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Reply #270 posted 07/04/08 11:42am

SoulAlive

So,did you get your tickets yet or are you gonna wait til the last minute? Where we gonna meetup at? To hang out before the show? lol
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Reply #271 posted 07/04/08 11:46am

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SoulAlive said:

So,did you get your tickets yet or are you gonna wait til the last minute? Where we gonna meetup at? To hang out before the show? lol


I'm waiting until the last minute. Someone wanted to buy me a ticket as a gift, but I told them not to be a sucker and buy overpriced tickets right now. lol I'll probably be going alone, but yes we should definitely meet up beforehand.
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Reply #272 posted 07/04/08 11:50am

SoulAlive

heartbeatocean said:

SoulAlive said:

So,did you get your tickets yet or are you gonna wait til the last minute? Where we gonna meetup at? To hang out before the show? lol


I'm waiting until the last minute. Someone wanted to buy me a ticket as a gift, but I told them not to be a sucker and buy overpriced tickets right now. lol I'll probably be going alone, but yes we should definitely meet up beforehand.


thumbs up!
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Reply #273 posted 07/05/08 2:50am

graecophilos

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Everyone who doesn't want "Spanish Lesson" performed...

talk to the hand

One day it'll hit you. Maybe the fact that it's the closest thing on "HC" to a traditional Pharrell production is throwing people off. Unlike some of the other tracks, it sounds like something Madonna didn't have to force out of him.

I will be SORELY disappointed if it's not performed.


yeah, Spanish Lesson is typical Pharrell but what sounds like him is Heartbeat. Have you ever listened to Kelis' albums? Protect My Heart, Flashback and stuff?
I think it's similiar. Three chords... it's typical Pharrell and the demo proved the fact Madonna only wrote part of teh lyrics...
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Reply #274 posted 07/05/08 5:18am

CrozzaUK

Latest from MadonnaTribe:

Singer Britney Spears has indeed been asked to shoot a video for Madonna's new tour and it's not going to be a video interlude, but a video used while Madonna is singing on stage.

The video is for the exciting new live version of Human Nature, that as previously revealed by MadonnaTribe it's the third song on the Sticky & Sweet tour setlist.

The video will be directed by the one and only Steven Klein, that as previously reported here, will take care of two brand videos for the show, one for an oldie (this one) and one for a new track off Hard Candy.

The original idea behind Human Nature 2008 was to give out an updated version of the song by showing the artists, mainly troubled young hollywood stars, that are being treated as "bitches" by the world press and media, in a similar way they did with Madonna back in 1992 when she the main target of such media attentions.

But Britney is now the main star of the screen video, and while musically Human Nature 2008 originally contained spoken samples of Gimme More, now the concept has been expanded even more with samples of the track, making it longer and cooler and it can easily be described as a sort Human Nature/Gimme More mash up!

Stay Tuned for More exciting and Exclusive tour news from MadonnaTribe News!


This does actually sound cool
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Reply #275 posted 07/05/08 5:38am

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as long as the song they might perform isn't "Me Against The Music"
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Reply #276 posted 07/05/08 8:53am

SoulAlive

hmmm not sure about the Britney thing,but who knows? It might be interesting.What's funny is that...Justin Timberlake will most likely appear elsewhere in this show,on a video screen too smile
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Reply #277 posted 07/05/08 10:56pm

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graecophilos said:

soul4thought said:

Everyone who doesn't want "Spanish Lesson" performed...

talk to the hand

One day it'll hit you. Maybe the fact that it's the closest thing on "HC" to a traditional Pharrell production is throwing people off. Unlike some of the other tracks, it sounds like something Madonna didn't have to force out of him.

I will be SORELY disappointed if it's not performed.


yeah, Spanish Lesson is typical Pharrell but what sounds like him is Heartbeat. Have you ever listened to Kelis' albums? Protect My Heart, Flashback and stuff?
I think it's similar. Three chords... it's typical Pharrell and the demo proved the fact Madonna only wrote part of teh lyrics...


Yeah, I love Kelis...she's underrated, especially the first two albums.

I just finished listening to both "Protect My Heart" and "Heartbeat" and you're right: The chord progression in both songs is really similar. Good observation. It's the production itself that's really refreshing for me, though. Even the synth (which he uses A LOT) line is a nice change up. It's different but not a radical change for him.

