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Reply #30 posted 06/16/08 1:35am

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I think that's what is so confusing to me because it is hyped up as a Madonna movie.. I was expecting it to be like Purple Rain or some shit.

Yeah, there are actually about three other characters who spend a lot more time on screen than she does, and they do a lot more too. Madonna's character is kind of a blank canvas who doesn't really go on any dramatic journey. It's really Rosanna Arquette's movie, but you can understand why they sold it as a Madonna flick. She was new and hot. It was inevitable, but it was also misleading.



yeah, plus the fact that Rosanna Arquette is about as fun to watch as paint dry, so they had to sell it somehow.
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Reply #31 posted 06/16/08 6:11am

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midnightmover said:


Yeah, there are actually about three other characters who spend a lot more time on screen than she does, and they do a lot more too. Madonna's character is kind of a blank canvas who doesn't really go on any dramatic journey. It's really Rosanna Arquette's movie, but you can understand why they sold it as a Madonna flick. She was new and hot. It was inevitable, but it was also misleading.



yeah, plus the fact that Rosanna Arquette is about as fun to watch as paint dry, so they had to sell it somehow.

There's no need to be such a defensive fanbot. Rosanna Arquette's character carries the narrative. She goes through a journey and a transformation. Madonna's doesn't. She also spends nearly twice as much time on screen as Madge. Those are facts.

As for Arquette not being "fun to watch", I'd take that comment seriously if I thought it was an unbiased one, but I don't think it is. Like I said, Madonna's character really doesn't have to do much at all. She's just a blank canvas really. She has to be cool, aloof and a bit flirty. Hardly a stretch for the Madonna of 1984.

It's another good example of how lucky she has been in her career. The character is so close to herself that it's remarkable. You couldn't plan that. It just happened that this film was being made at the perfect time for Madge. Evita was another example of that. Both career defining moments that seemed almost sent from heaven for her. Anyway, love the film. I give props to the writers, director, cast and everyone involved.
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Reply #32 posted 06/16/08 5:33pm

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Xcalibre said:




yeah, plus the fact that Rosanna Arquette is about as fun to watch as paint dry, so they had to sell it somehow.

There's no need to be such a defensive fanbot. Rosanna Arquette's character carries the narrative. She goes through a journey and a transformation. Madonna's doesn't. She also spends nearly twice as much time on screen as Madge. Those are facts.

As for Arquette not being "fun to watch", I'd take that comment seriously if I thought it was an unbiased one, but I don't think it is. Like I said, Madonna's character really doesn't have to do much at all. She's just a blank canvas really. She has to be cool, aloof and a bit flirty. Hardly a stretch for the Madonna of 1984.

It's another good example of how lucky she has been in her career. The character is so close to herself that it's remarkable. You couldn't plan that. It just happened that this film was being made at the perfect time for Madge. Evita was another example of that. Both career defining moments that seemed almost sent from heaven for her. Anyway, love the film. I give props to the writers, director, cast and everyone involved.


My comment about Arquette is unbiased. I'll be the first to criticize Madonna when I feel there's just cause. Rosanna Arquette, especially in that movie, is dull as dishwater. And completely out of her element.
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Reply #33 posted 06/17/08 5:43am

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midnightmover said:


There's no need to be such a defensive fanbot. Rosanna Arquette's character carries the narrative. She goes through a journey and a transformation. Madonna's doesn't. She also spends nearly twice as much time on screen as Madge. Those are facts.

As for Arquette not being "fun to watch", I'd take that comment seriously if I thought it was an unbiased one, but I don't think it is. Like I said, Madonna's character really doesn't have to do much at all. She's just a blank canvas really. She has to be cool, aloof and a bit flirty. Hardly a stretch for the Madonna of 1984.

It's another good example of how lucky she has been in her career. The character is so close to herself that it's remarkable. You couldn't plan that. It just happened that this film was being made at the perfect time for Madge. Evita was another example of that. Both career defining moments that seemed almost sent from heaven for her. Anyway, love the film. I give props to the writers, director, cast and everyone involved.


