My favorite rap duo or group but I think they stopped rapping and sang.
I have three of their albums but I suspect I'm missing one.
The Bliss Album, Dearest Christian; . . . and Jesus Wept are the albums I own.

there's some stuff from the first album i like. isn't the black album sampled on that one?

You're talking to the biggest fan here!

They do have two more albums.. F*Cked Music and Unreleased Volume 1.. but it was pretty much for sale to the strong supporters of his fan base at a certain time back about 8 years ago.. and it's precious to those that have possession of it.

they will always be one of my favorite groups.. the lyrics are fantastic.

I say if Dearest Christian was released this year, instead of ten years ago.. it would be huge. It kindof got lost in between the static of genres..... it is beautiful beautiful record
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Jesus Wept is fantastic might I add.. here is a Rolling stone review..

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4 out of 5 stars

Jesus wept" is a multitracked feast of guitar rock, pillow-soft pop, moody psychedelia and sugary-sweet R&B with only one straight-up rap track on the entire collection. It shouldn't come as much of a surprise: On their third album, P.M. Dawn complete their transformation from a rap-based pop group to something altogether different and wonderful.

It's not that P.M. Dawn – led by Prince Be and his brother J.C. the Eternal – don't operate in the hip-hop arena. Indeed they do. But like the DJs working the fringes of dance music, the duo has taken the sound of hip-hop so far beyond rap that it would be simplistic to discuss its music in those terms alone.

From the start, P.M. Dawn's place in hip-hop seemed defiantly ambiguous. The lush, Anglo-pop arrangements, delicate hip-hop tracks and half-sung, half-spoken vocals of their 1991 debut, Of the Heart, of the Soul and of the Cross: The Utopian Experience, defied categorization and attracted a largely nonrap audience. The New Jersey pair didn't present aural vérité of the hood, nor did it directly address racial injustice; rather, P.M. Dawn waxed existential about God, love and the desire to transcend this unfathomable world. They veered even further afield of conventional rap on their sophomore LP, The Bliss Album ... ?, from 1993.

Not that Jesus Wept is a fringe album. Its overall milieu actually shares more with the slick New Jack sound of Babyface than with the more experimental tinkerings of Tricky. Prince Be and J.C. (a k a DJ Minutemix) use polished, almost overproduced vocal and instrumental tracks to lure you into a world of subtle chaos – a drum track that wanders slightly off beat, an edgy rock-guitar line, a drop-dead confessional lyric like "I can't stop screamin' 'cause I'm failing to entertain all of myself."

Doubt and confusion run rampant through Jesus Wept, an album whose very title suggests disappointment. Prince Be alludes to life's darker mysteries in his various musical shadings and his frequent use of the word shadows. In the psychedelic "My Own Personal Gravity," he asks, "Why am I always misinterpreting my guilt?" Yet he seems confident that if he can just let go of his worldly doubts, he will be redeemed by higher forces.

When you get beyond the incredible candy-coated surface, P.M. Dawn's songs are hardly soft. Prince Be's intelligent, enigmatic lyrics and J.C.'s deft mixes are almost subversive in the way they undermine the rules of every pop genre the duo mines. The sizzling "9:45 Wake-Up Dream" floats over a dub-bass line charged by a fuzzy rock-guitar hook and interrupted by a tempo change, a treated vocal part and faint, computerized bells. Underneath, the seductive poly-rhythmic currents flow like honey from beginning to end.

As P.M. Dawn move further away from rap, their occasional cosmic excesses fit well into the duo's vaguely religious-existential view of the world. "Bless me cursed with colorful emotions," Prince Be appeals to the Almighty in "Sometimes I Miss You So Much." Jesus Wept probably won't win over any hard-core hip-hop naysayers, but as a cohesive set of studio-perfect pop, it stands up to the works of two other legendary eccentrics, Brian Wilson and that other Prince – the one who changed his name to an unpronounceable symbol. (RS 720)

Anxiety said:

They had some cool cuts. One of my favorite was from the the movie that starred Grace Jones , & Halle Berry. I'll Die Without You.

MsLegs said:

Yes! it is on their The Bliss Album! also on there is their hit Looking Through Patient Eye's!

I own the first four PM Dawn albums. My favorite is "The Bliss Album" which is an absolute classic. "About Nothing", "Ways of the Wind", "Norweigen Wood", "I'd Die Without You"...this is the absolute soundtrack of my college days. "Jesus Wept" and "Dearest Christian" are also very good but "Bliss" is my favorite.

PM Dawn...definitely not plastic nor foul!

POOK said:

SHUT IT MONKEY

I don't think hardly any sampling was done on Dearest Christian.. maybe on a song or two

Been listening to Jesus Wept all day. This thread reminded me to put dearest christian on my ipod.

Sdldawn said:

i dunno about dearest christian, but i remember recognizing a black album sample on their first album and thinking it was a cheeky move. it's been a long time since i've owned that album, i wish i could reference it better...

Random question...at the beginning of Bliss there is a woman talking about "Prince", which one presumes to be Prince Be. But is whoever actually talking about our man Prince and Prince Be just sampled it so it sounded like she was talking about him?

Anxiety said:

Anxiety said:

Their first album was very sample heavy... as were their next two projects... but with each project there was less sampling and more in studio instrumentation.

Prince has said that he liked their first album..

Love this band. The most impressive part of the genius is that they produce everything themselves.

Jesus Wept was a really good album.

If I remember correctly they sampled a bit from under the cherry moon on their first album.

The part where Prince is in the Bath, I'm sure I remember hearing Prince say "I Wonder what tune she'd dance too" on one of the tracks on the first side of the album.

Sdldawn said:

I agree with everything you've said.
Thanx for letting me know what to look for.
I sent in the postcard from Dearest Christian and never received a response.

Oh yea, they rocked!!!!!

Under the Bridge and Being Nowhere are two of my f-a-v-e-s!

GottaLetitgo said:

PRINCE LIKE PRINCE BE

THEN REAL PRINCE WRITE SONG

ABOUT LOLLIPOP TAKE PRINCE NAME

REMEMBER THAT ONE ON CRYSTAL BALL?

Sdldawn said:

YEAH POOK RIGHT

HOW ABOUT PEE EMM DAWN LOVE YOU

YEAH POOK THOUGHT SO

HOW ABOUT JIM SULLIVAN SYNDROME

YEAH POOK THOUGHT SO

HOW ABOUT RAP ALBUM SUPPOSED TO COME OUT LAST YEAR

OR TRUE BELIEVER SONG

UNDER BRIDGE COVER?

BLURRY COVER?

IF THOSE COME OUT THEN POOK MISS IT

WHAT THOSE GUY UP TO HUH?

HELLO CONVERT TO MP3 SELL ON WEBSITE

IT NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE!

POOK said:

He has recorded all that.. it just hasn't been released. SO YOU WAIT IN THE CAGE MONKEY

Sdldawn said:

OK!

POOK WAIT FOR TEN MORE YEAR FOR PRINCE BE TO GET OFF BUTT AND RELEASE RECORD

POOK said:

GET BACK IN YOUR CAGE NOW!

New pm dawn song on their myspace page for sale.

It is called If You Stay.
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Let's get a few P.M. Dawn videos in here:





This one^^^ is THE best way to rock a George Michael sample. JC was so underrated as a producers/beatmaker.

Are you for real on these two albums? If so, do you know of any copies on eBay or Amazon?

Sdldawn said:

"I'd Die Without Chew"