This whole discussion is funny as hell. IMHO Hip-hop is probably THEE most talentless music of all time. ALL TIME.

Cinnie said:

Thats the way to do it.



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THANK YOU !!!!!

Graycap23 said:

CosmicDancer said:

Cinnie said:

He is mostly gimmicks though, i mean tracks like "Lollipop" and "Fireman" songs with Tpain, even his song with Robin Thicke, plus his track with Mya on her unreleased album (well in this country) it just laid there, and he has the same rap on the new cassie single which is just more of the same in his flow, he's still rapping like "soldier", it doesnt seem to be going anywhere. Oh please dont bring up Jay Z because he is too far gone at this point.

soulja boy makes me feel young again.

chewwsey said:

That's funny. Soulja Boy makes me feel like a very old and very, very, very, very, very wise man.

lastdecember said:

Iced tea. . . the house wine of the South.

How many f-bombs and n-words can you get in one sentence? Both of them are as bad as each other. LMAO

MAN, F ALL THAT BS!!! SOLJA BOY MAKES STUFF 4 MII GENERATION 2 DANCE 2, PERIOD DOT DOT DOT. IT'S NOT LYK THA DUDE JUS MADE SUM SUPA GARBEAGE S*** LYK 50CENT!!! DAT DUDE IS SUPA GARBAGE!!!! LYK SOLJA BOY SAID THA GAME HAS CHANGED, & HIS KIND OF "RAP" IS WAT MII GENERATION IS JAMIN 2. EYE ADMIT IF ICE-T DID COME OUT WITH ANOTHER ALBUM IT WUD SELL GREAT, BUT IT'S JUS THE SIGN OF THA TIMES. EYE WUDNT EVEN COUNT SOLJA BOY'S STUFF AS HIP-HOP ANYWAY!!!!

But wat Solja Boy was sayin was sum funny s***!! "4father of mii nuts!!!"
eye say ya'll loosen up sum, & stop bein so up tite!!! this stuff is jus for fun!!!
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this is some funny ass shit. ice-t sounds like a crabby old man or an orger.he knows he likes that song

they both sound extremely uneducated doin this

Bishop31 said:

Um, I think these guys would say otherwise about that:

Christopher said:

NWF said:

If any orgers reply with ignorance to THIS post, well then they are just not worth responding to.

Gnarles fuckin' Barkley?

all the others I agree.....

Cinnie said:

U can find exceptions 2 ANY rule. My comment still stand.

Lammastide said:

maannnn turn into superman! I understand what you mean though, I just like the dancing for the song. but Ice t had like one or two good records. why is he crying?

Graycap23 said:

Exceptions? There's certainly a lot more talent where that came from.

Seems like you would like cite the worst of the genre to represent it.

btw:
Rakim > all rock lyricists.

Cinnie said:

See, now you're just trying to start shit. He is a great lyricist, but why even compare two different genres?

RipHer2Shreds said:

Just to point out that certain talent would be transferrable to other genres and kick their ass at it?

And vice versa, Prince's attempts at rap have been dire, because he lacks certain ingredients. Obviously Graycap is talking out of his ass though.

Cinnie said:

Well, it's not like Ice-T's each and every attempt at producing a 3-6 minute musical piece produced pure sonic gold, but I don't see a problem criticizing a 17-year-old's output. The kid is not beyond the harshest criticism like he is trying to imply himself he would be. If Ice-T chooses to use the expression "eat a dick" that's his choice, for 17-year-olds are using such language all the time, so I don't see a real problem there.

But in any case, he could have planned out what to actually say in his response video beforehand, and not just ramble on for minutes as well.

Cinnie said:

I understand that u are a RAP apologist. It's all good.

Has anyone seen this?

From Kanye West's blog...

I AIN'T GOT NOTHING AGAINST ICE T OR NOBODY FOR THAT MATTER BUT I GOTTA RIDE WITH SOULJA BOY..
06.21.2008

Soulja boy is fresh ass hell and is actually the true meaning of what hip hop is sposed to be. He came from the hood, made his own beats, made up a new saying, new sound and a new dance with one song. He had all of America rapping this summer. If that ain't Hip Hop then what is? A bunch of wannabe keep it real rappers that ain't even relevant, recycling samples trying to act like it's 96 again and all they do is hate on new shit? Niggas always talk about the golden age but for a 13 year old kid, this is the golden age!!! That song was so dope cause everything he said had a hidden meaning... that's Nas level shit... he just put it over some steel drums which is also some Nas shit if you had the 2nd album cassette with the bonus track "Silent Murder" on it. In closing... new niggas get ya money$$$$$ Keep this shit fresh and original.... ain't no fuckin' rules to this shit and that's what real hip hop is to me.

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Is he being for real? He can't be. He's got to be kidding. Right? Please tell me he's joking.

Graycap23 said:

I shouldn't have to defend anything, but your statement was outlandish.

I'ma leave it at that.
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Cinnie said:

Cinnie,
If u dig rap it's all good. It stands on it's own, u don't have 2 defend it.
I think as it relates 2 talent, stacked against all other forms of music, it is at the BOTTOM of the talent pool. Just one man's opinion.

Graycap23 said:

So there aren't many guitar players visible in rap. Get over it.

There are other talents you are overlooking.

I know you like jazz but I don't insinuate that you bump John Tesh or that everything is snooze jazz, but that's the kind of generalizations I hear about on rap - the worst of the worst. You're overlooking a lot of talent by making that statement.

Cinnie said:

Nothing 2 get over.
4 the record, I don't care 4 jazz but at least those cats are muscially creative. I can't say that 4 rap.

NWF said:

I would like to add....



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