My comment about Arquette is unbiased. I'll be the first to criticize Madonna when I feel there's just cause. Rosanna Arquette, especially in that movie, is dull as dishwater. And completely out of her element.

You're the first and only person I've ever heard say that. I don't think anyone in this film is out of their element. I think the casting is perfect. Arquette is generally a poor actress, but that role required a certain goofy charm and she had that.
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Reply #34 posted 06/17/08 6:17am

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I think Rosanna Arquette was great in the film

And so was Madonna

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Reply #35 posted 06/20/08 6:47am

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SoulAlive said:

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i never saw who's that girl....


You must see it! It's hilarious.I think it's Madonna's best movie.


It's a fun, very eighties comedy. Even more goofy than "Desperately Seeking Susan". I think it was classifed as a screwball comedy (which was a genre popular in...what, the 1940's?). Very absurd storyline but Madonna has a lot of fun in it. It's a renter for sure. Probably not easy to find the DVD in stores as it only a came out maybe last year or so and most places don't ordered back titles that often.

If you know stores that still rent videos, they might carry it. Better yet, check to see if there are video stores that are dumbing their VHS stock. There might still be some. I recently found a Hollywood Video in Ann Arbor with one of the largest selection in the city (and maybe one of the largest country for a brick and mortar....they really carry some rarer titles on DVD including TV DVDs) and they have a ton of videos they are getting rid of (sadly, I think a lot of good stuff is gone). I recently broke down and bought a copy of "The Virgin Tour" (haven't watched it yet, though).
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Reply #36 posted 06/20/08 7:00am

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You must see it! It's hilarious.I think it's Madonna's best movie.


It's a fun, very eighties comedy. Even more goofy than "Desperately Seeking Susan". I think it was classifed as a screwball comedy (which was a genre popular in...what, the 1940's?). Very absurd storyline but Madonna has a lot of fun in it. It's a renter for sure. Probably not easy to find the DVD in stores as it only a came out maybe last year or so and most places don't ordered back titles that often.

If you know stores that still rent videos, they might carry it. Better yet, check to see if there are video stores that are dumbing their VHS stock. There might still be some. I recently found a Hollywood Video in Ann Arbor with one of the largest selection in the city (and maybe one of the largest country for a brick and mortar....they really carry some rarer titles on DVD including TV DVDs) and they have a ton of videos they are getting rid of (sadly, I think a lot of good stuff is gone). I recently broke down and bought a copy of "The Virgin Tour" (haven't watched it yet, though).



It finally was released on DVD several years ago.I love this movie lol It's a silly 80s screwball comedy.Like Vinny said,it's a dumb storyline but there are so many funny scenes in it.Madonna's character is CRAZY! She also looks like she had alot of fun filming this.The movie (and the soundtrack) also contains four Madonna songs,the best ones being "Causing A Commotion" and the haunting ballad "The Look Of Love".
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Reply #37 posted 06/21/08 8:36am

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i cant even lie, i grew up on WHOS THAT GIRL. it was my sisters favorite movie back then. its funny as hell
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Reply #38 posted 06/21/08 2:02pm

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DSS is the only truly good Madonna movie.

For shits and giggles, try "Body of Evidence" or "Swept Away." The others are straight up unwatchable. Although her acting in that piece of shit "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done...
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Reply #39 posted 06/21/08 2:10pm

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DSS is the only truly good Madonna movie.

For shits and giggles, try "Body of Evidence" or "Swept Away." The others are straight up unwatchable. Although her acting in that piece of shit "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done...

My God, I saw about four minutes (maybe three minutes) of "Swept Away". I couldn't make it any further. It was SOOOOO bad. It made "Graffiti Bridge" look like "Citizen Kane". If you'd given the cameras to a bunch of random amateurs on the street you would've gotten something better than that. Shocking, even by Madge standards.
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Reply #40 posted 06/21/08 2:29pm

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midnightmover said:

badujunkie said:

DSS is the only truly good Madonna movie.

