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NuPwr319 said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOjQkXMaNA
In a way, it's amazing that New Edition had the careers they had individually and collectively because for a vocal group they weren't good singers (Johnny Gill being the exception). As for the boy band issue, that actually is a strength for their candidacy. N.E.'s model was the template in soul music from the late '80s through the start of the decade and the template in pop music from the mid-'90s through the start of the decade. [Edited 6/25/08 20:42pm] | |
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SUPRMAN said: murph said: Of course they will...anyone that says differently doesn't know anything about music over the past 25 years... That is the silliest post I've read all day I do believe. Co-sign!! | |
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funksterr said: They had almost no pop success as 'New Edition' and that will hurt them.
Bobby Brown has the best shot because he had a major pop career going for awhile. Even though I'm a huge NE fan, I would not be mad if they did not get in the hall. Yep..I feel u...here's a little "pop" chart history of New Edition (keep in mind they were killing the R&B charts as a group...And as solo acts they had even more success on the pop charts...) Mr. Telephone Man The Billboard Hot 100 #12 Cool It Now The Billboard Hot 100 4 If It Isn t Love The Billboard Hot 100 7 Hit Me Off The Billboard Hot 100 3 Little Bit Of Love (Is All It Takes)--The Billboard Hot 100 --38 Lost In Love The Billboard Hot 100 35 I m Still In Love With You--The Billboard Hot 100--7 [Edited 6/25/08 20:58pm] | |
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SUPRMAN said: murph said: Of course they will...anyone that says differently doesn't know anything about music over the past 25 years... That is the silliest post I've read all day I do believe. Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential? I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... Do your homework on them...Hell, you don't even have to be a fan to know what they meant to the R&B community and beyond...u might be surprised... [Edited 6/25/08 20:51pm] | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Barry White ain't in the Hall yet eitha ...
Thanks for reminding me!  | |
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LittleAmy said: NuPwr319 said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOjQkXMaNA
In a way, it's amazing that New Edition had the careers they had individually and collectively because for a vocal group they weren't good singers (Johnny Gill being the exception). As for the boy band issue, that actually is a strength for their candidacy. N.E.'s model was the template in soul music from the late '80s through the start of the decade and the template in pop music from the mid-'90s through the start of the decade. [Edited 6/25/08 20:42pm] ^^^^a very imformed post....No one is saying NE were the greatest singers in the world...lol But their impact in their space and the age of R&B crossing over in the late '80s and early '90s is huge.... | |
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They don't belong there.
But this group does 
http://www.youtube.com/wa...I3inHqe1G4 [Edited 6/25/08 21:01pm] | |
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Dance said: They don't belong there.
But this group does
What is this supposed to mean? | |
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murph said: Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential?
I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... I agree with you, but IMO New Edition is being discounted because they were not a consistent presence with white music audiences and (like it or not) that's on the stage New Edition will be evaluated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Let's face it, if N.E. mirrored the success they had on the R&B charts on the pop charts their busts would be printed. But they should be given credit to some degree on the pop side because acts like New Kids On The Block, The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were modeled after N.E.'s template. | |
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Dance said: They don't belong there.
But this group does
http://www.youtube.com/wa...I3inHqe1G4 [Edited 6/25/08 21:01pm]   | |
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murph said: Dance said: They don't belong there.
But this group does
What is this supposed to mean? http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related | |
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murph said: Yep..I feel u...here's a little "pop" chart history of New Edition (keep in mind they were killing the R&B charts as a group...And as solo acts they had even more success on the pop charts...)
Exactly. N.E. had 16 top 10 hits and 5 No. 1 singles on the Billboard R&B charts. All their straightforward albums went platinum and even their novelty album of standards, "Under the Blue Moon," went gold -- and this was way before the advent of the Internet, downloadable music and all-access video and music channels. Not to mention that this was mostly in an era where unless you were a crossover-conscious act no soul act crossed over. Then when you factor in what N.E. did as solo acts (each member having at least a platinum album and one No. 1 single on the soul charts and a top 10 pop hit) plus being the template for both genres for more than a decade ... [Edited 6/25/08 21:13pm] | |
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i know they will never get in, but looking at some of these rap acts they are cnsidering for the hall, ne damn sure deserve to be there, and if janet was a white artist she would have gotten in 1st ballad...say all you want about her not being a good singer and all the thousands of other things people use to bash her, you cannot deny the impact she made with control and the lane she started for female performers behind her. | |
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lowkey said: i know they will never get in, but looking at some of these rap acts they are cnsidering for the hall, ne damn sure deserve to be there, and if janet was a white artist she would have gotten in 1st ballad...say all you want about her not being a good singer and all the thousands of other things people use to bash her, you cannot deny the impact she made with control and the lane she started for female performers behind her.
