SIDENOTE: I wonder how the east coast is going to respond now.

http://hiphopnews.yuku.com/topic/640


Let's face one harsh hip-hop reality (for a lot of folks)! The South is runnin' the rap game and has been for the last few years! One of the main reasons that the South has the rap game on lock is because there is UNITY! Sure, the South has had its share of beefs.
Young Jeezy had beef with Gucci Mane (squashed!).
T.I.
had beef with Ludacris (squashed!).
T.I.
had beef with Lil Flip (passé'!).
Shawty Lo tryna start beef with T.I.
(easy win for T.I.).
Khia has beef with Trina (Who cares?) A couple of Texas rappers had some issues. Petty stuff! When we think about Southern hip-hop, "beef" doesn't come to mind. Southern rappers collaborate on more mixtapes, albums, and videos. Imagine trying to get all the New York rappers on a hip-hop magazine cover like those Texas rappers! It ain't gonna happen.


These Northern rappers are all over the beef place! 5o Cent vs.
Ja Rule, The Game, Cam'ron, Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Jr.
Mafia vs.
Dipset, Jay-Z vs.
Nas, Jim Jones, Uncle Murder vs.
Papoose and Big Truck, Fat Joe vs.
Papoose, Maino vs.
Lil Cease, Nycks (Oh you mad 'cause I'm Stylin' On You!) vs.
E-N-J, etc., etc. etc. These Northern rappers are your classic "crabs-in-a-barrel." Instead of bringing back that Northern lyricism and hit-making sound that the world has come to know as rap music, they are stuck in internecine struggle (in-fighting!).
Meanwhile, the South is getting that money!

Don't get me wrong! I'll never hate on the North! I'm rooting for the North! LL Cool J, Run DMC, Jay-Z, Nas, and Biggie are among the greatest! But I also think that Lil Wayne, T.I., Ludacris, Rick Ross, and Clipse, (to name a few) are the shyt too! I'll go on record and say that before it's all said and done Lil Wayne will become "Rakim-esque" or "Tupac-esque.
"

I'm not stuck in regional hip-hop la-la land! I'm a Dirty South brotha, raised in Miami, but Miami does not define my taste in rap music, because I understand that we are all one people-Black, White, Hispanic, Jewish, Asian, etc. Lucy/Eve is our eponymous mother.
You feel me?

Every black person in New York is only a generation or two removed from the South! So why are you hatin'? Your daddy's daddy's daddy's nut-sack is of Southern origin! The South is the backbone of the African-American experience! The South is the cradle of black folks' existence! The South is the womb of Northern progressiveness! The South is the birthplace of Call and Response, Ragtime, Jazz, Gospel, R&B… and by extension-RAP/HIP-HOP! The South has a rich heritage of Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU's), as seen in movies such as Stomp The Yard-a movie depicting the wonderful rhythmic intricacies of black college fraternity and sorority "stepping," which is an extension of the African drum and dance tradition with hip-hop and krump dance-and Drumline-a movie which displays the awesome power of black marching bands like the world has never seen! "Band geek?" Puhleazzzee! Not in the South! Get that country bumpkin mentality out of your mind! You have not seen a marching band until you've seen the Florida A&M Marching 100! (F.A.M.U.
)-Eight Drum Majors-360 members-Death March cadence into a 100 step per minute march called "the Rattler!" Super Bowl XLI halftime appearance with Prince!

The South birthed the Civil Rights Movement, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
, Stokely Carmichael (Kwame Toure of Black Power/S.N.C.C.
/Black Panther Party), Elijah Muhammad (founder of the Nation of Islam and spiritual teacher of Northern Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan, Five Percent Nation), Muhammad Ali and many, many other notables!

As Fat Joe raps, "Why is everybody mad at the South…?" Don't get it twisted! The SOUTH Bronx may be the literal birthplace of hip-hop, but its roots lie in the Dirty-Dirty (the South).
And by the way, can somebody please explain where the South is? You know… the Civil War, the Emancipation Proclamation and which states were under Southern Confederate rule under president Jefferson Davis, the Mason-Dixon Line, time zones and all of that other ignant crap he was pontificating about that he should have learned in junior high school history and civics class! Just for your information, if you check the history books, the "TRUE SOUTH" is Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas and Tennessee!!! Virginia, Kentucky, Florida and TEXAS are considered "secondary" Southern states! Texas is part of the "pseudo-South"! Check your history! If ATL is not the South, then Texas is not a part of America!

