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Reply #30 posted 07/06/08 9:51am

Nick715

I hear you, but the "Kate heads" need to stop trying to tell us that her version is better. Taste is taste.

Maxwell's version is the 1st I ever heard. I also have Kate's on my ipod.

I think it's her voice that I cannot quite get into.
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Reply #31 posted 07/06/08 9:58am

Anxiety

Nick715 said:

I hear you, but the "Kate heads" need to stop trying to tell us that her version is better. Taste is taste.

Maxwell's version is the 1st I ever heard. I also have Kate's on my ipod.

I think it's her voice that I cannot quite get into.


if you want to believe maxwell's version is better, that's awesome. it's good that you enjoy it, because at least you're appreciating kate's songwriting.

i'm never going to appreciate maxwell's version as much because kate's version is more powerful to my ears. partially because of personal preference, partially because of the memories i link that recording to.

and that's just how that goes. shrug
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Reply #32 posted 07/06/08 10:02am

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Maxwell is a much MUCH better singer than Kate Bush which makes his version more paletteable, but Kate wrote it, so respect must go to the author of the work.


Dewrede said:



he makes it into some kinda R&B gospel song

blasphemy



I think you and I have two completely different interpretations of what gospel is. Since I was raised in southern baptist churches...I'm gonna go ahead and go with my definition. Ain't nothin' gospel about Maxwell's version.
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Reply #33 posted 07/06/08 10:23am

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Anxiety said:

kate's version is SO much more delicate and unaffected than maxwell's version, and like i said before, i get the idea that maxwell "gets it" when i hear his version...it's just that kate's version brings the lyrics home for me a lot more than maxwell's does. this is a very special song to me and it's even more special hearing it sung by kate bush. the true intent may be completely different than what i take away from it, but it seems like a song dedicated to the pain of being a mother, written by someone who has either gone through that pain or is dealing with the fear of having that pain in her life, and in writing "this woman's work" she's kinda trying to talk herself down from that fear, and in so doing, reassuring other women and paying tribute to women who have/haven't survived. i just have a hard time hearing a man trying to relate that, even though i think maxwell gives it a really good shot. i like both. nothing will ever top kate's version. sorry, maxwell-heads. shrug



and there you have it smile
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Reply #34 posted 07/06/08 10:31am

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As I have said before, Maxwell's interpretation is coming from a guy who finally gets the fact that he has a good woman. While, Kate's version seems to say, "Hey look how hard I work to keep this relationship going, would you please acknowledge it!!". While I like Kate's version, Maxwell's version hits the spot.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #35 posted 07/06/08 11:13am

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I'm willing to bet a lot of money most people's favorite version is whichever one they happened to hear first. I heard Kate's version first and it jumped out at me right away as one of her very best. When I heard Maxwell's version it just sounded like he made it generic. The original was so much more ethereal, and like others here, I think the song works better coming from a female. I still feel that way. Kate's version is the real thing. Maxwell sounds like he's trying too hard to feminize himself on this one. But if you're more used to soul/ r'n'b then I can understand why his version would be more palatable to you.

btw, here's the actual official version, which I think is better than the TV version posted earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #36 posted 07/06/08 11:46am

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novabrkr said:

CalhounSq said:

I just wanna clarify that his version on "Now" sucks monkey turds, but the live version on Unplugged is killer amazing!


They're not that different... you know.

They're worlds different to me, I can't even listen to the version on Now disbelief Something in his delivery & the arrangement... but the Unplugged version is FLAWLESS smile


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Reply #37 posted 07/06/08 11:50am

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Not really. I heard Kate's first and I still like Maxwell's version better because of his voice.
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Reply #38 posted 07/06/08 11:55am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Not really. I heard Kate's first and I still like Maxwell's version better because of his voice.

I know people are gonna think I'm awful but Kate's voice sounded like rats in a blender the one time I tried to listen to her version, I just couldn't take it disbelief
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Reply #39 posted 07/06/08 12:04pm

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CalhounSq said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Not really. I heard Kate's first and I still like Maxwell's version better because of his voice.

