures often show nothing more than light reflecting off his skin. I asked one of them earlier why no one noticed these "patches" at the time and he dodged the question. They always get very evasive when you try to pin them down on these common sense points. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but until I see some tangible proof, I have to be sceptical. I would constantly ask that question too even when I learned about vitiligo, and though fans said he wore cake body makeup all over during the Bad era, a kind that lasts for a few days before fading away, it made me wonder why no one else did it. But then again, he is a celeb and could afford to cover up everything. But his chest wasn't patchy during the Bad tour either! Yes, which is quite an achievement when you consider that it was dripping with sweat. To even debate this story is ridiculous. Three of the fans in this thread have already forgotten what the story was and more or less ADMITTED that he was bleaching. Hopefully, some of their fellow MJ fans have orgnoted them to let them know that COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS Michael's entire explanation. It's fascinating to see how this story shifts and changes everytime they're asked about it. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Evvy said: mj jr. - looks darker than his father here Well yeah. Everyone's darker than Casper. | |
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DiamondGlove said: Evvy said: mj jr. - looks darker than his father here Well yeah. Everyone's darker than Casper. you stupid- I'd hate to hear what you'd say about a balding cancer patient maybe you'd use your sarcasism to let them know they deserve to loose all of their hair LOVE HARD. | |
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Janfriend said: laurarichardson said: Yes, those lips are a dead giveaway. Forget the lips. Look at that nose and the rest of his face Regarding Prince: I notice no one threw up one the many pics of Prince R Nelson with the big assed afro. The concept of a press and curl or a perm and blow dry is seriously lost on a lot of people. With Regard to Mike: the only one of those kids that even looks like Debbie Rowe's is the girl. The older boy doesn't like Debbie. And none of them look like they could be Mike's kids. [Edited 7/16/08 10:34am] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Janfriend said: Forget the lips. Look at that nose and the rest of his face Regarding Prince: I notice no one threw up one the many pics of Prince R Nelson with the big assed afro. The concept of a press and curl or a perm and blow dry is seriously lost on a lot of people. [Edited 7/16/08 10:34am] I agree with your statement but mike would look ethnic with a afro and his normal unarched eyebrow too LOVE HARD. | |
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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blankie is a cutie pie LOVE HARD. | |
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