LOL!

Usher's "big hit" In The Club is apparently just 2 preset loops from the Garageband software that anybody can buy in the shops.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VHvnpoVTGY

http://www.youtube.com/wa...LHLOr6Tcs4

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EX6muGk4rU

http://www.youtube.com/wa...j3lMXHrPlo

Apparently this constitutes "Great producing".

Well now we know what talent Usher and his "producer" really has!!

i can see the point people are trying to make but i can't help agree
somewhat with this youtube comment by someone called Seal07:


[...] who cares what he used. It's a hot song and it sold records,
I doubt anybody would say anything negative about the song if it
was made on a yamaha keyboard or something. But the fact that he
potentially got his sounds from garageband, everybody wants 2 talk
down on that. It's not what you use it's how you use it. You can
have millions of dollars worth of equipment and still sound like
shit if you don't know what your doing

it sounded cheap to me , this explains why. anyhow i dont care about how his music is made , todays music is going downhill anyway

The thing with "producing" that no one gets is the difference of say the 60's-80's to today. Take an Arif Mardin who worked with everyone from Hall and Oates,Norah Jones,the Bee Gees, and Chaka to name a few, and I defy ANYONE that can see anything similar in those artists sounds that Arif produced. Then take George Martin, George made the best out of what was available during those days, he did things with technology back then that people cant do today with everything available to them. And there in lies the difference in the times, doing the MOST with nothing, which was then theory back then, and NOW its doing nothing with having everything available, no one differs in these times at all, despite having all this shit at their hands.

I am so glad I grew up in the '70's...

I always suspected it was sampled, that background was too nice to solely be usher's

It's not surprising because the song sounds like he used garbageband
and move mountains sounds ridiculously worse. And this is what is
supposedly hot today.

I'd never use presets like that!

dirtyman2005 said:

WHICH producer? Usher has had lots of producers. It sounds like you tried to transfer the hate over to Usher.
I'm not a fan of any of that pre-programmed bullshit. All I know is this - Polow has dropped a few nice tracks in the past, so I'm not hating on him completely. Usher's track record as a singer/performer is pretty solid. If he (Polow) used software to make a track, all that means is he used technology. I don't think its very creative to use presets but at the same time, people have been using computers to make music for years now. Its no need to act surprised about it. If he used Garageband presets, then I'd call him the "smart one" because he's the one that probably got 5 or 6 figures for the track. These cats are just trying to get paid. Pop producers aren't trying to change things for the most part. They get paid to make hits, not break ground.
It just re-enforces what I have said in the past on the subject - if people don't demand better, producers and the industry will keep feeding them shit and calling it music.
Now more people are going to think they can do it. That's not happening. I've seen the "T-Pain exposed" vids, too. Here's the thing that people have to understand. Its all about position. Polow, T-Pain, Timbaland and all of these other producers are in the position where they CAN do bullshit and get paid for it. If you're at home, have never produced and been paid for a song before and have no track record - what you do is going to be called "bullshit" and "wack" by people until you get put on by somebody in the industry. Once you're hot, everything you do gets attention. Polow is hot right now. he could have done it on garageband on youtube himself right in front of the world and it would have still sold. Does that make it right? Hell no. Its just the way the business is these days.
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ooh, so innovative.

I think most of these YUTB hit videos aimed at Usher, Polow and Tim are more about the lipschitz who make them than some " serious thief " exposure, as Blaque has so eloquently stated, if it was so easy to do, everyone would be a rich music producer. No matter how many times these videos are viewed and commented on, Usher & Co. continue to get paid and stay famous, while Joey Shorts and Co. are posing for their webcams.

No big surprise - not alot of innovation around these days

The biggest shock is that there are guys like the one who made the youtube video, and how they're so let down because they thought the track was "so dope"

And honestly, it's not that big a deal. There is still a song written over the beat. How many guitar players have played the same three chords and written great tracks over it?

Who knows? The song is about being in a club. Maybe it's intentionally going after a generic "club sound?" (though honestly I think the producer was probably being lazy ) I've heard people like Beck use Casio beats as a joke.

But most of all, it's no different from sampling! People who accept sampling should accept this, too.