And appreciate others' opinions instead of retarded "pissing in the snow" comments. It's an album full of empty and consequetly quite soulless pastiches...definitely a huge step backwards. "Multiply" was MUCH better.

Sdldawn said:

Jamie, is that you?

There's no snow pissing going on here. I just think its an absurd claim to make. I didn't say his CD was trash. As a matter of fact, I said that its not poorly done. Its just outrageous to make that claim when Marcus Miller's "Marcus" CD dropped this year. There ain't NOTHING on Jamie's CD that's even close to being as funky as M. Miller's. What's the funkiest song on Jamie's CD? "Figured Me Out". He's trying to do Funkadelic "lite". Most of it is late 60s early 70s rehash and Jamie doesn't have a "soulful" voice. He ditched his biggest asset, originality, to do what? Music that's been done previously and done better by others.
Don't talk to me about soul until you've heard Anthony David's "Acey Duecy".

Don't worry Jamie. If you wish really, really, really hard...
Maybe you'll be a soul man.....one day.

BlaqueKnight said:

alright.. now you're just being crazy man!

BlaqueKnight said:

I hear you but is it fair to compare Jamie to such an established artist with a history as rich as Marcus Miller? I don't know if Jim is the funkiest or most soulful album of the year thus far, but do I think it is a decent effort, better than most newer contemporary material as of late. Maybe Jim is the kind of album that should be judged on its own terms for what it is worth in order to be appreciated.

Meloh9 said:

Its hard to judge a record on its own when every few seconds you hear something that came from another song that was hot 30 years ago. This record is unoriginal. I DON'T think its a decent effort. I think its lazy rehash. I give "Multiply" much props because it was original and solidified Jamie's identity, which is usually hard to do these days in one record. This time around, that's not the case. He sounds like a cover band singer on this record. I've been hearing a lot of good stuff lately and while this is not a badly made record, its no "masterpiece" and when somebody says its the "most soulful" and "funkiest" then yeah, that opens it up to comparison with every other artist that drops one in 2K8, including Marcus, Anthony David, Dwelé, Al Green, Mint Condition, and anybody else. When you have to start qualifying shit (This is the funkiest most soulful second record release from an artist in the first quarter this year who does pop funk but is not on the pop charts and is not a jazz artist...blah, blah, blah then somethings obviously lacking. I expected a better record from dude because what I heard on his first record made me think he was capable of more. Now I'm not so sure.

NWF said:

is it anything like Jamiroquai? If so,I'd be interested.

Unfortunately I have to say that Jamie Lidell isn't half as exciting as he used to be. I think 'Jim' is a stronger and more enjoyable listen than 'Multiply' but he's becoming to moderate and mainstream. His live shows are becoming less interesting too. I remember seeing him at the Sonar Festival back in 2003 and thought he was amazing. He layered and beatboxed and just found tunes from out of nowhere. I remember a particular highlight when he beatboxed, recorded it and sang Prince's 'Forever in my life' over the top of it. On more recent occasions when I've seen him, it's more a combination of soul numbers and the odd borish beatboxing vibe. If only we could roll back the hands of time.

His band are useless, as well. I prefer him solo live.

BlaqueKnight said:

point taken when you break it down like that. I still think it is decent, I guess I look at it as "well made" = 'decent' but everybody does not think in the same terms so I understand. I must admit there was a song where the bass line reminded me of If You Want Me To Stay, or that sounds like where he may have been trying to go with it. I think its hard not to rehash the past, the key is where you go with it and if you have enough of your own identity to back it up.

For example I can hear the Albert King bends in a Jimi Hendrix solo, we can all hear the Sly influence in Funkadelic, but Jimi took it some place else, and so did George and the gang, thats not an easy or overnight thing to do.

I can also admit that there is a certain fire on Multiply that 'Jim" is lacking, the later album is more restrained but pop doesn't always mean its bad, and I tried to avoid prince analogy s however P proved you can make a pop record that is still funky and yet make is commercially viable.

But all in all I get your point, you simply just don't agree this is the most soulful compared to other stuff that came out in 08, point taken

BlaqueKnight said:

i was being sarcastic..


now i'm tired

Sdldawn said:

Wow thats impressive when someone does it all themselves. I will definitely keep an eye out for this album. Cheers.