It's usually when he strays too far away from his formula that the results can get really ugly.

"Heartbeat" hits at just a tad left field but this actually benefits him.

"Give It 2 Me" (which I hated the first couple times I heard it...now I like it a lot) is approaching city limits. I can't imagine him giving this song to ANYONE else. You can tell it was custom made for Madonna but it works and works well.

"Incredible", however, is definitely one of those "Madonna forced this to happen" songs and it's one of the worst things he's ever done.

"She's Not Me" is a strange one to me. Sometimes I can't stand it; other times I don't mind it. It has traces of Pharrell's signature sound but something about it doesn't fit, IMO. I can't place my finger on it. I do think, ultimately, it became another one of those "forced" songs. I know one problem: Madonna herself. That vocal should not have gotten past the recording studio.

The most typical Pharell productions are "Spanish Lesson", "Beat Goes On" and "Candy Shop" in that order.
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Reply #278 posted 07/06/08 2:15am

pandaman2105

I wanna put my two cents in...

All this is definitely really exciting to me!!!!! The video details, the songs

I know we're seeing some repetitive stuff here, but are we really gonna just sit there unimpressed or walk out for drinks or the bathroom during those times???
Especially you die-hard folks who got the good seats. If she wants us to jump during "Ray of Light" again are you gonna just be sitting there? Don't you think that she'll notice a little bit and get pissed and maybe screw up her mood for the rest of the show???

We don't really want that do we? I mean I appreciate a lot of those ones being done again, but this also my first show so I'm gonna be pleased either way and I know there's gotta be other people out there who agree with me, right???


The "Human Nature" idea seems cool w/ Britney, but I'm pretty skeptical about the whole thing. I mean Britney, really??? I wouldn't mind the song in its original form with some cool choreography or something.


So based on all the stuff we've been reading, I guess these are the things we could possibly be seeing on the tour

(in no particular order):
Intro/Candy Shop
Beat Goes On
Human Nature
Vogue
Angel
Open Your Heart
Borderline
Holiday
4 Minutes
Love Profusion/Miles Away
Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
Ray Of Light
Impressive Instant
Music
La Isla Bonita
Give It 2 Me
Heartbeat
Into the Groove/Jump
She's Not Me
Dance 2night
Spanish Lesson
You Must Love Me
Buenos Aires
My Name's Not Susan
Secret
Hung Up
Ring My Bell-Anita Ward cover
Who's That Girl
Everybody
Dress You Up


I THINK THAT'S ALL AND IT'S A HELL OF A LOT SO SOME WILL BE DEFINITELY DROPPED OR MASHED-UP.
I guess we just have to wait and see what else will transpire. It's all still subject to change.

"Everybody" and "Deeper and Deeper" were rehearsed for Confessions and didn't make it so we'll see what happens.

But they say that every album is being represented except 'Like A Prayer', so I really wanna see "Hollywood", "Die Another Day", or "Nothing Fails" from American Life. "Love Profusion" is said to be mixed in with "Miles Away", but who knows for sure. This one of the best albums and was completely ignored on Confessions.

ELECTIONS ARE AROUND THE CORNER FOR THE U.S. LEG AND I GOT A FEELING THAT THERE'LL BE SOME BIG POLITICAL ASPECTS THROWN IN FOR US.
RIT - Military theme/intense American Life performance, Confessions - Sorry Remix/"...and you can suck George Bush's DICK!!!" in ILNY.

Anybody got that hunch too??? It's an album with power, good messages and one that adds to current happenings of society. Some stuff from it will fit well.
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Reply #279 posted 07/06/08 5:25am

graecophilos

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soul4thought said:

graecophilos said:



yeah, Spanish Lesson is typical Pharrell but what sounds like him is Heartbeat. Have you ever listened to Kelis' albums? Protect My Heart, Flashback and stuff?
I think it's similar. Three chords... it's typical Pharrell and the demo proved the fact Madonna only wrote part of teh lyrics...


Yeah, I love Kelis...she's underrated, especially the first two albums.