Her impact was that she made it acceptable to the masses to be a crap artist. | |
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Dance said: lowkey said: i know they will never get in, but looking at some of these rap acts they are cnsidering for the hall, ne damn sure deserve to be there, and if janet was a white artist she would have gotten in 1st ballad...say all you want about her not being a good singer and all the thousands of other things people use to bash her, you cannot deny the impact she made with control and the lane she started for female performers behind her.
Her impact was that she made it acceptable to the masses to be a crap artist. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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murph said: SUPRMAN said: That is the silliest post I've read all day I do believe. Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential? I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... Do your homework on them...Hell, you don't even have to be a fan to know what they meant to the R&B community and beyond...u might be surprised... [Edited 6/25/08 20:51pm] No need to do homework, I had to live through New Edition. Boys II Men a much better group.New Edition was based on the Jackson 5, saw it all in the 70's, the Osmonds, The Sylvers, New Edition was okay for what they were. Never came close to Boys II Men or The Jackson 5. You may like them but I don't see them getting in. Especially when you can induct Boys II Men to basically represent the R & B boy groups of the '80's and 90's? BTW, only Can You Stand The Rain and If It Isn't Love made it onto the IPod. [Edited 6/25/08 23:16pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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LittleAmy said: murph said: Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential?
I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... I agree with you, but IMO New Edition is being discounted because they were not a consistent presence with white music audiences and (like it or not) that's on the stage New Edition will be evaluated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Let's face it, if N.E. mirrored the success they had on the R&B charts on the pop charts their busts would be printed. But they should be given credit to some degree on the pop side because acts like New Kids On The Block, The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were modeled after N.E.'s template. Try The Jackson 5 Template. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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LittleAmy said: murph said: Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential?
I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... I agree with you, but IMO New Edition is being discounted because they were not a consistent presence with white music audiences and (like it or not) that's on the stage New Edition will be evaluated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Let's face it, if N.E. mirrored the success they had on the R&B charts on the pop charts their busts would be printed. But they should be given credit to some degree on the pop side because acts like New Kids On The Block, The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were modeled after N.E.'s template. I dig it...U make some strong points...But they should get credit beyond their influence on "boy bands"...And let it be said I don't think people should all agree that they WILL make it to the Hall...Given the history of the RRHOF and how political it has been (I still can't believe that Donna Summers is not in there...), it will be hard...But I do believe NE should make it in... My problem is not the folks in this thread that say that New Edition will not get in the Hall...It's the folks that know nothing about their impact on the culture of R&B and pop over the last 25 years, dismissing them like they were Color Me Bad or something..LOL...And this is to be expected for folks that didn't grow up in that culture... Let's put this way...It's tough to name a vocal group over the last 25 years that have had more than five platinum albums as an act and then went on to bigger success on their solo albums....Bobby Brown, BBD, Ralph, and Johnny Gill have all either had platinum or multi-platinum albums and various pop chart hits...But beyond that they are bridge to New Jack Swing and the huge R&B cross-over year of '93, on which R&B acts had the best year in the history of the Billboard charts.... Like I said...Folks are screaming about Joan Jett, who broke a lot of doors and certainly deserves to get in the Hall..I repeat...JOAN JETT DESERVES to get in because she was breaking down doors....But if the way to hall is having a huge cross-over impact then Jett would have a tough time given that she has only had two platinum and one gold albums...It has to be about something else, right? Well, folks need to judge New Edition the same way. [Edited 6/25/08 23:49pm] | |
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SUPRMAN said: murph said: Why?...because u r not taking account that their impact on R&B and pop from 1983 to 1996 was highly influential? I get it...New Edition may not sound like a serious act to some folks...Hell, for a lot of folks on this site they have never heard of NE beyond Bobby Brown..But when you take in account their own success as a group and their solo success (we are talking about an act that managed to cross over in a huge way...) it's not so far fetched.... Do your homework on them...Hell, you don't even have to be a fan to know what they meant to the R&B community and beyond...u might be surprised... [Edited 6/25/08 20:51pm] No need to do homework, I had to live through New Edition. Boys II Men a much better group.New Edition was based on the Jackson 5, saw it all in the 70's, the Osmonds, The Sylvers, New Edition was okay for what they were. Never came close to Boys II Men or The Jackson 5. You may like them but I don't see them getting in. Especially when you can induct Boys II Men to basically represent the R & B boy groups of the '80's and 90's? BTW, only Can You Stand The Rain and If It Isn't Love made it onto the IPod. [Edited 6/25/08 23:16pm] First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] | |
