cheeseburger said:

eye have no problem with either 1 of them. infact eye think they'r both great singers & dancers & both sexy.
but u gone hav 2 get offa Obama!!!!

DreZone said:

They both suck ass too.

They can't sing.

Their writing is a joke.

And their music is the product of synth muppets.

Cause they get the attention they don't deserve, when the industry passes on Rahsaan Patterson, whos last album DEFINES what soul music should be about, Donnie, Van Hunt, Ben Harper, who actually play and can sing. Even Anthony Hamilton who is fairly famous is still so underrated. Once you check out those artist, listen to Usher and Neyo again and see who's got more soul, more talent.

Anxiety said:

Damn.

Usher reminds me of the popular guy at a high school dance in 1983. Yeah he is decent looking, and he dances better than me, but I'm definitely not giving him my money, because he is having sex with the girl I'm in love with and she can't see he's basically empty & doesn't care about her.

You have a point - it's an ultimate arrogance for a generation to presume that any music that comes after them is less than. This is just what we used to get upset at our parents for, too, so it's also hypocritical. But try to tell that to some knuckleheads, and they really ain't tryin' to hear it.

cheeseburger said:

On the other hand, in my opinion, the one thing that makes Prince so unique is that he is the total package. I can't think of any other artist out there, save NIN, that know how to do EVERYTHING - producing, performing (all instruments), arranging, engineering, marketing, publicity, composing, entertaining, manufacturing, dancing...etc. How he does all these things today, in comparison to long ago, is a different subject. Everything leads up to Prince, and it splinters away after Prince.

eaglebear4839 said:

4849 said:

That's some of the funniest shit I've ever heard




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Oh wait, you weren't joking

mdd said:

Co-sign

I'm not gonna clown them. They are makin' that paper. They just don't have all that Much talent. I thought Sisqo could sing all three of those clowns under the table. The problem is that they don't bring anything remotely artistic or original to the table, and if you add in the fact that they aren't even good singers then what do you have left? They are getting by on dance steps and trying to appeal to 12 year old girls. (BTW, Don't they seem a bit TANGY?)

(Heck Chris brown hardly sings live!)

I'll throw on Johnny Gill or Luther any day before those losers.

Cause the Stevie Wonder snippet "Knockin' At Your Door" is more clever, soulful and sincere that "Moving Mountains"

While they're not as horrific as any OTT orger on here thinks and since the Org has no concept of a DEVELOPING ARTIST (Prince anyone? When was his first HIT album? Oh that's right...FIVE YEARS INTO HIS CAREER!)

As much as orgers complain about the disposable instant pop of today, they don't realise that by expecting MJ and Prince standards from young men, they're gonna get nothing.

Chris Brown is NINETEEN. What were any of you doing at 19? What were you expected to do at 19? Give the kid time to grow, refine his act and find out what he loves doing most (besides Rihanna ).

Justin had the time to focus and do what he wanted and now, despite what the org says, he's the biggest male solo star today. THAT'S A FACT WHETHER DANCE OR ANYONE ELSE ON HERE LIKES IT OR NOT. DEAL WITH IT.

It's funny how so many orgers in here are ill informed as well :

Justin writes his own music and HAS since the N*Sync days.

He plays guitar and piano fluently, none of this "omg he follows his backup players!" WATCH, actually WATCH some performances of his before you go judging him on that one youtube clip from 6 years ago.

Futuresex/Lovesounds was fucking HUGE as an album and had SEVEN successful singles. That's basically unheard of today. Critics praised it too and they were never easy on N*Sync or even JT's first album.

The only bad thing about JT is that goddamn ego (tho the bigger star he becomes, the more it becomes justified unfortunately) and his horrible facial hair.

I don't care for Ne-Yo or Thicke that much though both have done well in the past. So Sick and When I Get You Alone are very good solid songs. They're far from my favourite but I feel no need to insult them because of that like other stupid orgers here.

Usher - well, I hate his attitude. Ego. But he does have a good singing voice and Yeah! was a fantastic song back in the day and still sounds good in clubs today. He's good. James Brown liked him enough to call him the Godson Of Soul. Hear that thud? It's all the orgers who posted in here falling out of their chairs at the same time. "James Brown, you say? Well...well...[insert homophobic name, comment, hint here then proceed to say "shit hop", "producers" and "timberfake" and hope it sounds coherent]!"

Anxiety said:

CoolTarik1 said:

I like this post

purplesweat said:

and his nose looks like a penis

FuNkeNsteiN said:

The saddest part is that's exactly the reason they have fans

This thread

CoolTarik1 said:

We have a winner here. Don't forget the late gerald levert who could still outsang usher, chris brown, justin, ne-yo all put together from
heaven.

purplesweat said:

That's the problem. People like chris brown are given contracts when they are
8 years old and are made stars without any kind of pedigree. And people like justin are given the opportunity to do movie roles because of his popularity over actors who have perfected their craft for a long time. As far as the org
not having a concept of what a developing artist is, it sounds like it's you who don't. Let me school you. Brian McKnight for instance had a record deal a few years or so before his debut album in 1992 but instead of the record company pushing him to be a pawn for teddy riley, babyface, etc. his record
company let him develop his skills as a songwriter, musician, and producer before he even got into the game. That is what you call artist development.
The music industry today is so eager to get the next hot young artist out on the market to make dance videos and market bullshit ringtones that there is no originality or diversity. Yeah i said it. You have a right to like justin, chris, ne-yo or any of these artists you choose but don't try to battle the orgers on here who don't care for that shit. You can't win. As far as james brown given a little credit to usher please. It's because of his dance moves obviously. He also gave MC Hammer credit as being the entertainer of his time.
So what? It doesn't mean a hill of shit,giggles, and grins to me. And if you think it took prince 5 years into his career to have a hit album, then you are sadly mistaken. You are probably one of the ones who think prince didn't have a hit album before 1999 or purple rain. And you are trying to b.s the people with n'stink. There is a reason why justin went solo. That n'stink shit was going nowhere fast. I saw a piece of them performing on tv before and it was the typical boy band shit. I would much rather paint dry. Now if you wanna talk about creditable artists of this generation. Talk about chrissette michele, alicia keys, rashaan patterson, musiq, mint condition, jill scott and you actually may be on to something here.

phunkdaddy said:

VERY WELL SAID! Thank you!

Some people need to speak for themselves and not for people on the org

People have their own taste in music on what is good and what is not(in their terms). That dont mean other people DONT know what a developing artist is. That term can be used in different types of music like classical, jazz, opera, country,latin, the list goes on. That dont mean they dont know anything about music PERIOD!

I have listened to many of the artist here Im jsut not that into them like others are here( If you only like one song by the artist, that dont mean the artist is bad you just are not that into them, EVERYONE has their reasons why they like or dont like that particular artist)

Sorry for my jibberish
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We have too many Micheal Jackson impersonators. We have Usher, Ne-Yo and Chris Brown. I can't tell you how many times I seen Usher and Ne-Yo do MJ moves on stage. Especially Ne-Yo and it makes me sick to watch. It just that these guys imparticular need to find their own identity in what they do on stage.

Here with go with this tired excuse again. It was a total different arguement by the previous generation. And it wasn't our parents downing our music, it was their parents (our grandparents) downing their music.

Their parents complaints were not the same as ours whatsoever. Their parents never complained that the new music was being made without the use of instruments. Their complaint was the fast rhythm of the new music when the rock and roll era began. They called that fast rhythm "the devil's music" and also "black music". They had racial reasons for their dislike for rock and roll and also crazy complaints that the devil was behind it. Has my generation made those type of complaints about today's music? Hell no. I have complained that the younger generation has taken that fast "devil rhythm" as the old crazy folks would say, or "black rhythm" out of the music and gone back to the days when everything was slow and dull. If the profanity wasn't in today's music, the same generation that complained about roll and roll in it's early days wouldn't even have a complaint (rhythmwise) because today's music is just as slow as their music, if not slower, and that "devil rhythm" that was supposedly going to corrupt people, is completely gone. Why do you think I like to insult shit hop by saying things like it is just as slow as Lawrence Welk? It's to show these folks that they are going backwards into time instead of forwards and erasing every bit of musical progress that my parents made. That older racist generation would be complaining because black artists are making today's music but that "black" rhythm that they hated is gone.

That arguement that "our parents said the same thing" is just a lot of people's excuse because they refuse to admit or even accept that today's music actually is a bunch of nothing bullshit.
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purplesweat said:

The fact that you refer to a song that was made four years ago as "back in the day" underscores your lack of cotext in grasping the context of this discussion. When you're 17, 18 years old something eight years from now seems like a lifetime to you.
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vainandy said:

But it isn't though. And for the umpteenth time I already explained to you that music exists outside the radio and the mainstream. Maybe for the most part popular music today is wack. But there are artists out there that are making the kind of music you like. You just won't open your ears to it. You'd rather depend on the radio to offer your options.

Rinluv said:

CHUUCH.

The reason people complained about artists from back in the day was they were too wild and crazy, this generation complains about today's artists because they're boring.

And also for the millionth time, it's damn rediculous to have to search all over the place for good music. We didn't have to search for it back in the day. It was on the radio. It should still be on the radio or at least some radio station. I don't have the time or the money to search out the music. And even if I did, as I said before, it's damn rediculous to have to search just because some damn monopolized labels and radio stations won't let styles change.

Also, what's the use of music being good if it's not in the mainstream. I like to go out and party. If it's not in the mainstream, that means it's not going to be played in clubs either. Hell, I don't want to sit home and listen to music alone or with a very few people (which I've already slept with) that have the good sense to like the music I like. Hell, I constantly want different sex partners. I'm a whore, I like to go out and get laid but I like to be entertained while I'm out whoring, rather than just going for the sake of sex alone. If mainstream music were still good, I would still have had a good time (rather than a wasted evening) even if I didn't get lucky that night.
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cheeseburger said:

Because they can't spell and insist on abusing the English language.

vainandy said:

Andy, I love you.

Thank you. People act is if everyone my age is straight and has a wife at home. "Just go out and find some underground music and you and her can sit at home, listen to it, and enjoy it." Hell naw! I want to be out partying and shakin' ass somewhere and lookin' for something that a wife wouldn't have.

vainandy said:

That's so true. Good shit shouldn't have to be searched. That's one of the reasons the internet is here. Now that that's around, the music industry has turned into some lazy fucks that rather create a clone out of an artist rather than build the artist to be their own artist or every 100 guys from the hood be turned into some gangsta rapper or an R&B artist with "thug" mentalities. Get the fuck out of here.