I just finished listening to both "Protect My Heart" and "Heartbeat" and you're right: The chord progression in both songs is really similar. Good observation. It's the production itself that's really refreshing for me, though. Even the synth (which he uses A LOT) line is a nice change up. It's different but not a radical change for him.

It's usually when he strays too far away from his formula that the results can get really ugly.

"Heartbeat" hits at just a tad left field but this actually benefits him.

"Give It 2 Me" (which I hated the first couple times I heard it...now I like it a lot) is approaching city limits. I can't imagine him giving this song to ANYONE else. You can tell it was custom made for Madonna but it works and works well.

"Incredible", however, is definitely one of those "Madonna forced this to happen" songs and it's one of the worst things he's ever done.

"She's Not Me" is a strange one to me. Sometimes I can't stand it; other times I don't mind it. It has traces of Pharrell's signature sound but something about it doesn't fit, IMO. I can't place my finger on it. I do think, ultimately, it became another one of those "forced" songs. I know one problem: Madonna herself. That vocal should not have gotten past the recording studio.

The most typical Pharell productions are "Spanish Lesson", "Beat Goes On" and "Candy Shop" in that order.



You're right with the last three one, but I'd still add Heartbeat to that list. For me, it's a typical PW pop production.

well, I think GI2M and SNM were really written by both of them, not just a demo by PW.

It's interesting to imagine how a song could progress.PW gave her teh demo for Ring My Bell (just like he did with Hearbeat and Spanish Lesson). I don't know whether or not it allready had it's title, but it was named after the famous Anita Ward song!

Well, probably Madonna loved that song so much she told PW to write some music and use the two-chord progression from Ward's Ring My Bell. (they're C#m and F#m on She's Not Me) ??

Well, I'd really love to have more demos or even better soem other songs PW considered for Madonna. Probably they've used all of them, we know 8 songs!!

Incredible I really like, especially the second part.
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Reply #280 posted 07/07/08 2:02am

pandaman2105

I read this on another forum:


The webmaster of MadonnaTribe has revealed that the Madonna's songs from the set list that haven't been revealed yet, were all released as singles. These include:

Another big hit
A song from "Erotica" (video interlude)
A song from "American Life" (video interlude)
Another video interlude based on a single, à la the Sorry Remix on CT

+ a folk song (not an original Madonna song, as far as I understand it)



I'm wondering if "Erotica" might be one of the interludes. We heard it on Confessions, but I think the original would fit an interlude pretty well. "Deeper and Deeper" would definitely be better performed.

I SO HOPE THAT "Hollywood" isn't used as an interlude again because that song hasn't been done on a tour properly. It should get a little showcasing with the vocals and Madonna herself.
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Reply #281 posted 07/07/08 5:54am

SoulAlive

^^Using that information,this is what the setlist may look like:

Candy Shop
Beat Goes On
Human Nature
Borderline
Vogue (this is that "other big hit" that Madonnatribe mentioned)

Video Interlude #1 (I'm guessing it will be "Die Another Day" from American Life)

Into The Groove
Heartbeat
Music
She's Not Me

Video Interlude #2 (I'm guessing it will be "Rain" from Erotica)

Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
the folk song (a classic song from the 60s or early 70s)
Miles Away
Spanish Lesson
La Isla Bonita
You Must Love Me

Video Interlude #3 (I'm guessing it will be a remixed "Open Your Heart")

4 Minutes
Impressive Instant
Ray Of Light
Hung Up
Give It To Me
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Reply #282 posted 07/07/08 7:13am

LiveToTell86

The 3rd interlude will not be a standalone song, it's just an introduction. I guess it's "4 Minutes" then? Though "Die Another Day" would fit perfectly between "You Must Love Me" & "4 Minutes"...

I'm pretty satisfied with the setlist, the Britney thing promises to be a cool reinvention. My only concern is "Ray Of Light", hopefully it's not the same performance as CT/Live Earth.
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Reply #283 posted 07/07/08 7:41am

Matronik

No songs from the I'm Breathless LP?

