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Thread started 05/01/08 11:17am

BlaqueKnight

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Anybody else find Madonna's 4 Minutes video creepy?

After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me. I know Justin is grown and all but Madonna kinda looked like she would be his mom. Even though they weren't grinding all on each other or anything, the whole video had a predatory feel to it.
I know there are some hardcore Madonna fans on here but I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not saying Madonna looked old or anything. In fact, she doesn't. (She don't look young, either) But, the way she moves and dances is so different (in time periods) from Justin, he looks like a young dude dancing with an older woman when they are dancing together. Her style is very "then" and his is very "now". Its like watching someone krumping dancing with someone doing the cabbage patch. It just doesn't match.
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/08 11:24am

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I made out with an older woman just last week.
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/08 11:26am

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BlaqueKnight said:

After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me. I know Justin is grown and all but Madonna kinda looked like she would be his mom. Even though they weren't grinding all on each other or anything, the whole video had a predatory feel to it.
I know there are some hardcore Madonna fans on here but I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not saying Madonna looked old or anything. In fact, she doesn't. (She don't look young, either) But, the way she moves and dances is so different (in time periods) from Justin, he looks like a young dude dancing with an older woman when they are dancing together. Her style is very "then" and his is very "now". Its like watching someone krumping dancing with someone doing the cabbage patch. It just doesn't match.

falloff Good assessment.
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/08 11:40am

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I don't know about creepy, but I think the video is awful. The song sucks too. I don't understand why people love her or the new video so much. I don't dislike her, but I don't see the huge appeal she has. She is starting to look very scary too. She's had work done on her face and you can definitely tell. She's hooked up with JT because of his popularity. She knows who to use to her advantage.
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/08 11:43am

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BlaqueKnight said:

After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me. I know Justin is grown and all but Madonna kinda looked like she would be his mom. Even though they weren't grinding all on each other or anything, the whole video had a predatory feel to it.
I know there are some hardcore Madonna fans on here but I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not saying Madonna looked old or anything. In fact, she doesn't. (She don't look young, either) But, the way she moves and dances is so different (in time periods) from Justin, he looks like a young dude dancing with an older woman when they are dancing together. Her style is very "then" and his is very "now". Its like watching someone krumping dancing with someone doing the cabbage patch. It just doesn't match.

You're being kind. It's not that Madonna's style is from a different time period. It's that Madonna herself is from a different time period. She dances like a stiff middle aged woman. Maybe you don't want to be accused of ageism, but it's not ageist to point out that younger people move more easily than old people. It's just a fact of nature. Time goes by and joints get stiff, bones start to creak, etc. The problem is no one told Madonna this so she ends up embarrassing herself with her lame dancing.

It's not just the dancing either. Her voice is sounding older too. Justin is taking her to the cleaners on that track. Totally outshining her. Her voice has become bland and lifeless. It doesn't fit Timberland's fresh and energised production at all. Also she's singing lyrics on her album about her "booty". Even the biggest Madonna fans would have to admit how sad that is. She's turning into a Baby Jane figure, except that, unlike Baby Jane, she's still popular. Go figure.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/08 11:46am

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video was badly directly, badly scripted, horribly acted and danced
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/08 1:50pm

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I don't know about creepy, but I think the video is awful. The song sucks too. I don't understand why people love her or the new video so much. I don't dislike her, but I don't see the huge appeal she has. She is starting to look very scary too. She's had work done on her face and you can definitely tell. She's hooked up with JT because of his popularity. She knows who to use to her advantage.



what exactly has she had done to her face? has she gone under the knife? i can't work it out.

the age difference between JT and Madge doesn't bother me at all and I think she dances well next to him too. i find the parts where you can see the inside of people's faces creepy. does anyone know the significance behind that?
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/08 2:35pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

[b]After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me. I know Justin is grown and all but Madonna kinda looked like she would be his mom. Even though they weren't grinding all on each other or anything, the whole video had a predatory feel to it.
I know there are some hardcore Madonna fans on here but I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not saying Madonna looked old or anything. In fact, she doesn't. (She don't look young, either) But, the way she moves and dances is so different (in time periods) from Justin, he looks like a young dude dancing with an older woman when they are dancing together. Her style is very "then" and his is very "now". Its like watching someone krumping dancing with someone doing the cabbage patch. It just doesn't match.[/b]


Good point. But instead of Mary Kay Letourneau, I would say more like Lea Walker!

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Reply #8 posted 05/01/08 2:41pm

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midnightmover said:

BlaqueKnight said:

After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me. I know Justin is grown and all but Madonna kinda looked like she would be his mom. Even though they weren't grinding all on each other or anything, the whole video had a predatory feel to it.
I know there are some hardcore Madonna fans on here but I'm just expressing my opinion. I'm not saying Madonna looked old or anything. In fact, she doesn't. (She don't look young, either) But, the way she moves and dances is so different (in time periods) from Justin, he looks like a young dude dancing with an older woman when they are dancing together. Her style is very "then" and his is very "now". Its like watching someone krumping dancing with someone doing the cabbage patch. It just doesn't match.

