SCNDLS said:

People who have nothing better to do with there lives care more about that stupid racist rhyme than people who have more important stuff to do.
I think its stupid that anyone thinks it should be the end all of her career and livelihood.
The idea is ludicrous. Apparently her band members and the people organizing this birthday party think its a ridiculous idea too.
So to keep bringing it up is pointless.

horatio said:

Funny how you didn't address anything I said in this post in response to your nonsensical comment, but mmmmkay, whatever.

SCNDLS said:

i thought i did

uPtoWnNY said:

I second that. Everybody is held accountable for their actions at some point in their life and now Amy is being held for hers. I can't feel sorry for someone who is suffering from something that was totally preventable. If your going to embrace your demons like she has done, then they will take control and ruin your life. I don't feel sorry for any addict, because everybody has the gift of will power and self preservation, some people just choose not to use them. Why should I be sad for someone who is in love with being an addict despite the risks? Maybe now, she'll be smart enough to put the crack pipe down so she can breath, if she is even truly smart at all.

estelle81 said:

It's no different than some pro athlete who ruins his career with drugs. I mean, you work hard, beat the odds, become famous and are able to do something 99% of the population can't do(whether it's pro sports, music or acting). Then you go ahead and piss away your special talent with negative behavior. Go ahead, I could care less. And like Blaque said, enough with the damn hand-holding. At some point, you have to WAKE THE F-CK UP, and get your sh!t together before it's too late.

estelle81 said:

but pretty much anything except old age is preventable. People eat bad & get heart disease or cancer. Drink too much, smoke too much, eventually it catches up with you. Alzheimer's, cirhossis, diabetes... The only difference is she did it faster than most people. Yes she's responsible, we all are, but I can't help but feel bad for sick people, young or old.

Mostly, though, I feel sad for people who continue to destroy themselves one way or another. I don't feel sorry for her because she's having consequences, I feel sorry for her because she, like most people, is confused and foolish!
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horatio said:

Just one more thing "poor little Amy" should be absolved of, eh? To hell with personal responsibility. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Clearly some of you do not understand the power of addiction. It's not as simple as exerting willpower and taking responsibility. Addiction is an illness, both psychological and physical.

Of course, she is the only one who can pull herself out of it. But 24 is a young age, and I don't think she has developed the tools to deal with such a serious problem.

Not that I'm giving her excuses or feeling sorry for her. Addiction is a reality that many, many suffer with every single day, whether sober or not. They have to find a very clear reason in themselves to come clean, and obviously she doesn't have a good enough reason to change yet.

BlaqueKnight said:

Just curious.....do you ever live a care-free day? And if you do, how does that make you feel???

No offense meant....

she has no emphysema:

http://edition.cnn.com/20...index.html

Fuck Amy.

No seriously.

I was a HUGE fan last year and I still consider Love Is A Losing Game a modern classic.

But for crying out loud, I don't need her father to make a statement saying "Guess what...AMYS SICK! O NOEZ!" to realise...the woman's going to die.

EVERYONE involved with her deserves to be shot for their ignorant behaviour.

SHE deserves to be thrown into rehab/hospital/jail for public drug use, for glamourising drug addiction and for her own good.

Her parents deserve lessons in "How to notice when your daughter may be about to slide off the fucking rails!"

Pete Doherty should already BE in jail for years with the amount of public drugs he's done. Why do they CONTINUE to get away with this crap?! I don't give a fuck if they're "celebrities" - THEY'RE DRUG ADDICTS!!!

Any minders, assistants, crew deserve to lose their jobs for being yes people. I'm serious, being a yes person needs to become illegal. Imagine how many lives could be saved if people weren't so fucking afraid of their bosses? (which comes back to Wino and her disregard for that unimportant thing called her life).

Her husband, well at least SOMEONE saw the sense and chucked his stupid ass in prison.

And now the hospital she just went to for LETTING HER GO. W.T.F? I don't give a fuck if she's an adult who has to make her own decisions - CLEARLY SHE'S NOT GOING TO! The only decisions she's making is whether to smoke crack or shoot up! Isn't it OBVIOUS by now?

I find it HILARIOUS that its NEWS that she goes to hospital for a fucking fainting spell. Gee, I wonder what brought that on? The woman could go to the hospital any day of the week and they'd find something wrong.

Basically, and this is harsh, but I wouldn't be shocked if she died. I really wouldn't. It just takes one accidental overdose and I'm actually shocked it HASN'T happened yet.

I think, and this is harsh too, it'd almost be a good thing if she died. Obviously not for her family but not only would she be at rest, it'd get the world to sit up and take notice.