This bitch is getting worse and worse!!!
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Reply #284 posted 07/07/08 10:46am

pandaman2105

SoulAlive said:

^^Using that information,this is what the setlist may look like:

Candy Shop
Beat Goes On
Human Nature
Borderline
Vogue (this is that "other big hit" that Madonnatribe mentioned)

Video Interlude #1 (I'm guessing it will be "Die Another Day" from American Life)

Into The Groove
Heartbeat
Music
She's Not Me

Video Interlude #2 (I'm guessing it will be "Rain" from Erotica)

Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
the folk song (a classic song from the 60s or early 70s)
Miles Away
Spanish Lesson
La Isla Bonita
You Must Love Me

Video Interlude #3 (I'm guessing it will be a remixed "Open Your Heart")

4 Minutes
Impressive Instant
Ray Of Light
Hung Up
Give It To Me



They also mentioned "Secret" as a part of the
Bollywood section too. "La Isla Bonita" is supposedly the last song of that section.
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Reply #285 posted 07/07/08 12:59pm

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I can't wait for it, i mean, it's just over a month!!
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Reply #286 posted 07/07/08 1:15pm

LiveToTell86

Matronik said:

No songs from the I'm Breathless LP?

This bitch is getting worse and worse!!!


There's "Vogue". The other songs are quite one-dimensional. Except "Something To Remember", that is.

pandaman2105 said:


They also mentioned "Secret" as a part of the
Bollywood section too. "La Isla Bonita" is supposedly the last song of that section.


That was posted on another website but was denied by MTribe. There's no "Secret".
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Reply #287 posted 07/07/08 1:18pm

LiveToTell86

The Britney video is official:

Britney To Join Madonna’s World Tour In Video

The last time Madonna and Britney Spears shared a stage together, the pop stars locked lips at the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards in a kiss that shocked and delighted their fans.

But now, Access Hollywood has learned the music powerhouses will once again share the stage in Madonna’s upcoming “Sticky & Sweet” world tour-- though not exactly live.

Despite rumors that Brit would join Madge onstage, the blonde duo will appear together, but only through a taped video performance, Access has confirmed.

“Britney’s doing a video piece this week for Madonna’s new tour,” Brit’s manager, Larry Rudolph, told Access.

The duo filmed a portion of the video Sunday that will be used during the concert, a rep for Madonna said.

“Britney shot some footage with Madonna yesterday that will be used during Madonna’s upcoming tour,” the Material Mom’s rep, Liz Rosenberg, confirmed to Access.

As for a surprise appearance by Brit on stage alongside Madonna, fans should not hold their breath, according the rep.

“I do not believe that Britney will be appearing live on the tour,” she added.

Madonna’s “Sticky & Sweet,” with Britney on video, kicks off October 4 in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
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Reply #288 posted 07/07/08 1:27pm

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Really, this latest setlist just reinforces what I've felt throughout this entire era: Madonna is just completely detached from her fans. If she really thinks that she's going to continue to justify these steep ticket prices, she's eventually going to have to play more of the hits that fans want to hear. By touring every 2 years, and only playing a few of her greatest hits, I think she's sort of cheapening the brand. I certainly won't spend upwards of $300 to hear her sing 90% of her new CD, Ray of Light, La Isla Bonita, and Music for the nth times, and a few "golden oldies" from her last 3 or 4 records. I understand that she wants to continue to evolve and is conscious of not turning into a Stones-type nostalgia act, but her contempt for her back catalog is absurd. It's not even like Hard Candy is full of "deep" or "artistic" songs and she doesn't want to sing fun music anymore. Almost the entire CD is full of songs about dancing and music. I fail to see why she can't include a few more of her workhorses in there.

I would die if she did "Angel", "Borderline", "Who's That Girl" and "Open Your Heart" in the setlist. It would make her inclusion of other songs more tolerable. shrug

Anyway, just my twocents
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Reply #289 posted 07/07/08 1:35pm

Matronik

LiveToTell86 said:

Matronik said:

No songs from the I'm Breathless LP?

This bitch is getting worse and worse!!!


There's "Vogue". The other songs are quite one-dimensional. Except "Something To Remember", that is.

pandaman2105 said:


They also mentioned "Secret" as a part of the
Bollywood section too. "La Isla Bonita" is supposedly the last song of that section.


That was posted on another website but was denied by MTribe. There's no "Secret".