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murph said: SUPRMAN said: No need to do homework, I had to live through New Edition. Boys II Men a much better group.New Edition was based on the Jackson 5, saw it all in the 70's, the Osmonds, The Sylvers, New Edition was okay for what they were. Never came close to Boys II Men or The Jackson 5. You may like them but I don't see them getting in. Especially when you can induct Boys II Men to basically represent the R & B boy groups of the '80's and 90's? BTW, only Can You Stand The Rain and If It Isn't Love made it onto the IPod. [Edited 6/25/08 23:16pm] First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. So what if they came after? The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No one had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. [Edited 6/25/08 23:57pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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murph said: SUPRMAN said: No need to do homework, I had to live through New Edition. Boys II Men a much better group.New Edition was based on the Jackson 5, saw it all in the 70's, the Osmonds, The Sylvers, New Edition was okay for what they were. Never came close to Boys II Men or The Jackson 5. You may like them but I don't see them getting in. Especially when you can induct Boys II Men to basically represent the R & B boy groups of the '80's and 90's? BTW, only Can You Stand The Rain and If It Isn't Love made it onto the IPod. [Edited 6/25/08 23:16pm] First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] I agree. To compare though, we have a group Chicago, this group had top ten hits, number-one hits and all of that, have been around for 30 years BUT... They're also NOT in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. You gotta wonder how the committee votes who they vote for *coughpoliticscough* | |
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SUPRMAN said: murph said: First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. If the R&R HOF was ALL about talent, a lot of motherfuckers would be in by now. :loL: Talent and hits are two-halves of what you need to get in, the thing NE has is influence. Yeah they weren't big pop stars but neither was Solomon Burke, Grandmaster Flash & the like, but they did influence even those talented Philly boys. BTW, I think Babyface would be inducted before BIIM ever do. | |
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Timmy84 said: SUPRMAN said: But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. If the R&R HOF was ALL about talent, a lot of motherfuckers would be in by now. :loL: Talent and hits are two-halves of what you need to get in, the thing NE has is influence. Yeah they weren't big pop stars but neither was Solomon Burke, Grandmaster Flash & the like, but they did influence even those talented Philly boys. BTW, I think Babyface would be inducted before BIIM ever do. Babyface will be eligible first. By at least 8-10 years maybe? He should go in first ballot. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Timmy84 said: SUPRMAN said: But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. If the R&R HOF was ALL about talent, a lot of motherfuckers would be in by now. :loL: Talent and hits are two-halves of what you need to get in, the thing NE has is influence. Yeah they weren't big pop stars but neither was Solomon Burke, Grandmaster Flash & the like, but they did influence even those talented Philly boys. BTW, I think Babyface would be inducted before BIIM ever do. Babyface will be eligible first. By at least 8-10 years maybe? He should go in first ballot. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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SUPRMAN said: Timmy84 said: If the R&R HOF was ALL about talent, a lot of motherfuckers would be in by now. :loL: Talent and hits are two-halves of what you need to get in, the thing NE has is influence. Yeah they weren't big pop stars but neither was Solomon Burke, Grandmaster Flash & the like, but they did influence even those talented Philly boys. BTW, I think Babyface would be inducted before BIIM ever do. Babyface will be eligible first. By at least 8-10 years maybe? He should go in first ballot. Question is how will he be inducted: 1.) As a performer 2.) As a non-performer (songwriter, producer, label exec, etc.) [Edited 6/26/08 0:10am] | |
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SUPRMAN said:[quote] murph said: First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] U said: But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. Murph: Yes...Boyz II Men had better singing voices than New Edition...But their impact is minimal...Their concerts boring...And again, they got on with the help of a New Edition member...They were signed and groomed by Mike Bivens...That's part of the New Edition legacy... U said: The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. Murph: No...I'm saying that what they did had never done to that level in terms of group and solo success...I'm saying that there are groups that make it to the Hall because of their overall impact beyond album sales...New Edition should get the same benifit of the doubt... U Said: IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. Murph: Nah...I only mentioned it because that's part of their legacy...It is what it is... U Said: The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. Murph: Dude...That's because no one had ever seen a group that went platinum five times and had more success as solo acts... Like I said, by mentioning Boys II Men as a '80s and '90s group and not knowing their connection to New Edition, that shows you may have to do a little more homework...Not disrespect... [Edited 6/26/08 0:16am] | |
