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Thread started 07/08/08 9:00am

motownlover

who do you think was better 2 pac or biggie

who do you think who was the best rapper overall>?
2pac who was more of a poet and biggie who was a great freestyler , he didnt wrote songs but he rapped on the song when played.
discuss please
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Reply #1 posted 07/08/08 9:04am

Giovanni777

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They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

How about... Rakim or Big Daddy Kane?

Overweight rappers: Chubb Rock or Heavy D?
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Reply #2 posted 07/08/08 9:10am

Graycap23

Both average as hell.....Let's talk KRS-One.
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Reply #3 posted 07/08/08 9:20am

phunkdaddy

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I would say 2pac was a little better as a lyricist but i echo the
sentiment of everyone who has posted so far that they were overrated
especiallay as far as being mentioned the best of all time.
Just to mention a few who are better q-tip, black thought, common,
krs-one, rakim, grand puba.
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Reply #4 posted 07/08/08 9:22am

uPtoWnNY

I'm waiting on Vainandy to his unique perspective.... smile
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Reply #5 posted 07/08/08 9:25am

vainandy

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uPtoWnNY said:

I'm waiting on Vainandy to his unique perspective.... smile


I'm right here. I don't know which one was better....at making me vomit. Hmmm, it's a tie. lol
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Reply #6 posted 07/08/08 9:27am

Graycap23

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I'm right here. I don't know which one was better....at making me vomit. Hmmm, it's a tie. lol

lol.....tie 4 last.
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Reply #7 posted 07/08/08 9:40am

TonyVanDam

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motownlover said:

who do you think who was the best rapper overall>?
2pac who was more of a poet and biggie who was a great freestyler , he didnt wrote songs but he rapped on the song when played.
discuss please


Biggie has a better rhyme flow.

But 2pac was a far better songwriter! cool Apart from Prince, I don't know any artist from any genre that wrote songs & poems as often as 'Pac did.
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Reply #8 posted 07/08/08 9:43am

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Giovanni777 said:

They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

How about... Rakim or Big Daddy Kane?


Overweight rappers: Chubb Rock or Heavy D?


Cinnie & I both agree the Rakim is the real G.O.A.T.

But in a battle rap, Rakim VS KRS-One might take at least a 100 rounds to decide a clear winner.
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Reply #9 posted 07/08/08 9:44am

motownlover

i in particular am not a fan of rap music , but i do find that these cats did had game, although people like rakim and big daddy kane where great as well.probally better . but i dont find them over rated as rappers because compared to todays rappers they certainly are better
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Reply #10 posted 07/08/08 9:44am

Graycap23

TonyVanDam said:

motownlover said:

who do you think who was the best rapper overall>?
2pac who was more of a poet and biggie who was a great freestyler , he didnt wrote songs but he rapped on the song when played.
discuss please


Biggie has a better rhyme flow.

But 2pac was a far better songwriter! cool Apart from Prince, I don't know any artist from any genre that wrote songs & poems as often as 'Pac did.

Pac track:
187 MF...thuglife....N****....

track 2: N****.....187 MF.....Thuglife.....Kill....Gangster

Track 3: mama

Track 4: 187 Mf.....gangster.....

U get the point.
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Reply #11 posted 07/08/08 9:47am

TonyVanDam

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vainandy said:



I'm right here. I don't know which one was better....at making me vomit. Hmmm, it's a tie. lol


At least 'Pac had 2 songs in his life time that were over the 95 BPM mark. Biggie had none at all in his life time.

So most likely, I think you will hate Biggie a lot worse.
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Reply #12 posted 07/08/08 9:49am

TonyVanDam

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Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Biggie has a better rhyme flow.

But 2pac was a far better songwriter! cool Apart from Prince, I don't know any artist from any genre that wrote songs & poems as often as 'Pac did.

Pac track:
187 MF...thuglife....N****....

track 2: N****.....187 MF.....Thuglife.....Kill....Gangster

Track 3: mama

Track 4: 187 Mf.....gangster.....

U get the point.


You don't know jack shit about 'Pac by the way you're taking a piss out of the man. Those look more like rap songs from Spice 1! lol
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Reply #13 posted 07/08/08 9:50am

CosmicDancer

ALL RAP/HIP HOP IS BULLSHIT !
But Biggie is waaaaay more interesting as a rapper than Tupac..
Or damn near any of them IMO !
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Reply #14 posted 07/08/08 9:55am

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TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:


Pac track:
187 MF...thuglife....N****....

track 2: N****.....187 MF.....Thuglife.....Kill....Gangster

Track 3: mama

Track 4: 187 Mf.....gangster.....

U get the point.


You don't know jack shit about 'Pac by the way you're taking a piss out of the man. Those look more like rap songs from Spice 1! lol

Tony, thank you because I was gonna say the same thing lol
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Reply #15 posted 07/08/08 10:04am

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TonyVanDam said:

Giovanni777 said:

They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

How about... Rakim or Big Daddy Kane?