I know people are gonna think I'm awful but Kate's voice sounded like rats in a blender the one time I tried to listen to her version, I just couldn't take it disbelief



Rats in a blender? Sounds like a bum's juicer diet. lol Eeew, CS, you nasty!
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Reply #40 posted 07/06/08 12:06pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

CalhounSq said:


I know people are gonna think I'm awful but Kate's voice sounded like rats in a blender the one time I tried to listen to her version, I just couldn't take it disbelief



Rats in a blender? Sounds like a bum's juicer diet. lol Eeew, CS, you nasty!


Those bums have tight abs nod

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Reply #41 posted 07/06/08 1:45pm

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shorttrini said:

As I have said before, Maxwell's interpretation is coming from a guy who finally gets the fact that he has a good woman. While, Kate's version seems to say, "Hey look how hard I work to keep this relationship going, would you please acknowledge it!!". While I like Kate's version, Maxwell's version hits the spot.

It's about giving birth

However, Kate did write it for the film from a man's point of view, so a man singing it is possible, but Maxwell's doesn't come across as sincere

It's about a man reflecting on his sorry role as a husband as he awaits news on whether his wife made it through emergency surgery in order to give birth to his child
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Reply #42 posted 07/06/08 1:49pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

Maxwell is a much MUCH better singer than Kate Bush which makes his version more paletteable, but Kate wrote it, so respect must go to the author of the work.


Dewrede said:



he makes it into some kinda R&B gospel song

blasphemy



I think you and I have two completely different interpretations of what gospel is. Since I was raised in southern baptist churches...I'm gonna go ahead and go with my definition. Ain't nothin' gospel about Maxwell's version.



ok , i meant r&B
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Reply #43 posted 07/06/08 2:39pm

midnightmover

BlaqueKnight said:

Not really. I heard Kate's first and I still like Maxwell's version better because of his voice.

I'm pretty sure if we did a survey it would back up my claim.

I understand many people have problems accepting more idiosyncratic voices. Dylan, Prince, Kate, all alienate some people with their voices, but maybe that's a good thing.
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Reply #44 posted 07/06/08 2:53pm

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Janfriend said:

shorttrini said:

As I have said before, Maxwell's interpretation is coming from a guy who finally gets the fact that he has a good woman. While, Kate's version seems to say, "Hey look how hard I work to keep this relationship going, would you please acknowledge it!!". While I like Kate's version, Maxwell's version hits the spot.

It's about giving birth

However, Kate did write it for the film from a man's point of view, so a man singing it is possible, but Maxwell's doesn't come across as sincere

It's about a man reflecting on his sorry role as a husband as he awaits news on whether his wife made it through emergency surgery in order to give birth to his child
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I am well aware of what it is about. I just think that Maxwell took it a step further with his version. I also think that he knows that men cannot give birth so his version sort of pays homage to a women in that respect.
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Reply #45 posted 07/06/08 3:29pm

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shorttrini said:

Janfriend said:


It's about giving birth

However, Kate did write it for the film from a man's point of view, so a man singing it is possible, but Maxwell's doesn't come across as sincere

It's about a man reflecting on his sorry role as a husband as he awaits news on whether his wife made it through emergency surgery in order to give birth to his child
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I am well aware of what it is about. I just think that Maxwell took it a step further with his version. I also think that he knows that men cannot give birth so his version sort of pays homage to a women in that respect.


I totally agree with u. If Prince were to cover this song I would feel the same. What is so wrong about Max's version as he gives total respect to the woman.
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Reply #46 posted 07/06/08 8:27pm

Janfriend

shorttrini said:

Janfriend said:


It's about giving birth

However, Kate did write it for the film from a man's point of view, so a man singing it is possible, but Maxwell's doesn't come across as sincere

It's about a man reflecting on his sorry role as a husband as he awaits news on whether his wife made it through emergency surgery in order to give birth to his child
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I am well aware of what it is about. I just think that Maxwell took it a step further with his version. I also think that he knows that men cannot give birth so his version sort of pays homage to a women in that respect.


That's not what you said. You said it's about a guy knowing he has a good woman and Kate's version is about how hard she has to work to keep the relationship going. Almost dying from having a baby has nothing to do with working hard to keep a relationship going or having a good woman. If you were well aware what the song was about, you didn't express it at all
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