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murph said:[quote] SUPRMAN said: murph said: First...I'm looking at the big picture here...New edition doesn't get in simply because of their albums...They get in for their solo work, group albums and overall impact... As for what made it in your IPOD, that's all you homie...The irony is, without New Edition there would be no Boyz II Men (does Michael Bivens ring a bell?)...lol... Btw, Boyz II Men came out in the early '90s, not the '80s...By that time, New Edition had already released 5 albums...they came out in '83...That was waaaaay before a certain memeber of New Edition discovered Boys II Men and put them out on his label...).... Like I said, there's some homework to do... [Edited 6/25/08 23:45pm] U said: But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. Murph: Yes...Boyz II Men had better singing voices than New Edition...But their impact is minimal...Their concerts boring...And again, they got on with the help of a New Edition member...They were signed and groomed by Mike Bivens...That's part of the New Edition legacy... U said: The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. Murph: No...I'm saying that what they did had never done to that level in terms of group and solo success...I'm saying that there are groups that make it to the Hall that made it because of their overall impact beyond album sales...New Edition should get the same benifit od the doubt... U Said: IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. Murph: Nah...I only mentioned it because that's part of their legacy...It is what it is... U Said: The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. Murph: Dude...lol...I'll give you the Jacksons group albums...They have some great works...And MJ is one of the most important acts of all time...But the other brothers have never had the type of solo success that New Edition had...Hell, by himself, Bobby sold close to 10 million albums on one album ("Don't Be Cruel")...and that's just Bobby...they all have gone platinum or double or triple...But again, it's bigger than that...They are the template for the modern male group, as well as raising the bar... Like I said, by mentioning Boys II Men as a '80s and '90s group and not knowing their connection to New Edition, that shows you may have to do a little more homework...Not disrespect... [Edited 6/26/08 0:13am] Of course I knew of their connection to New Edition, it doesn't make New Edition a better group. I was guessing 80 and 90's rather than looking it up. You caught me there. The rest we're just not going to agree on so I can agree to disagree. YOU'RE the New Edition fan. You do good work also. (addressing each point etc)
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SUPRMAN said:[quote] murph said: U said: But Boys II Men were better than New Edition. Murph: Yes...Boyz II Men had better singing voices than New Edition...But their impact is minimal...Their concerts boring...And again, they got on with the help of a New Edition member...They were signed and groomed by Mike Bivens...That's part of the New Edition legacy... U said: The 'big picture' as you say doesn't move me. We would only be inducting the group New Edition. Saying you have to look at their solo work suggests that New Editions catalog needs crutches at least. Murph: No...I'm saying that what they did had never done to that level in terms of group and solo success...I'm saying that there are groups that make it to the Hall that made it because of their overall impact beyond album sales...New Edition should get the same benifit od the doubt... U Said: IF New Edition were all that, you would not have to mention their solo efforts. Murph: Nah...I only mentioned it because that's part of their legacy...It is what it is... U Said: The Jackson 5 certainly got in on their own catalog and not Michael's success. No had to add Jermaine and Tito's solo careers to make a case for The Jackson 5 to be in the hall. Murph: Dude...lol...I'll give you the Jacksons group albums...They have some great works...And MJ is one of the most important acts of all time...But the other brothers have never had the type of solo success that New Edition had...Hell, by himself, Bobby sold close to 10 million albums on one album ("Don't Be Cruel")...and that's just Bobby...they all have gone platinum or double or triple...But again, it's bigger than that...They are the template for the modern male group, as well as raising the bar... Like I said, by mentioning Boys II Men as a '80s and '90s group and not knowing their connection to New Edition, that shows you may have to do a little more homework...Not disrespect... [Edited 6/26/08 0:13am] Of course I knew of their connection to New Edition, it doesn't make New Edition a better group.
I never said it did...I said that New Editon was a more impactful and important group...To me that matters more in this debate... I was guessing 80 and 90's rather than looking it up. You caught me there.The rest we're just not going to agree on so I can agree to disagree.
YOU'RE the New Edition fan. You do good work also. (addressing each point etc)...I say they don't get in but there's time yet, so we shall see.It's all good...I get what you are saying about Boyz II Men being the better group vocally...I just think Boys II Men mean little in the big picture...New Edition opened the door for the new generation of male vocal groups...We will see indeed... | |
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Nah. While they were very popular and still maintain a nostalgic hold over the kids from that generation who are now adults, as a group they were essentially a bubblegum act and didn't do anything particulary innovative in their careers to be considered pioneers. They did at least, just get honored the other night for their 25 years in music by ASCAP. At the height of their fame, collectively New Edition made 18 Million dollars. Makes me wonder what the HELL happened to Bobby Brown that his ass is always so broke? | |
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