Police and doctors would (HOPEFULLY) realise they NEED to be way more forceful with celebrities and drug use. They've become fantastic with celebs and drinking, WHY not drugs? If it saves lives, it shouldn't matter if a celeb sues or chucks a hissy fit. AT LEAST THEY'RE ALIVE!

uPtoWnNY said:

I couldn't have said it better myself

Why is it that when somebody tries to explain addict behavior, immediately it's taken as excusing the behavior? This is what I don't get. Blaqueknight, as willing as you are to try and educate others here on topics you feel you're educated on, I gotta tell you - sometimes, it doesn't feel like you're willing to turn the tables and hear what others are trying to say. Maybe that's not the case, but that's how it comes across sometimes.

Everybody knows crack is a dangerous drug. So, do you honestly think somebody in their right state of mind would take to it knowing that it's going to wreck their life? You know going into it that there's a high chance of addiction, that you could die, that you will lose everything you have (money, possessions, self-respect, etc.), but you still do it. That's not rational behavior. Yes, there absolutely comes a point in time where you have to take control of the situation, but anyone who's seen pictures of Amy in public lately - I've stopped paying attention - would know that these are not the actions of somebody know knows or even cares what they're doing.

You call it flaunting the addiction; I call it completely succumbing to it. I'm not playing semantics. I'm telling you how it is. I'm not an addiction specialist, but I've worked within the addiction community for a dozen years now, and I can tell you that some really good people do some very bad things while in the throes of addiction. People you thought would never do anything crass, objectionable or hurtful do nasty things, all in the name of self-hatred. Cocaine is a hell of a drug, and when you hate yourself enough to subject yourself to it knowing that you're going to die, it's going to help you manifest that self-hatred in ways you never thought possible even when (and if) you were capable of rational thought. I'd be willing to bet that there's some undiagnosed mental illness with Amy as well. I could very well be wrong, but mental illness and drug addiction go hand-in-hand.

And one more time - I'm telling what I know. Explaining. That's not excusing.

Seems her dad was exaggerating her medical condition, which is unfortunate. Family members are often the biggest enablers, and perhaps she needs to distance herself from family and "friends" so she can wake up and get her addiction under control.

For my own sanity, I should just ditch this thread. It feels like some are this close to wishing death on her, just because they don't like her.

Thank you, Rip!

pictured yesterday after her release from the London hospital:



(http://www.dailymail.co.u...again.html

abierman said:

horatio said:

for real!

abierman said:

i like the face she is making.

another strike for the news/media today.

Amy Winehouse

PatrickS77 said:

I can see from your response that you obviously have very little life experience. All I have to say is...wait...you will encounter suffering like this at some point in your life (nearly everyone does) and I hope that the people around you don't react like you have reacted here.
Try a little bit of empathy...it goes a long way.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Exactly.

applekisses said:

What does that have to do with (supposed lack of) life experience??

Again, just read what I have written! I DO NOT HAVE SYMPATHY FOR PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEERILY RISK THEIR GOOD HEALTH! I do have sympathy though for people like you, who have to suffer due to other peoples irresponsible decisions! If that makes me an asshole, then I gladly take that mantle!

abierman said:

Seriously, why should anyone feel sorry for that disgusting, incorrigible, stupid bitch!?

abierman said:

applekisses said:

im sorry to hear that about your sister

PatrickS77 said:[quote]

applekisses said:

Would you say the same about my sister? Would you say the same about my mother? If you do, yes, you are an asshole.
I say that you have little life experience because it seems you haven't had someone you love go through something like this - otherwise you may have a different perspective and might be a little more empathetic.

Flowerz said:

Thank you, dear.

applekisses said:

Yes, sometimes a person needs tough love, or they might need to suffer consequences, or they might need to take responsibility. But that doesn't mean that we have to just dismiss them like a piece of garbage. They are still human beings with feelings. Someone loves them and that won't change just because they are over the edge with their problems.

horatio said:

Smoke enough of it and you'll get emphysema.

applekisses said:

Hmm, how do you know?? This is the way I feel about people like that! I can't help it if it offends you!


There is no way of winning this, huh!? Well, I don't know your sister, but if your sister behaved the same way like that Winehouse then yeah, I guess I'd say yes! Sorry, it was you who asked! I'm sorry for your loss, but I guess your sister (and mother) brought in on herself and I don't have that much sympathy for that!

I'm not an asshole, I just have an opinion you don't like!

PatrickS77 said:

Your opinion is what makes me think that, sorry, that's just the way it is. Keep going and everyone else will see it too.

And when my mother started smoking these are the types of ads that were on television:


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