Let's face it! Ever since Tupac put the strong pimp-hand down on New York with "Hit 'em Up" the North hasn't been the same! Tupac exposed New York as the "Suge Knight" (bully) of rap and set into motion the thought that brothas in the South and other areas could actually have a voice independent of what their Northern counterparts were rapping.
Instead of hatin' and bitchin' and bloggin' and showing your bitchassness on the South, figure out a way to get it poppin' in the North 'cause at the end of the day, we're all in the SAME GAME! Until then, tough shyt!

TonyVanDam said:

If he thinks Virginia is a "secondary" Southern state, he's an idiot. It's not part of the Deep South, but you can't have the South without VA.

Sometimes people like him makes it a shame to be from North Carolina!

AlexdeParis said:

Florida is more south than all of the other southern states. It's THE deepest south.

TonyVanDam said:

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Every black person in New York is only a generation or two removed from the South! So why are you hatin'? Your daddy's daddy's daddy's nut-sack is of Southern origin!----

Because the music sucks. That is the reason people in the north are hating.
I just wish someone would make the clear.

South, north, west or east.

Its a fuckin' PLANTATION where ever you put it. These dumb mofos don't have a 1/2 ounce of my respect. Hard enough that people are bringing us down without US bringin' down our own(for class, skine shade,,,and NOW, for origins ). On REAL dumb shit, man.

If you're black in America, the dick is far up your ass TO your mouth, it don't matter what state you live in or how much money you got, and seeing some of MY people cater to this old "divide & conquer" tactic proves why we'll NEVER get ahead untill we squash this petty foolishness.

But seeing how these ignant ass mofos carry on,,,my guess is, that won't happen anytime soon.
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AlexdeParis said:

You'd be surprised. When I tell people I'm from the south, they inevitably ask where. I say, "North Carolina."

I'd approximate that 50% of people say, "Oh, that's not the south."

Timmy84 said:

My wife and I say this all the time while watching reality shows. Invariably, the person who says the most ass-backwards, ignorant shit is gonna be from...yup, NC. Well, technically, she's from NY, so she's really laughing at me, not with me.


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RipHer2Shreds said:

what city are you from, Rip?

unkemptpueblo said:

I should have phrased that differently. I grew up in Fayetteville, NC, but have lived my adult life in Minneapolis.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Next time, ask to see their high school diploma.

RipHer2Shreds said:

gotcha

I'd be ashamed to have published this. A fifth grader could compose a better essay. Whatever the merits of his argument, the piece is so poorly written that it serves as a cautionary tale: this is what happens when you do not stay in school.

AlexdeParis said:

No! You're an idiot! He's not talking about your perception of the South in 2008! He's referring to the "true South" circa 1800's before, during, and after slavery. And he's right! Google or Wikipedia and read which states were considered the "South" and which states were considered "secondary" southern states. This ain't up for debate! This is HISTORY!

namepeace said:

what kind of Prince elitist jerk are you? You wrote,"I'd be ashamed to have published this." Is this proper sentence structure...ending a sentence with "this."? [Flame Snipped - June7]

Harlepolis said:

THEN AGAIN:

[Snipping Photos - June7]

macdaddyone,

macdaddyone said:

I AM a literate kind that doesn't call names like a child every time I disagree with someone. You're the latest poster boy in the "Save Our People" campaign.

And try to use the "big boy" voice in an adult forum. My, we're sensitive.

And I probably know more about hip-hop than you can hope to know. I WOULD just prefer that writers write well. Call me an elitist all you want. Bask in ignorance if you so choose. You silly little boy.
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Dance said:

What's the point for posting this ???

macdaddyone said:

I suggest you take your own advice. Here, I'll help you out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ted_States



Let me know if you need help finding Virginia.

TonyVanDam said:

Geographically, but as far as culturally IMO Florida is almost its own region. The Hispanic and Cuban mix (especially in the lower part of the state) is too prevalent and diverse. When I think of The South, I don't think of Florida -- I think of Virginia down the corridor to the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and across to Tenessee, Kentucky and Arkansas. Louisiana is almost in a similar bag as Florida, IMO.

RipHer2Shreds said:

I don't know how in the world someone would figure that. They can't be so clueless they think the "North" part of "North Carolina" means it's somewhere near New Hampshire. Tell them to take a U.S. history class or grab a map.
[Edited 7/3/08 16:10pm]

AlexdeParis said:

Now, now, that's not nice. Picking on children and all.

AlexdeParis said:

Kentucky was always part of The Dirty South. It was just as Rebel-bound as Tennessee.

LittleAmy said:

Miami & Orlando are consider the "safest" havens of racial diversity & harmony in Florida. But all of those towns outside of those 2 cities are by all accounts, THE deepest south. Even Panama City Beach is the south in a cultural sense.

TonyVanDam said:

I've heard the same thing from Floridians of color.