For shits and giggles, try "Body of Evidence" or "Swept Away." The others are straight up unwatchable. Although her acting in that piece of shit "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done...

My God, I saw about four minutes (maybe three minutes) of "Swept Away". I couldn't make it any further. It was SOOOOO bad. It made "Graffiti Bridge" look like "Citizen Kane". If you'd given the cameras to a bunch of random amateurs on the street you would've gotten something better than that. Shocking, even by Madge standards.


Really? I think it's a bad movie, but it's watchable. Madonna's acting isn't horrid all the way through; the scenery is beautiful; i like the music; the supporting cast is efficient, and there are a couple funny / touching moments. For a Madonna movie, can't ask for much more...
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Reply #41 posted 06/21/08 2:33pm

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SoulAlive said:

VinnyM27 said:



It's a fun, very eighties comedy. Even more goofy than "Desperately Seeking Susan". I think it was classifed as a screwball comedy (which was a genre popular in...what, the 1940's?). Very absurd storyline but Madonna has a lot of fun in it. It's a renter for sure. Probably not easy to find the DVD in stores as it only a came out maybe last year or so and most places don't ordered back titles that often.

If you know stores that still rent videos, they might carry it. Better yet, check to see if there are video stores that are dumbing their VHS stock. There might still be some. I recently found a Hollywood Video in Ann Arbor with one of the largest selection in the city (and maybe one of the largest country for a brick and mortar....they really carry some rarer titles on DVD including TV DVDs) and they have a ton of videos they are getting rid of (sadly, I think a lot of good stuff is gone). I recently broke down and bought a copy of "The Virgin Tour" (haven't watched it yet, though).



It finally was released on DVD several years ago.I love this movie lol It's a silly 80s screwball comedy.Like Vinny said,it's a dumb storyline but there are so many funny scenes in it.Madonna's character is CRAZY! She also looks like she had alot of fun filming this.The movie (and the soundtrack) also contains four Madonna songs,the best ones being "Causing A Commotion" and the haunting ballad "The Look Of Love".


It wasn't until I heard all the praise for "The Look Of Love" that I really started to apperciate it it. The title track is maybe my favorite Madonna track ever but "Causin A Commotion" is a better dance track while "Can't Stop" is total Madonna filler.
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Reply #42 posted 06/21/08 2:36pm

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badujunkie said:

DSS is the only truly good Madonna movie.

For shits and giggles, try "Body of Evidence" or "Swept Away." The others are straight up unwatchable. Although her acting in that piece of shit "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done...


I recently saw "Dangerous Game" for a dollar at Hollywood...I should have probably bought it. People forget the great enesmble movie "A League Of Our Own". She is easily the fourth lead (the only reason she appears on the cover and not Lori Perry is because of her name, though).
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Reply #43 posted 06/21/08 3:32pm

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badujunkie said:

DSS is the only truly good Madonna movie.

For shits and giggles, try "Body of Evidence" or "Swept Away." The others are straight up unwatchable. Although her acting in that piece of shit "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done...



You really think her acting in "Dangerous Game" is the best she's ever done? barf I bought the DVD several years ago because many fans said it was an underrated film.They said she was really good in it.That movie put me to sleep! It looks cheap and low-budget too.I'd rather watch 'Body Of Evidence'.At least the sex scenes are fun,lol.

The best Madonna movies are 'Who's That Girl' and 'Evita'.She's also good in the films that she doesn't star in (such as 'Dick Tracy' and 'A League Of Their Own').
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Reply #44 posted 06/21/08 3:38pm

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SoulAlive said:




It finally was released on DVD several years ago.I love this movie lol It's a silly 80s screwball comedy.Like Vinny said,it's a dumb storyline but there are so many funny scenes in it.Madonna's character is CRAZY! She also looks like she had alot of fun filming this.The movie (and the soundtrack) also contains four Madonna songs,the best ones being "Causing A Commotion" and the haunting ballad "The Look Of Love".