Overweight rappers: Chubb Rock or Heavy D?


Cinnie & I both agree the Rakim is the real G.O.A.T.

But in a battle rap, Rakim VS KRS-One might take at least a 100 rounds to decide a clear winner.


U can add me 2 that... Rakim IS the greatest. As far as battles go, that's not fair, as Rakim wasn't about battles at all. Kane was though. KRS, most def.
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Reply #16 posted 07/08/08 10:08am

DiamondGlove

I honestly like 50 Cent more than both of them combined. So suck it!
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Reply #17 posted 07/08/08 10:11am

Empress

Giovanni777 said:[quote]They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

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Reply #18 posted 07/08/08 10:14am

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Empress said:[quote]

Giovanni777 said:

They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

falloff


It's true though, right?

If U put Biggie up against Grand Puba, Chubb Rock, Kane, Rakim, or nearly anyone from '87 to '92... well... U get the point, my dear.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #19 posted 07/08/08 10:15am

Empress

Giovanni777 said:[quote]

Empress said:

Giovanni777 said:

They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

falloff


It's true though, right?

If U put Biggie up against Grand Puba, Chubb Rock, Kane, Rakim, or nearly anyone from '87 to '92... well... U get the point, my dear.


Hey, I'm not a fan of either, so yes I do agree!
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Reply #20 posted 07/08/08 10:25am

funkycat00

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Pac was Prince fan. So i'd say Pac. biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 07/08/08 10:50am

Graycap23

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:


Pac track:
187 MF...thuglife....N****....

track 2: N****.....187 MF.....Thuglife.....Kill....Gangster

Track 3: mama

Track 4: 187 Mf.....gangster.....

U get the point.


You don't know jack shit about 'Pac by the way you're taking a piss out of the man. Those look more like rap songs from Spice 1! lol

Lol.....I have all of his work, that's 75% of his material.
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Reply #22 posted 07/08/08 10:55am

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I never really dug Biggie. He made it seem easy, yes, but he never really seemed to say much that meant anything.

Tupac had a way to go to reach his potential, but he was one of the most charismatic & powerful performers in hip hop. Even when he was saying something ignorant it felt important.
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Reply #23 posted 07/08/08 11:04am

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Well, to answer the question, Tupac was more poetic, Biggie, more versatile. I prefer Biggie, but that's a hard question to answer.

As to the larger question, Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. He revolutionized MCing. Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone would also be on hip-hop's Mount Rushmore.
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Reply #24 posted 07/08/08 11:06am

Graycap23

namepeace said:

Well, to answer the question, Tupac was more poetic, Biggie, more versatile. I prefer Biggie, but that's a hard question to answer.

As to the larger question, Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. He revolutionized MCing. Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone would also be on hip-hop's Mount Rushmore.

I need 2 relisten 2 this cat. I've always thought that Krs-1 was the best.
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Reply #25 posted 07/08/08 11:09am

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2Pac: Very from the core rap style. Sounded like he was rapping from the pit of his stomach. Talked about things and in a style that appealed to thug life. Great diction.

Biggie Smalls: Would use and abuse the rhythm and the flow. Lyrics were tight, but his patterns were off the hook.


Personally, I prefer KRS One and Chuck D as the better lyricists, Rakim as better overall rapper. But I'm a fan of the genre, and so many people have built they steelo on other peoples' flow that the inspirations start to mish and mash. Of course, I have a bit of a N.Y. bias since that's what I came up listening too.
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Reply #26 posted 07/08/08 11:17am

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motownlover said:

who do you think who was the best rapper overall>?
2pac who was more of a poet and biggie who was a great freestyler , he didnt wrote songs but he rapped on the song when played.
discuss please



While I love 2Pacs words, Biggies flow and delivery walked on 2Pac...plus..I love Brooklyn..im going with biggie...even for lil Kim being his underdog protege and Puffy being behind him only helped.
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Reply #27 posted 07/08/08 11:40am

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I liked them both, can't say which was better. It would depend on my mood (who I'd listen to @ a particular time)...
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Reply #28 posted 07/08/08 12:04pm

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Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Well, to answer the question, Tupac was more poetic, Biggie, more versatile. I prefer Biggie, but that's a hard question to answer.

As to the larger question, Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. He revolutionized MCing. Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone would also be on hip-hop's Mount Rushmore.

I need 2 relisten 2 this cat. I've always thought that Krs-1 was the best.


The problem with Rakim is that he wasn't as prolific as KRS-ONE.
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Reply #29 posted 07/08/08 12:13pm

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funkycat00 said:

Pac was Prince fan. So i'd say Pac. biggrin


It always trips me out when I hear the later artists say they either were influenced by or are a Prince fan. The first thing I think is, hell, Prince jams, why don't you? lol
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