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PrintableBlaqueKnight said: LittleAmy said: IMO, the biggest problem with contemporary black popular music is that it has been stuck on the same style for more than 15 years. Namely, the co-opting of rap into the genre. Historically, black pop music would grab onto certain elements or styles for a few years and then it would move on. But since circa 1993, it's been very little more than slowed-down, stripped-down music where the artists are singing with a rapper as a guest star or a rapper with a singer as a guest star or an artist half-singing and half-rapping.
SoulAlive said: The merging of hip-hop with R&B is one reason why much of today's R&B is crap.I can't listen to artists like Mariah Carey,Beyonce and Keyshia Cole for this very reason.They're not making "soul music",they're making watered-down,shit hop-sounding R&B.....basically,just singing on top of instrumental tracks that would have otherwise been given to some rapper.
Truth. And to top it off, instead of rebelling and becoming more creative, R&B artists just fell in line. It should also be stated that 99% of these so-called Rap and RB duets, mergers, remixes, etc...were all bullshit, and were nothing more than to make money, and everyone cashed in. Just like in the 80's when every metal band/rock band made sure their second single was a ballad, NONE of them wanted to do ballads, and i can almost guarantee that 90% or more of these RB artists would admit they were backed into doing these bullshit mergers with hip hop. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Anxiety said: Dance said: 1. I hate the phrase "urban music." I hate people using the term urban. Excuse my language, but it's so fucking racist and disgusting.
it took me a while to understand what they were talking about when they'd talk about "urban radio" or "urban music". for the longest time, i was like "so this is music meant for city folk?" and then i thought it was weird that most of it was R&B and hip-hop and then i realized what was going on. i think it's a very passive-aggressive, insulting label. do we have "rural music"? country music. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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TonyVanDam said: Anxiety said: it took me a while to understand what they were talking about when they'd talk about "urban radio" or "urban music". for the longest time, i was like "so this is music meant for city folk?" and then i thought it was weird that most of it was R&B and hip-hop and then i realized what was going on. i think it's a very passive-aggressive, insulting label. do we have "rural music"? rural music = country, blues, & folk Oh man, that is soooo wrong. Rural music is rap. Young country dudes used to be into heavy metal...now they are all into rap - so called "urban" music. | |
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Moonbeam said: I agree with a lot of this, but mentioning Will Smith as a viable candidate for someone who transitioned well into music (or acting) made me laugh.
 Well, he IS one of the biggest box office draws in history AND an Oscar nominee (Latifah is too) so how else would you define a successful transition? | |
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JustErin said: TonyVanDam said: rural music = country, blues, & folk Oh man, that is soooo wrong. Rural music is rap. Young country dudes used to be into heavy metal...now they are all into rap - so called "urban" music. I'm talking origin-wise, not current-wise. 
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Timmy84 said: BlaqueKnight said: The author of the article didn't create the term "urban" and popularize it to mean "pertaining to black people". The mainstream media did. You're just playing catch up, Anx.
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"Commercialisation of the music... is what brought it down"
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BlaqueKnight said: Anxiety said: if rock/hip-hop are "urban music" and country/folk/blues are "rural music", then what are jazz and classical - "suburban music"??? Sounds about right. Jazz/Classical/Easy Listening = 35+ crowd. That's how it used to be. However, nowadays it's the complete opposite. It's the 35+ crowd that likes to jam and throwdown and it's the 35- crowd that is so slow that they need to be put in a rocking chair on somebody's front porch. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I wish I cared about "urban" music, but I don't.
No diss to bk for pointing out the article, but I haven't been "r&b-friendly" since the mid-80s. All this hip-hop idiocy irritates me, so I don't listen to the stuff. test | |
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One good thing that is happening in the current age of music is that since music as product is moving differently, particularly because in my view, technology has helped a WHOLE LOT MORE than it has hurt, and so people you wouldn't get the chance to hear, simply because they don't have the traditional record deal, now get a chance to share their voice/vision with you. Prime example - there's an artist on Garage Band, Ascian, with a song "Voices From the Ether" - it is one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs I've heard in years. and I wouldn't have heard it if not for the ability to share mp3 files. | |
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welllll,
as I have noticed about this topic, over the last ten yrs maybe more, andeven though I posted the video on a thread I started--this needs to change urban music. http://www.youtube.com/wa...qWF2TNSjUc nipsy | |
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