No, that wasn't cool but I can understand because I don't like dragons either. However, say something like that about normal gay men and I'm gonna have to slap you.

LittleAmy said:

I definitely can buy that about pebbles. She really wasn't that good of a singer. IMO she was a product of the L.A-Babyface machine. Yes Jody and Karyn
had established themselves somewhat before they found their FFT partners.

phunkdaddy said:

lol.....

vainandy said:

I wouldn't dare say anything bad about u or any other gay person. I love u 2 much. Rudy was more than a gay man (at least that's what it sounded like). Why else would he try to be a TV? Hell, he had a body that any man (gay or straight) would die for.

BlaqueKnight said:

She did take pretty pictures.


I totally agree about the stage performance. I didn't post this as an insult to Beyonce or Pebbles. I posted it because Beyonce (early in her career) reminded me of Pebbles.
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phunkdaddy said:

Yeah, people tend to forget/overlook/not know that Pebbles was married to someone else (George Smith) when her first album came out. And considering that L.A. Reid already was writing songs about Pebbles (Bobby Brown's "Every Little Step") around that time, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see she was FFT while married to Smith.

LittleAmy said:

Could it be possible that "Girlfriend" was written about her situation?

I just googled "Rudy Huston" and I can't seem to find out too much info on him. Evidentaly, he did some gay porn and appeared in Playgirl a few times in the late 80s.

According to one website, Rudy met Janet when they did Fame together and remained friends. When she shot the video for What Have You Done For Me Lately, she called him up and asked if he wanted to dance in it.

Evidentally, he also appeared in a stage production of Dreamgirls.

daPrettyman said:

Yeah, I remember him discussing the Playgirl spread on Sally and how ironic it was considering that he was now a woman.

SCNDLS said:

I can't seem to find anything on him from the recent years. Do you recall if he ever changed his name to anything different?

daPrettyman said:

I vaguely remember seeing something that said he died but no details.

Speaking of Sally, did you see the episode where a drag queen had impersonated Shirley Murdock? She had gone all out on tour and even to a family reunion of Shirley's.

vainandy said:

I don't know why, but I do remember that episode. That was some crazy stuff.

I can barely remember it but didn't she sleep with Shirley's boyfriend or something? I don't know. But I do know that she slept with some man that didn't know she was a man. How the hell do you sleep with someone and not know they are a man. Hell, the dick is a dead giveaway.

Anyway, I do remember her saying she didn't get too close to people at Shirley's family reunion because she was afraid they would see that she wasn't really Shirley. I can't remember how she got caught. I think I remember hearing that she got caught running up hotel bills and charging things in Shirley's name.

vainandy said:

What the Fuck???? Now that broad was tuckin' like a mutha. I've never understood how pre-op prostitutes were able to pass for a woman during intercourse with a guy. I've seen them explain it but it still does not make sense to me.

vainandy said:

I think you are right. I can't remember if they slept with Shirley's boyfriend or some other man that was close to Shirley.

I'm like you...the dick was a dead giveaway, but maybe it was just something oral (who knows). You know, some guys don't care as long as they have all of the fun.

There's no way to hide being a man because when they tuck, they stretch their dick way down between their legs, pull it down underneath their body, and tie it down by their asshole. The man can't fuck them from the front because, a dick may not be showing, but there is no hole for him to put his dick in. That means going to the back and sticking it in their ass. Well, when he does that, a great big ole dick is gonna be showing because that's where it's strapped down.

And besides, what real woman is going to be saying immediately when they get in bed...."don't fuck me in the pussy, fuck me in the ass". Naw, these men that say they didn't know it was a man are some damn liars.

Yep. That's true. And some of them know it's a man and don't care as long as they get blown. Yet, they still want to call themselves straight. Hell no, it don't work that way. A person can't be gay all by themselves. It's takes two to tango.

Hey, maybe the man thought he was actually sleeping with Shirley Murdock and that Shirley was a drag queen herself. He may have thought that he found out a secret about Shirley that no one else knew. You'll be surprised what people will do to sleep with a celebrity.
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daPrettyman said:

Actually, "Girlfriend" was written for another woman who ironically has a similar physical profile -- Vanessa Williams. Pebbles had finished recording her debut album when she met L.A. Reid and Babyface, and "Girlfriend" was a last-minute addition. Pebbles ended up with the song when negotiations with Williams were dragging.

However, it's public knowledge that Reid fell in love with Pebbles when he first met her. She already was married to someone else when they met -- but that didn't stop Pebbles from setting up the next career move.
[Edited 7/8/08 16:34pm]

vainandy said:

daPrettyman said:

Ick!

vainandy said:

I don't wanna turn this into a P&R thread, but come on now...you should know better.

RipHer2Shreds said:

We are not going to make this a P&R thread. Andy and I are cool. I apologized in another post. I love everyone.