You're being kind. It's not that Madonna's style is from a different time period. It's that Madonna herself is from a different time period. She dances like a stiff middle aged woman. Maybe you don't want to be accused of ageism, but it's not ageist to point out that younger people move more easily than old people. It's just a fact of nature. Time goes by and joints get stiff, bones start to creak, etc. The problem is no one told Madonna this so she ends up embarrassing herself with her lame dancing.

It's not just the dancing either. Her voice is sounding older too. Justin is taking her to the cleaners on that track. Totally outshining her. Her voice has become bland and lifeless. It doesn't fit Timberland's fresh and energised production at all. Also she's singing lyrics on her album about her "booty". Even the biggest Madonna fans would have to admit how sad that is. She's turning into a Baby Jane figure, except that, unlike Baby Jane, she's still popular. Go figure.
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These days, having a crush on older women in MILF status is very normal. And I believe Madonna is playing off of that knowledge for all its worth.
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/08 2:55pm

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I found it creepy, but not because of the age difference

I was creeped out by those special effects! eek
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/08 4:18pm

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Well, I'm Justin's age, and Madonna is my stepmom's age. So yeah I don't find it completely appropriate.
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/08 7:13pm

purplesweat

What happened to suspension of disbelief?

Both JT and Madonna are off the market and dancing is a very obviously phisycal experience so of course there's going to be some degree of sexual "tension".

The Madonna/Britney video is creepier. How in the world was that idea pitched to Britney?

"Alright so we want you to get stalked by Madge and make sure you allude to lesbianism the whole way through then at the end try to kiss someone from the team you don't remotely bat for and is old enough to be your mother...you ok with that?"

Although they probably force fed her some "two spirits combining!" crapola.

I certainly didn't get a "predatory" feel from the 4 minutes video though, I actually liked the way they seemed equal in the way they danced and moved around (she was always at his level, never dancing for him or trying to tantalise him like most of the bimbos in his videos).

And yes, JT is almost 27 so any "cradle snatching" theories go out the window. Again, neither is single.
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purplesweat said:

What happened to suspension of disbelief?

Both JT and Madonna are off the market and dancing is a very obviously phisycal experience so of course there's going to be some degree of sexual "tension".

The Madonna/Britney video is creepier. How in the world was that idea pitched to Britney?

"Alright so we want you to get stalked by Madge and make sure you allude to lesbianism the whole way through then at the end try to kiss someone from the team you don't remotely bat for and is old enough to be your mother...you ok with that?"

Although they probably force fed her some "two spirits combining!" crapola.

I certainly didn't get a "predatory" feel from the 4 minutes video though, I actually liked the way they seemed equal in the way they danced and moved around (she was always at his level, never dancing for him or trying to tantalise him like most of the bimbos in his videos).

And yes, JT is almost 27 so any "cradle snatching" theories go out the window. Again, neither is single.


Madonna is married. Justin isn't.
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/08 7:33pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

After watching Madonna's new video with Justin Timberlake, I have to say that she came off a little Mary K. Letourneau to me.

hmmm Interesting assessment. Perhaps JT has some more things to learn from Madge. Of course, its no secret that he's stolen his vocal sound, moves, and production style from other artists.
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/08 9:07pm

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TonyVanDam said:

purplesweat said:

What happened to suspension of disbelief?

Both JT and Madonna are off the market and dancing is a very obviously phisycal experience so of course there's going to be some degree of sexual "tension".

The Madonna/Britney video is creepier. How in the world was that idea pitched to Britney?

"Alright so we want you to get stalked by Madge and make sure you allude to lesbianism the whole way through then at the end try to kiss someone from the team you don't remotely bat for and is old enough to be your mother...you ok with that?"

Although they probably force fed her some "two spirits combining!" crapola.

I certainly didn't get a "predatory" feel from the 4 minutes video though, I actually liked the way they seemed equal in the way they danced and moved around (she was always at his level, never dancing for him or trying to tantalise him like most of the bimbos in his videos).

And yes, JT is almost 27 so any "cradle snatching" theories go out the window. Again, neither is single.


Madonna is married. Justin isn't.


err

Justin has been dating Jessica Biel for about a year now. rolleyes
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/08 11:19pm

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purplesweat said:

TonyVanDam said:



Madonna is married. Justin isn't.


err

Justin has been dating Jessica Biel for about a year now. rolleyes


nod I know that. But Justin isn't married to Jessica. They're just dating.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm a little bit old-fashioned when it comes to using a word like "single".
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/08 11:42pm

purplesweat

TonyVanDam said:

purplesweat said:



err

Justin has been dating Jessica Biel for about a year now. rolleyes


nod I know that. But Justin isn't married to Jessica. They're just dating.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm a little bit old-fashioned when it comes to using a word like "single".
wink


hmm

I don't get you...

