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Printablenamepeace said:
the orger Miles is one of the most knowledgeable and hasn't weighed in yet.
NDRU said: Miles said: Yeah, Monk was a unique artist, but where he 'fits in' is pretty clear to me.  He came out of the stride tradition, also hung around with a lot of gospel, blues and immigrant Caribbean musicians in his youth, and was heavily influenced by Ellington.
Monk himself was an important influence on the origins and development of 'be bop' in his role at the Minton's Playhouse crowd as 'house pianist' there from IIRC 1940-42-ish; especially Charlie Parker (who styled some of his more rhythmically 'out there' phrasings after Monk, like when he plays 'beyond the bar' [musically speaking  ], and spoke of the debt he owed to Monk), Miles Davis (who I'd say got some of his phrasing and sense of 'space' in his playing from Monk among others) and Coltrane (who studied under Thelonius in a sabbatical from Miles' band in the late '50s).
So, strangely, Monk is at the same time a maverick outsider and yet at the heart of the jazz tradition 
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NDRU said: Actually I think Monk is one of the great composers of melody.
there was often something off, but in a good way. He could make something as simple as this sound weird. Maybe the unconventional nature of his approach to melody/harmony/rhythm. I can understand the "weird" description just watching how he's doing what he's doing. But that same song being played by someone else tends to sound quite "normal". It's the Monkisms.
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theAudience said: NDRU said: Actually I think Monk is one of the great composers of melody.
there was often something off, but in a good way. He could make something as simple as this sound weird. Maybe the unconventional nature of his approach to melody/harmony/rhythm. I can understand the "weird" description just watching how he's doing what he's doing. But that same song being played by someone else tends to sound quite "normal". It's the Monkisms.
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I should have included Monk in my list, definitely among the most idiosyncratic composers in jazz or any other genre. | |
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luv4u said: This guy is one to watch out for. Love his music http://www.dkibomeka.com/
Thanks for the link what a great voice. LET A WOMAN BE A WOMAN AND A MAN BE A MAN | |
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i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Frank Zappa. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: I should have included Monk in my list, definitely among the most idiosyncratic composers in jazz or any other genre.
I'm sure Sam Rivers would get a kick out of knowing he's in your list.
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My favorites:
Monk Tatum Webster Reinhardt Armstrong I also liked what Baker was doing towards the end of his life. | |
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Not saying he's the greatest, but Marcus Miller -- as a composer, arranger, multi-instrumentalist and producer -- gets my vote.
Granted, he's my bass guitar hero. But, it's deeper than that. His knowledge and feel for the straight-ahead stuff, his time with Miles, his work in the more contemporary stuff (r&b, pop, jazz, etc.) make listening to his albums a refreshing experience every time. | |
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Duke Ellington (I have over 1,000 songs from this genius.)
Miles Davis (Still in the early stages of absorption.) Louis Armstrong John Coltrane Charlie Parker Thelonious Monk Billie Holiday (The voice is an instrument.) Dizzy Gillespie Count Basie Ella Fitzgerald Sarah Vaughan Herbie Hancock Art Tatum Dinah Washington Charles Mingus And several other fusion players and a few others that I'm sure I've forgotten. *** Screw it. *** [Edited 7/8/08 19:30pm] | |
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well i wouldn't know which one is/was the greatest since i don't know
quite a lot of people being mentioned here but my own personal fav is and always will be mingus and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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