who do you think who was the best rapper overall>?
2pac who was more of a poet and biggie who was a great freestyler , he didnt wrote songs but he rapped on the song when played.
discuss please

They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

How about... Rakim or Big Daddy Kane?

Overweight rappers: Chubb Rock or Heavy D?

Both average as hell.....Let's talk KRS-One.

I would say 2pac was a little better as a lyricist but i echo the
sentiment of everyone who has posted so far that they were overrated
especiallay as far as being mentioned the best of all time.
Just to mention a few who are better q-tip, black thought, common,
krs-one, rakim, grand puba.

I'm waiting on Vainandy to his unique perspective....

I'm right here. I don't know which one was better....at making me vomit. Hmmm, it's a tie.

vainandy said:

lol.....tie 4 last.

motownlover said:

Biggie has a better rhyme flow.

But 2pac was a far better songwriter! Apart from Prince, I don't know any artist from any genre that wrote songs & poems as often as 'Pac did.

Giovanni777 said:

Cinnie & I both agree the Rakim is the real G.O.A.T.

But in a battle rap, Rakim VS KRS-One might take at least a 100 rounds to decide a clear winner.

i in particular am not a fan of rap music , but i do find that these cats did had game, although people like rakim and big daddy kane where great as well.probally better . but i dont find them over rated as rappers because compared to todays rappers they certainly are better
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TonyVanDam said:

Pac track:
187 MF...thuglife....N****....

track 2: N****.....187 MF.....Thuglife.....Kill....Gangster

Track 3: mama

Track 4: 187 Mf.....gangster.....

U get the point.

vainandy said:

At least 'Pac had 2 songs in his life time that were over the 95 BPM mark. Biggie had none at all in his life time.

So most likely, I think you will hate Biggie a lot worse.

Graycap23 said:

You don't know jack shit about 'Pac by the way you're taking a piss out of the man. Those look more like rap songs from Spice 1!

ALL RAP/HIP HOP IS BULLSHIT !
But Biggie is waaaaay more interesting as a rapper than Tupac..
Or damn near any of them IMO !

TonyVanDam said:

Tony, thank you because I was gonna say the same thing

TonyVanDam said:

U can add me 2 that... Rakim IS the greatest. As far as battles go, that's not fair, as Rakim wasn't about battles at all. Kane was though. KRS, most def.

I honestly like 50 Cent more than both of them combined. So suck it!

Giovanni777 said:[quote]They both sucked as far as I'm concerned... 2 of the most overrated rappers of all time.

Empress said:[quote]

Giovanni777 said:

It's true though, right?

If U put Biggie up against Grand Puba, Chubb Rock, Kane, Rakim, or nearly anyone from '87 to '92... well... U get the point, my dear.

Giovanni777 said:[quote]

Empress said:

Hey, I'm not a fan of either, so yes I do agree!

Pac was Prince fan. So i'd say Pac.

TonyVanDam said:

Lol.....I have all of his work, that's 75% of his material.

I never really dug Biggie. He made it seem easy, yes, but he never really seemed to say much that meant anything.

Tupac had a way to go to reach his potential, but he was one of the most charismatic & powerful performers in hip hop. Even when he was saying something ignorant it felt important.

Well, to answer the question, Tupac was more poetic, Biggie, more versatile. I prefer Biggie, but that's a hard question to answer.

As to the larger question, Rakim is the greatest MC of all time. He revolutionized MCing. Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone would also be on hip-hop's Mount Rushmore.

namepeace said:

I need 2 relisten 2 this cat. I've always thought that Krs-1 was the best.

2Pac: Very from the core rap style. Sounded like he was rapping from the pit of his stomach. Talked about things and in a style that appealed to thug life. Great diction.

Biggie Smalls: Would use and abuse the rhythm and the flow. Lyrics were tight, but his patterns were off the hook.


Personally, I prefer KRS One and Chuck D as the better lyricists, Rakim as better overall rapper. But I'm a fan of the genre, and so many people have built they steelo on other peoples' flow that the inspirations start to mish and mash. Of course, I have a bit of a N.Y. bias since that's what I came up listening too.

motownlover said:

While I love 2Pacs words, Biggies flow and delivery walked on 2Pac...plus..I love Brooklyn..im going with biggie...even for lil Kim being his underdog protege and Puffy being behind him only helped.
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I liked them both, can't say which was better. It would depend on my mood (who I'd listen to @ a particular time)...

Graycap23 said:

The problem with Rakim is that he wasn't as prolific as KRS-ONE.

It always trips me out when I hear the later artists say they either were influenced by or are a Prince fan. The first thing I think is, hell, Prince jams, why don't you?
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