I'm Breathless is a remarkable album. Simply brilliant
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Reply #290 posted 07/07/08 1:41pm

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Axchi696 said:

Really, this latest setlist just reinforces what I've felt throughout this entire era: Madonna is just completely detached from her fans. If she really thinks that she's going to continue to justify these steep ticket prices, she's eventually going to have to play more of the hits that fans want to hear. By touring every 2 years, and only playing a few of her greatest hits, I think she's sort of cheapening the brand. I certainly won't spend upwards of $300 to hear her sing 90% of her new CD, Ray of Light, La Isla Bonita, and Music for the nth times, and a few "golden oldies" from her last 3 or 4 records. I understand that she wants to continue to evolve and is conscious of not turning into a Stones-type nostalgia act, but her contempt for her back catalog is absurd. It's not even like Hard Candy is full of "deep" or "artistic" songs and she doesn't want to sing fun music anymore. Almost the entire CD is full of songs about dancing and music. I fail to see why she can't include a few more of her workhorses in there.

I would die if she did "Angel", "Borderline", "Who's That Girl" and "Open Your Heart" in the setlist. It would make her inclusion of other songs more tolerable. shrug

Anyway, just my twocents


She is actually doing Borderline. She is also doing Vogue, one of her best known and loved songs from the past.
I don't like this setlist, but Madonna is determined not to be an oldies artist and keep creating new music. I think that should be encouraged. I don't think she's obligated to give her fans what they want. Even when she hasn't played the songs I most want to hear, she always puts on a great theatrical show that I enjoy.
I think it actual cheapens the brand of an artist more when they just play all their older hits for the money and don't write any new songs.
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Reply #291 posted 07/07/08 3:54pm

SoulAlive

My guess is that she's saving all of her major hits for the inevitable "farewll tour" that she will do someday.That's why she never performs "Take A Bow" on her tours,even though it was her most successful hit single.She's saving it for the final tour.I don't think she's reached that point yet.For now,she wants to continue to grow and evolve....focusing on the new music.In ten years,she'll become like Cher and The Rolling Stones,focusing only on the oldies.
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Reply #292 posted 07/08/08 12:17am

SoulAlive

found this on a fansite message board....

will Secret be performed?

Here's the latest update on the S&S tour:

1) "Secret" (for now) is included in the (probation) setlist.It's gonna be a new mix.Madonna has asked a remixer to try to incorporate Secret with "Selfish" (that pop mix/dance mix version) by The Other Two,and also try to mix Secret with Robert Miles' "One and One".I guess the outcome will be a new dance mix of Secret with a killer instrumental hook! The new mix is expected to be in Madonna's hand later this week.

2)"The Devil Wouldn't Recognize You" will be very Hamutsun Serve/animation dance inspired.

3)There's a plan to release an album with selected songs from the tour in a combo with the DVD.

hmmm
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Reply #293 posted 07/08/08 12:22am

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Axchi696 said:

Really, this latest setlist just reinforces what I've felt throughout this entire era: Madonna is just completely detached from her fans. If she really thinks that she's going to continue to justify these steep ticket prices, she's eventually going to have to play more of the hits that fans want to hear. By touring every 2 years, and only playing a few of her greatest hits, I think she's sort of cheapening the brand. I certainly won't spend upwards of $300 to hear her sing 90% of her new CD, Ray of Light, La Isla Bonita, and Music for the nth times, and a few "golden oldies" from her last 3 or 4 records. I understand that she wants to continue to evolve and is conscious of not turning into a Stones-type nostalgia act, but her contempt for her back catalog is absurd. It's not even like Hard Candy is full of "deep" or "artistic" songs and she doesn't want to sing fun music anymore. Almost the entire CD is full of songs about dancing and music. I fail to see why she can't include a few more of her workhorses in there.

I would die if she did "Angel", "Borderline", "Who's That Girl" and "Open Your Heart" in the setlist. It would make her inclusion of other songs more tolerable. shrug

Anyway, just my twocents



as long as we don't know the real setlist I wouldn't complain. But you're right HC is supposed to be as fun as the first album and it would have fitted great if she'd included songs like Angel, Holiday, Borderline, Open Your Heart...
But personally I love HC and am glad she does so many songs from it. Also I resepct the fact she doesn't always perform the same songs. And honestly, I didn't like most of the re-invented versions from 2004...
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Reply #294 posted 07/08/08 1:03am

pandaman2105

LiveToTell86 said:

Matronik said:

No songs from the I'm Breathless LP?

