Kind of makes you wonder:

bboy87 said:

DAMN, I HAVE TO TALK TO MY AUNT. SHE USED TO BABY SIT HER KIDS. THAT COULD EXPLAIN WHY HER CRAZY ASS SON BURNED DOWN HER HOUSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. IN- BREEDING MAKES YOU CRAZY

Dance said:

You think her kids had something to do with it?

debbiedean2 said:

Yeah, I don't see the humor in this, but that fire did come to mind.

Harlepolis said:

Probably the eldest one that burnt Aretha's former home.

Harlepolis said:

There's a long list of people to consider there...

Hell, it could have been someone who just really liked one of her records and may have went to her daddy's church. They heard the whispers and was like,"OH...HAIL NAWL," and hopped in the caddy with a pistol under the seat saying,"L_rd, I know you understand." :click:

Dance said:

I'm trying to be serious, man

Clarence, Sr. was a playa tho. He cheated on Aretha's mother with a lot of women, she filed for divorce from him and moved to Boston. I heard Clarence, Sr. was also fucking Mahalia Jackson and Clara Ward too.

Oh and he was known as Rev. C.L. Franklin.

And apparently one of the girls he cheated Barbara Siggers with was a teenage girl who had one of his kids.

Damn:

On Sunday June 10, 1979, Reverend Franklin was watching television in the second floor bedroom of his home at 7415 La Salle Blvd, on Detroit's near West Side. A group of men broke into his home with the intention of stealing antique windows. Whatever. Franklin caught them off guard and shot at them with his own gun. They in return shot him twice and fled. There was over $30,000 worth of cash and checks in the bedroom closet (?!) that those fools missed.

He was hit in the right knee, and the groin. Medics took him to Henry Ford Hospital where he was in critical condition. Aretha Franklin was performing at the Aladdin Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. She rushed home when she got the news about her father, but he never fully regained consciousness again.

Five people were eventually charged for his shooting. They received sentences ranging from probation for two of them, to a 25-50 year sentence for one of two defendants who pleaded guilty to assault with intent to murder. A 6th was granted immunity to snitch.

Harlepolis said:

I am serious. You know there are some people who think these singers are family. There are some people right now that would beat your ass if you called Luther gay.

"EY BRUH, Loofa wun't ghey...he was jess sensitive...n he moisturized...BITCH!"

The church has always been filled with dysfunctional people,,,,,just look @ Marvin's father.

Harlepolis said:

Marvin's dad was the worst: how you gonna be a Pentecostal preacher but then not practice what you preach as a drag queen alcoholic child abuser?

Dance said:

I'm a living example of that

Harlepolis said:

Yeah and people love LUFFA HARD!!!!

Someone said to me once that "in those days" when the mother was gone, the daughters were, to try to put this nicely, "property" of their fathers. I mean I just can't buy that or rather I don't want to believe it was this common and/or accepted thing. Then again though, you have women of that era alive today that will actually sit in their children's face or granbabies face and tell them they're supposed to stay with a man even if he beats the mess out of them, which is DEFINITELY a product of those times rather than random effed up families.

Timmy84 said:

Whoa, is that some kind of gay joke?

Look, just cause the man liked his glitter and lamé and base...doesn't mean he was playing slap n tickle with Freddie Jackson, Teddy P, and Peabo!

Timmy84 said:

InsatiableCream said:

"You were a great bounty hunter Solo, but now you're bantha fodder, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho!"

Dance said:

Some of them even liked it, you kidding?

I remember when my big momma would tell me that some women back in the day would actually brag about their "black eyes"

Look what daddy did to me?

As for the "property" shit,,,if I heard it once, I heard a 1000 times, child. Thats a dysfunctional way of keeping their female children attached

I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation
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Dance said:

Not Peabo!

And Freddie..... if only Youtube had that one clip from the 1989 American Music Awards

bboy87 said:

Maaaan, just tell us what happend?

Harlepolis said:

That shit didn't go down in my fam. My grandma had 5 brothers and she was known to whoop a nucca's ass or two

We have alot of shit going on in the black community

Harlepolis said:

He won for Favorite R&B song and he did that "both hands on the side of the face" thing that Mac Culkin did in Home Alone....but homeboy's fingers had that "curl" at the end

sayin "Oooooo Omigawd....omigawd"

Harlepolis said:

It's okay, Bob Ross is here. Let's all roll up paint some happy little trees.



and enjoy the vocal stylings of Queen Retha :cues up Baby baby sweeeet baby:

Dance said:

bboy87 said:

not the "curl".

Hooooow u doooin'

That timid shit didn't run in my family either. I remember seeing momma knocking the fuck outta some West Indian guy in the middle of the street for calling her a derogatory word.

I was 5 but I remember the shit like it was yesterday. She's 5'5 and he's over 6 feet, but the dame fucked him up so bad,,,,he had to move his van to another territory where they couldn't recognise his ass true story. She hates it when I bring up that story to her.
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Harlepolis said:

I remember when I was like 4 or 5 and my cousin/godsister was living with us and some kid pulled a knife on my older brother. This heffa got in her car, found him, ran over his bike(he had left it in the middle of the street), and almost ran into his house to beat him AND his brother down

I got some stories If one family member was in trouble, EVERYBODY was there to help

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bboy87 said:

not the "curl".

Hooooow u doooin'

Freddie had Johnny Gill sayin "now hold up..."

bboy87 said:

Was THIS your grams?