My point is neither would be "hunting" for the other since :

1. It's a music video.

2. They're both in a relationship of some sort.

3. ITS A MUSIC VIDEO.

err
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/08 12:10am

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I'd much prefer Madonna for JT over Cameron Diaz anytime. Grow up, it's 2008 and ur judgmental; it's obviously ageism on ur part that u find it creepy. Madonna is in better shape than many women around JTs age. I actually love when they were mirroring their dance moves especially towards the end. What I did found creepy was the special effects as another poster here noted.
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Reply #18 posted 05/02/08 2:15am

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purplesweat said:

TonyVanDam said:



nod I know that. But Justin isn't married to Jessica. They're just dating.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm a little bit old-fashioned when it comes to using a word like "single".
wink


hmm

I don't get you...

My point is neither would be "hunting" for the other since :

1. It's a music video.

2. They're both in a relationship of some sort.

3. ITS A MUSIC VIDEO.

err

lol

I get your point.
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/08 2:18am

Cinnie

People freaked out when Madonna cast the little boy in "Open Your Heart" sneaking in to see her in a peep show.

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Reply #20 posted 05/02/08 5:53am

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i just find it a boring video and she looks like she is trying to hard to appear young i dunno its just rubbish imo neutral
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Reply #21 posted 05/02/08 7:19am

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purplesweat said:

TonyVanDam said:



nod I know that. But Justin isn't married to Jessica. They're just dating.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm a little bit old-fashioned when it comes to using a word like "single".
wink


hmm

I don't get you...

My point is neither would be "hunting" for the other since :

1. It's a music video.

2. They're both in a relationship of some sort.

3. ITS A MUSIC VIDEO.

err


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Reply #22 posted 05/02/08 8:40am

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I first heard the song/ saw the video a couple of weeks ago.

lol Awful song (Tim, what were you thinking?), much more awful video.
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/08 9:55am

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Them being in relationships didn't even enter my mind when I started the post, so that's not even a factor. This had nothing to do with the real lives of the two of them.
Madonna was not really "keeping up". Her body movements were...for lack of a better word at the moment...dated, and their dancing styles didn't match at all. They didn't "fit" together in my opinion.



Adisa - Timb was think about the MONEY. I can't blame him; I'd have done the track, too. Two marginally talented people deserve a mediocre track.
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/08 9:59am

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I don't know about creepy, but I think the video is awful. The song sucks too. I don't understand why people love her or the new video so much. I don't dislike her, but I don't see the huge appeal she has. She is starting to look very scary too. She's had work done on her face and you can definitely tell. She's hooked up with JT because of his popularity. She knows who to use to her advantage.



what exactly has she had done to her face? has she gone under the knife? i can't work it out.

the age difference between JT and Madge doesn't bother me at all and I think she dances well next to him too. i find the parts where you can see the inside of people's faces creepy. does anyone know the significance behind that?


I don't know what she's done to her face, but it looks as though she's either had a facelift or way too much botox. Either way, she looks scary these days.
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Empress said:

dancerella said:




what exactly has she had done to her face? has she gone under the knife? i can't work it out.

the age difference between JT and Madge doesn't bother me at all and I think she dances well next to him too. i find the parts where you can see the inside of people's faces creepy. does anyone know the significance behind that?


I don't know what she's done to her face, but it looks as though she's either had a facelift or way too much botox. Either way, she looks scary these days.

i think she's had a brow lift and maybe an eye lift and way too much botox.
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/08 10:16am

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ehuffnsd said:

Empress said:



I don't know what she's done to her face, but it looks as though she's either had a facelift or way too much botox. Either way, she looks scary these days.

i think she's had a brow lift and maybe an eye lift and way too much botox.


I know I've said this many times before, but her arms gross me out too.
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/08 10:19am

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BlaqueKnight said:


Two marginally talented people deserve a mediocre track.

True.
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/08 10:57am

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I don't find the video to be creepy, I just wasn't impressed with it and thought the video was all over the place. It didn't make much sense. The dancing was not all that either . I thought both Madonna and JT looked pretty stiff in the video, not too mention the fact that the two have very little chemistry.

Madonna looks amazing in the video though. That's the one bright spot in the video lol.
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The whole video is so boring. I don´t get it.
What I don´t like about that video is that Madonna´s skin-color costume. It looks as if she was naked and even though she does have a fantasitic body for her age, it does not look that nice exposed anymore.
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