This bitch is getting worse and worse!!!


There's "Vogue". The other songs are quite one-dimensional. Except "Something To Remember", that is.

pandaman2105 said:


They also mentioned "Secret" as a part of the
Bollywood section too. "La Isla Bonita" is supposedly the last song of that section.


That was posted on another website but was denied by MTribe. There's no "Secret".



Are you sure???
It was listed in one of the MTribe rehearsal information postings on here. I'm pretty sure
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Reply #295 posted 07/08/08 2:02am

SoulAlive

pandaman2105 said:

LiveToTell86 said:



That was posted on another website but was denied by MTribe. There's no "Secret".



Are you sure???
It was listed in one of the MTribe rehearsal information postings on here. I'm pretty sure


There's alot of conflicting,ever-changing information being reported on these fansites lol Take it all with a grain of salt.Next month,we will know for sure what the setlist will look like.The tour kicks off on August 23!
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Reply #296 posted 07/08/08 3:24am

LiveToTell86

pandaman2105 said:

LiveToTell86 said:



That was posted on another website but was denied by MTribe. There's no "Secret".



Are you sure???
It was listed in one of the MTribe rehearsal information postings on here. I'm pretty sure


I am sure, it was explicitly denied by MTribe, along with "Angel", "Express Yourself" and "Buenos Aires".
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Reply #297 posted 07/08/08 6:40am

SoulAlive

Matronik said:

No songs from the I'm Breathless LP?

This bitch is getting worse and worse!!!


She's doing "Vogue" lol I like that album alot but I don't really need to hear anything else from it,at least not this time around.
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Reply #298 posted 07/08/08 6:47am

SoulAlive

LiveToTell86 said:

The 3rd interlude will not be a standalone song, it's just an introduction. I guess it's "4 Minutes" then? Though "Die Another Day" would fit perfectly between "You Must Love Me" & "4 Minutes"...


hmmm I hadn't even thought of that! That's a good idea...."Die Another Day" leading into "4 Minutes".That'll work perfectly.


I'm pretty satisfied with the setlist, the Britney thing promises to be a cool reinvention. My only concern is "Ray Of Light", hopefully it's not the same performance as CT/Live Earth.


I like the setlist for the most part,but I'm still hoping that she adds at least two more classic songs ("Like A Prayer" and "Secret" would be fine).That'll make it complete,imo.
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Reply #299 posted 07/09/08 9:37am

CrozzaUK

Latest from Madonnatribe:

Since our previous exclusive report about the Human Nature/Gimme More mash up to be performed during the Sticky & Sweet tour a few things have changed.

The song, which is the third one in the set list, will still feature Britney on screens but has gone back to a more classic version of Madonna's Human Nature with just a few insert of Britney saying "It's Britney Bitch" along the way.

As you may remember we also reported that there are going to be more surprises in the set list. One more HUGE hit of Madonna's career is back and it's a fan favourite too. Vogue from the 1990 album "I'm Breathless" is indeed the fourth song in the show, coming after Human Nature and closes the first set of the show. Vogue is to be performed with a remarkable new arrangement containing samples and elements from 4 Minutes and Nelly Furtado's Promiscuos Girl. The people who apparently heard it say it's a great version.

We also previously reported that the First Album song Bordeline was part of the set. We can now add it comes in the second segment, after Heartbeat while Spanish Lesson now comes before Miles Away and not after.

To summarize it a bit here's a look at how things looks like right now!

Candy Shop
Beat Goes On
Human Nature
Vogue

Video Interlude
Into The Groove
Heartbeat
Borderline
She's Not Me
Music

Video Interlude
Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
Spanish Lesson
Miles Away
La Isla Bonita
You Must Love Me

Video Interlude
4 Minutes
Impressive Instant
Ray Of Light
Hung Up
Give It To Me


Well it looks like the setlist is a stayer. The first 2 segments are great - the last two are meh!. The finale looks shit. I may orgasm in the second segment though!
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