It wasn't until I heard all the praise for "The Look Of Love" that I really started to apperciate it it. The title track is maybe my favorite Madonna track ever but "Causin A Commotion" is a better dance track while "Can't Stop" is total Madonna filler.


Yeah,"Can't Stop" is shit barf One of the worst Madonna songs of all.The other three tunes are really good."The Look Of Love" could have been a single;imo.A really good,hypnotic ballad.
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Reply #45 posted 06/21/08 3:57pm

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VinnyM27 said:



It wasn't until I heard all the praise for "The Look Of Love" that I really started to apperciate it it. The title track is maybe my favorite Madonna track ever but "Causin A Commotion" is a better dance track while "Can't Stop" is total Madonna filler.


Yeah,"Can't Stop" is shit barf One of the worst Madonna songs of all.The other three tunes are really good."The Look Of Love" could have been a single;imo.A really good,hypnotic ballad.


I like Can't Stop...she should do a medley of Can't Stop/Don't Stop and Please Don't Stop the Music on her tour. razz
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Reply #46 posted 06/21/08 6:28pm

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VinnyM27 said:



It wasn't until I heard all the praise for "The Look Of Love" that I really started to apperciate it it. The title track is maybe my favorite Madonna track ever but "Causin A Commotion" is a better dance track while "Can't Stop" is total Madonna filler.


Yeah,"Can't Stop" is shit barf One of the worst Madonna songs of all.The other three tunes are really good."The Look Of Love" could have been a single;imo.A really good,hypnotic ballad.


I don't think it's shit...It's just kind of there. At this point in pop music, quite a few people were picking up on Madonna's dance pop sound and for her to put out something like this....it's just blah. Now something like "Jimmy, Jimmy" is just in your face bad!
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Reply #47 posted 06/22/08 11:40am

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Desperatley seeking susan is brilliant. Ilove 80's madonna. she is so cool and sexy in this movie. Every teenage girl wanted to be her. it has a great sory too. i could tell u evry line from it as i have seen it so much. love her boots that are sparkly rolled down. HATE her style now. she was the bomb back then but she is so dull now.
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Reply #48 posted 06/23/08 6:15am

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midnightmover said:


My God, I saw about four minutes (maybe three minutes) of "Swept Away". I couldn't make it any further. It was SOOOOO bad. It made "Graffiti Bridge" look like "Citizen Kane". If you'd given the cameras to a bunch of random amateurs on the street you would've gotten something better than that. Shocking, even by Madge standards.


Really? I think it's a bad movie, but it's watchable. Madonna's acting isn't horrid all the way through; the scenery is beautiful; i like the music; the supporting cast is efficient, and there are a couple funny / touching moments. For a Madonna movie, can't ask for much more...

Well, like I said I only saw 3-5 minutes of it. I just could not watch anymore. It was just too amateurish. Speaking of amateurishness, has anyone seen this "film" she directed herself recently?
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Reply #49 posted 06/23/08 6:19am

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Desperatley seeking susan is brilliant. Ilove 80's madonna. she is so cool and sexy in this movie. Every teenage girl wanted to be her. it has a great sory too. i could tell u evry line from it as i have seen it so much. love her boots that are sparkly rolled down. HATE her style now. she was the bomb back then but she is so dull now.

That's pretty much how I feel. In spite of everything, '80s Madonna had it going on. If she'd retired in 1991, I'd probably have warmer feelings toward her, but she's turned into a real embarrassment, not just to herself but to us as a culture that we are still celebrating someone so ridiculous.
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Reply #50 posted 06/24/08 12:12pm

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I love this movie, it's the only Madonna movie I can watch (apart from Evita)
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Reply #51 posted 06/24/08 12:48pm

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I love this movie, it's the only Madonna movie I can watch (apart from Evita)

The Best Madonna movie is a League of Their Own. I beileve Madonna only works in supporting roles in an ensamble cast.
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Reply #52 posted 06/24/08 5:55pm

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It's not as good @ Body of Evidence or Evita.
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